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[AlexO]

The source is from me reading an article and then relaying it to Udonmap

What are you reading? The Hamas version of the Dandy or the Beano ( British versions of the comic strips in US newspapers)

[Doodoo]

You caught me
Hope this helps

[AlexO]

You caught me
Hope this helps

Good, do yourself a favour and stop quoting Hamas propaganda as fact.
I wonder if the murdered Israeli hostages were included in the civilian deaths in Gaza.

[Mosquito]

Hard to defend either side (Hamas and Israel), also hard to claim Hamas being the initial aggressor....considering all the actions by Israel prior to Oct 7, 2023.

But, if you're on body counts / deaths.....pls consider this!!!

Oct 7th Attack: In total, 1,195 people were killed by the attacks: 736 Israeli civilians (including 38 children), 79 foreign nationals, and 379 members of the security forces.

24 Months Later: Over 20,000 Palestinian child have been killed (IMO, that's low balling it....considering the long-term effects of starvation and unsanitary living conditions),
UNICEF estimates over 64,000 children have reportedly been killed or maimed across the Gaza Strip, including at least 1,000 babies.

Oh, if my numbers are off.....they aren't off by much and again, if anything they are low-ball numbers.

Lastly, if you aren't keying you the number of children killed....You Have Fxxking Issues!!!!

[Doodoo]

Alex something to ponder If I stop you will have nothing to whine about
"Good, do yourself a favour and stop quoting Hamas propaganda as fact."

[AlexO]

Hard to defend either side (Hamas and Israel), also hard to claim Hamas being the initial aggressor....considering all the actions by Israel prior to Oct 7, 2023.

But, if you're on body counts / deaths.....pls consider this!!!

Oct 7th Attack: In total, 1,195 people were killed by the attacks: 736 Israeli civilians (including 38 children), 79 foreign nationals, and 379 members of the security forces.

24 Months Later: Over 20,000 Palestinian child have been killed (IMO, that's low balling it....considering the long-term effects of starvation and unsanitary living conditions),
UNICEF estimates over 64,000 children have reportedly been killed or maimed across the Gaza Strip, including at least 1,000 babies.

Oh, if my numbers are off.....they aren't off by much and again, if anything they are low-ball numbers.

Lastly, if you aren't keying you the number of children killed....You Have Fxxking Issues!!!!

So are you saying that Israel should have stopped after the same number of victims of the 7th October atrocity were killed and then just waited for Hamas to do it again at a later date. Of course non-fighting supporters of Hamas are going to be caught in the cross fire if Hamas 'hide' in built up area's. If you actually believe the claims of starvation, genocide etc then no opposing arguments are going to change your views and the unproven numbers of casualties will remain as absolute fact in your mind no matter where the claims come from.
Any chance of explaining WTF you mean by.
Lastly, if you aren't keying you the number of children killed.

[AlexO]

Alex something to ponder If I stop you will have nothing to whine about
"Good, do yourself a favour and stop quoting Hamas propaganda as fact."

Not whining, just pointing out that you are accepting Hamas propaganda as absolute fact and that all the other handwringing organisations accept and publish the same as if they know that the figures are fact.
Dont see the same outrage when indiscriminate rockets fired at Israel by Iran's proxy terror groups kills innocent women and children. Maybe in your eyes this is legitimate in Hamas's pledge to wipe all Jews from the face of the planet.
Did you agree with the IRA's indiscriminate bombing campaign that killed civilians was justified in the name of Freedumb. Do you believe everything bloody politicians say?

[Doodoo]

"you are accepting Hamas propaganda as absolute fact" and " you are accepting Israels" propaganda as absolute fact

So what is your point

[AlexO]

"you are accepting Hamas propaganda as absolute fact" and " you are accepting Israels" propaganda as absolute fact

So what is your point

What are you going on about, where did I say you are accepting Israel's propaganda.?
The only facts that I accept are that Hamas lie as easily as they breathe and that Hamas have hijacked food aid to feed their heroic fighters and sell at exorbitant prices to civilians to fund their terror campaign.

[Doodoo]

You didnt say but I am showing you that tan argument of that sort is useless

[AlexO]

You didnt say but I am showing you that tan argument of that sort is useless

You used double quotation marks indicating I said that. Your losing the plot.
You are arguing that using the Hamas garbage propaganda is useless, yet you continue to quote as fact.
Makes absolute sense Eh.

[Doodoo]

Sure, why not

[AlexO]

Sure, why not

Because extremely stupid people and organisations believe the nonsense and take to the airwaves and streets to condemn Israelis as some form of monstrous child killing genocidal maniacs. The same Israel who are only trying to stop their next door neighbours from the repeated indiscriminate murder of the Jewish population.
When are the halfwits going to realise that Hamas have sworn to finish what the Nazi's started.

[Doodoo]

1171 days to go

[rick]

Seems like this thread has been side-tracked into another Israel/Gaza argument.

Republicans did not do well in the recent elections, Democrats won - one mayor, 2 governors and a number of minor posts. If voters vote in a similar fashion in 2026. Democrats could take control of both senate and house of representatives.

Why> because Democrats still not really knowing how to deal with Trump - but look at Trump's promises to cut food prices, electricity prices and car prices - all have gone up. It is the cost of living which most people care about. still have more tariff cost increases to filter through, and cuts to health insurance if the budget goes through. Trumponomics only works for the rich.

[Laan Yaa Mo]

The results of these elections demonstrate nothing since they are Democrat strongholds anyway and were expected to win. The only surprise was that guy Jones won to be AG in Virginia after fantasying about the murder of his opponent, and the guy's child in his wife's arms:

Screenshots of private text messages from August 2022 were made public, in which Jones made violent remarks about then-Republican House Speaker Todd Gilbert and his family. In the texts, Jones described a scenario where Gilbert "gets two bullets to the head" and expressed a wish that the Republican lawmaker's children "die in their mother's arms".

What does this tell you about Democrat voters? Some of these voters probably celebrated the murder of Charlie Kirk too. The U.S. is really messed up politically, socially and intellectually.

To confirm, just wait for Khun Doodoo to pounce with his pro-Hamas, anti-Israel propaganda.

[Mosquito]

Hard to defend either side (Hamas and Israel), also hard to claim Hamas being the initial aggressor....considering all the actions by Israel prior to Oct 7, 2023.

But, if you're on body counts / deaths.....pls consider this!!!

Oct 7th Attack: In total, 1,195 people were killed by the attacks: 736 Israeli civilians (including 38 children), 79 foreign nationals, and 379 members of the security forces.

24 Months Later: Over 20,000 Palestinian child have been killed (IMO, that's low balling it....considering the long-term effects of starvation and unsanitary living conditions),
UNICEF estimates over 64,000 children have reportedly been killed or maimed across the Gaza Strip, including at least 1,000 babies.

Oh, if my numbers are off.....they aren't off by much and again, if anything they are low-ball numbers.

Lastly, if you aren't keying you the number of children killed....You Have Fxxking Issues!!!!

So are you saying that Israel should have stopped after the same number of victims of the 7th October atrocity were killed and then just waited for Hamas to do it again at a later date. Of course non-fighting supporters of Hamas are going to be caught in the cross fire if Hamas 'hide' in built up area's. If you actually believe the claims of starvation, genocide etc then no opposing arguments are going to change your views and the unproven numbers of casualties will remain as absolute fact in your mind no matter where the claims come from.
Any chance of explaining WTF you mean by.
Lastly, if you aren't keying you the number of children killed.

AlexO,

If you didn't get it, it's about women and children being killed. I'm on the Fxxk Hamas and Fxxk Israel bandwagon, innocent civilians suffering because of their leaders.

Oh, on my numbers....I might be wrong. Just got this off Fox News.

"May 8 report, the U.N. agency appeared to have cut the number nearly in half, showing instead that some 4,959 women and 7,797 children had been killed."

Only problem, Fox News Report / Reported numbers were from May 8, 2024 (17 months ago).

Even better, pls watch Fox News reported figures and official Israel numbers, again the problem being these numbers were in May 2024.

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6352904042112

[Mosquito]

If you're to lazy to pull your head out of the sand, here are the numbers....Israel Officially reported over 14k terrorist and over 16k civilians killed.

This was over 17 months ago. Is it possible numbers haven't or only slightly increased in those 17 months, or maybe Israel under reported their numbers (again, 17 months ago). First Part: Impossible. Second Part: Highly Likely.

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6352904042112

[Doodoo]

"To confirm, just wait for Khun Doodoo to pounce with his pro-Hamas, anti-Israel propaganda."

All wrong I am pro-life whether it be Israeli Hamas, American Canadian etc
As for my comments
It appears that time and time again you are more afraid of me than the truth
Occasionally I reply, and not attack you were as nearly every (That means not all) time you put something into print you attach a negative comment about me If that turns your crank go for it.
Next time I am up your way maybe we can get together for a chat and view our differences rather than spread them all over here.

Hope this helps

[Laan Yaa Mo]

"To confirm, just wait for Khun Doodoo to pounce with his pro-Hamas, anti-Israel propaganda."

All wrong I am pro-life whether it be Israeli Hamas, American Canadian etc
As for my comments
It appears that time and time again you are more afraid of me than the truth
Occasionally I reply, and not attack you were as nearly every (That means not all) time you put something into print you attach a negative comment about me If that turns your crank go for it.
Next time I am up your way maybe we can get together for a chat and view our differences rather than spread them all over here.

Hope this helps

Right on cue, Khun Doodoo barges in with irrelevant and false statements. And now, I am doing the same. It's interesting that you are pro-life and anti-abortion.

As for a face-to-face summit, the thought is intriguing, but I am wary of gun toting citizens of the U.S. who visit Canada to kill innocent wild animals.

Hope this helps,

Back on topic, I notice that the newly elected New York Mayor is off for a jaunt at a luxury resort a la Trump for New York politicians and influencers.