Venezuela under attack

[pipoz4444]

There is a precedent as CNN Politics points out

Maybe not 100% identical but similar in a lot of ways

Either way the Lawyers will feast, well

https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/04/poli ... gal-battle

“Federal courts held that the manner in which a defendant is brought before a US court—even by force, even from foreign soil—does not defeat criminal jurisdiction,”

[Kenr6583]

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Okay, that's pretty f___ing funny, and at the same time so true. During his last campaign the POTUS stated that the U.S. would keep out of foreign conflicts and prioritize domestic issues, yet he has bombed 7 countries, invaded one of those counties and kidnapped their President and his wife, and then took control of that country. All of this was done in less than a year into his second term. Make America Great Again? America First? LOL.

Now he is talking about targeting Cuba, Columbia, Mexico, and of course Greenland.

If the current administration is truly concerned about autocrats then when is N. Korea going to be bombed and their government overthrown? Russia? China? Saudi Arabia? My guess is never.

And I am probably speaking a little early on this but I haven't heard of one single U.S. oil company talking about investing billions into Venezuela to fix its oil infrastructure and I doubt any will be willing to go in unless it comes at U.S. taxpayers expense.

[Mosquito]

Kenr6583
"And I am probably speaking a little early on this but I haven't heard of one single U.S. oil company talking about investing billions into Venezuela to fix its oil infrastructure and I doubt any will be willing to go in unless it comes at U.S. taxpayers expense."

Expect US oil companies are eagar to get back into Venezuela, but you're right they'll need taxpayer's subsidies (and a lot of it) and some major security guarantees from the Venezuelan govt.

Situation is promising for both China and Saudi Arabia (Saudi specifically, as they already have a strong foothold in US oil). Wouldn't be surprised if they jumped in to funded / fix Venezuelan's oil infrastructure.

If I was Rodriguez, I'd be in direct talks with Saudi Arabia on a deal. Two birds with one stone, deal with Saudi Arabia would get Trump off your back (as Saudi has already bought Trump) and they are less likely (less then China) to back stab you.

[Doodoo]

Status of foreign oil companies in Venezuela
https://money.usnews.com/investing/news ... os-capture

[tamada]

More insights on the event.

https://www.asiasentinel.com/p/maduro-a ... anal-plans

[Kenr6583]

More insights on the event.

https://www.asiasentinel.com/p/maduro-a ... anal-plans

The Monroe Doctrine? LOL. The Monroe Doctrine is nothing more than a mission statement, it's one's belief, an ideology, and it only addressed European nations, nothing about the Middle Eastern or Asian nations. it was meant to address any future European colonization of the Americas and for them not to meddle in the political affairs in the Americas. It also stated that the U.S. would not meddle in the political affairs of European nations, but we all know that hasn’t stopped them.

[Stantheman]

More insights on the event.

https://www.asiasentinel.com/p/maduro-a ... anal-plans

The Monroe Doctrine? LOL. The Monroe Doctrine is nothing more than a mission statement, it's one's belief, an ideology, and it only addressed European nations, nothing about the Middle Eastern or Asian nations. it was meant to address any future European colonization of the Americas and for them not to meddle in the political affairs in the Americas. It also stated that the U.S. would not meddle in the political affairs of European nations, but we all know that hasn’t stopped them.

There's a new Doctrine coming from the horses mouth, it's the Don-Roe Doctrine. One of it's main objectives is to try and divert attention from Epstein files(which isn't happening yet).

[Kenr6583]

"Greenland should be part of the United States.

The real question is, by what right does Denmark assert control over Greenland? What is the basis of their territorial claim?"

"Nobody's gonna fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland."

These are quotes by White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller during a recent interview.

So the Unites States invades a country 1/12 its size that has very little military power and now think they can take on everyone at one time? Anyone within the White House who thinks invading Greenland won't start WWIII is delusional. Hell, the rest of NATO might even get some help from the likes of China, Iran, Russia, and N. Korea to go up against the United States if it were to happen. These people are sick and obviously don't think before they speak.

And BTW, Greenland became a Danish colony in 1721 and became a country within Denmark in 1953. In 1979 Greenlanders were given control over domestic affairs. The only area where Greenlanders do not have control over is foreign and security policies.

[FrazeeDK]

well, the Greenlanders will have the final say won't they? Perhaps Trump is playing the carrot and the stick. Stupid in my mind when he should be offering an independent Greenland, when they decide to do that, a Compact of Free Association much like the three Pacific Nations who enjoy a dollar economy, US subsidies, free entry and work permission to the US for all of their citizens and a US Defense Umbrella.. I think that's where it will eventually go..

As for that maniac Stephen Miller, he's just an attack dog...

[Doodoo]

Ken in regard to your query

By what right does Denmark assert control over Greenland? perhaps this may offer some information

Right to self-governance
Denmark asserts control over Greenland through a long-standing historical and constitutional basis. Greenland has been associated with Denmark since 986, and it fell under full Danish control in 1814. While Greenland was a Danish colony until 1953, it has since enjoyed significant autonomy, including the right to self-governance, as established in a 2009 agreement. This autonomy allows Greenland to manage its domestic policies while remaining part of the Kingdom of Denmark. Recent discussions, particularly regarding U.S. national security interests, have raised questions about Denmark's control, but the Danish government has firmly stated that the U.S. does not have the right to annex Greenland, emphasizing the island's sovereignty and territorial integrity.
Newsweek
+5

[Kenr6583]

I don't think anyone on here knows what the people of Greenland would want or what would be best for them, unless of course they are from Greenland. Even if the people of Greenland were to have a say on whether to leave Denmark and be part of the U.S. in some capacity or not, which they don't, and if you trust the latest polling, 6% of Greenlander's state they would be willing to join the U.S. while 85% stated they wouldn't, so it's a mute point anyway.

[tamada]

well, the Greenlanders will have the final say won't they? Perhaps Trump is playing the carrot and the stick. Stupid in my mind when he should be offering an independent Greenland, when they decide to do that, a Compact of Free Association much like the three Pacific Nations who enjoy a dollar economy, US subsidies, free entry and work permission to the US for all of their citizens and a US Defense Umbrella.. I think that's where it will eventually go..

As for that maniac Stephen Miller, he's just an attack dog...

Becoming party to the Compact of Free Association would be something of a quid pro quo. However, Trump will boorishly insist it be identified as the USA's fifty-second state, use it as evidence of Europe's inevitable demise, fallaciously claim he's the only President ever to increase the size of America...and rename it Costa Rica del Norte.

[mak]

The simple diplomatic solution is Barron Trump marries Princess Isabella of Denmark and Greenland is given to America as dowry payment

[Kenr6583]

It appears the dictator that was kidnapped from Venezuela was replaced with another dictator to take his place.

[pipoz4444]

For all of the Maduro bleeding hearts, who think he was a bit hard done by, because the Trump Admin gave Delta Force an order because to YANK (pun) him out of bed before he could leave for Switzerland, as the Pilots with wifey as Co Pilot, just remember he was a piece if "Sh...t" and his own people who by the way don't love him. No different to guy who previously ran Syria.

It doesn't matter that Trump or Rubio, gave the go ahead to DF to go get him, but unfortunately for some, they let their hatred for Trump and his Admin, cloud any judgement. Simply put, it was time that we went.

Both sides, even the Biden Administration wanted Maduro out/gone, and from the link below (Forbes), 12 months ago the Biden Admin announced they were increasing an existing reward amount (don't know who place the first 15 mill on his head) from 15 Mill at the time to 25 Mill, for Maduro and his side kick citing Narcotic as a reason at the WH press announcement and also stating it to be in line with other steps by Canada and the UK.

You can detest Trump and his Admin as much as you like, that is your prerogative, but it doesn't change the narrative, that Maduro is / was a piece of "Sh...t to his people and some Government admin needed to act.

I am pretty sure the Swiss Bankers will cooperate in Freezing their Vaults for a while and eventually hand what is in them over to a government in Venezuela, when their is one that can be trusted.

Forbes

Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/business/financ ... 026-01-06/

[Kenr6583]

Well if that's the criteria then he needs to get busy, because the likes of Russia, N. Korea, and Saudi Arabia, amongst others, need to be dealt with, so yes, why isn't the U.S government acting? Instead the POTUS is talking about taking over a peaceful sovereign country and NATO ally by force if necessary. And I'm not sympathizing anything that happens to Maduro, but why doesn't he qualify for the same immunity that the POTUS was granted by the Supreme Court? And instead of bragging about how he's in control of Venezuela why doesn't he let the people dictate what happens to them now? Because he's an autocrat/dictator himself.

[Kenr6583]

So, the oil from a Venezuelan oil tanker that was seized by the U.S. has been sold for $500 million. Millions of $'s from those proceeds are going to a bank in Qatar, which the POTUS alone will have complete control over. Interesting.

[tamada]

So, the oil from a Venezuelan oil tanker that was seized by the U.S. has been sold for $500 million. Millions of $'s from those proceeds are going to a bank in Qatar, which the POTUS alone will have complete control over. Interesting.

Is he paying for his post-presidential executive 747? Or is the Air Force still stumping for that (via the US taxpayer).

[Doodoo]

"So, the oil from a Venezuelan oil tanker that was seized by the U.S. has been sold for $500 million."

Sorry but the numbers arent adding up
The biggest oil tanker from Venezuela is a 2,000,000 barrel ship and at $60 that is $120,000,000
Still a lot of mola

But again Trumps figures/statements are usually inflated

8 wars stopped some old than me
25,000 died from fentanyl per boat load of drugs
My people love me
I am the healthiest President ever
I have the best economy ever

[Kenr6583]

"So, the oil from a Venezuelan oil tanker that was seized by the U.S. has been sold for $500 million."

Sorry but the numbers arent adding up
The biggest oil tanker from Venezuela is a 2,000,000 barrel ship and at $60 that is $120,000,000
Still a lot of mola

But again Trumps figures/statements are usually inflated

8 wars stopped some old than me
25,000 died from fentanyl per boat load of drugs
My people love me
I am the healthiest President ever
I have the best economy ever

Yeah, that may be on me. I read several articles and one of them stated it was from a seized oil tanker, but I don’t think that’s the case. The rest of it is factual though.