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jackspratt wrote: June 15, 2025, 8:36 pmI did a different search instead.
Of course AI is not always accurate. As I said, i evaluate the information, not its source. Do you have any information or evidence (with source) that part of what I posted is inaccurate?
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I will have a look tomorrow.
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jackspratt wrote: June 15, 2025, 8:11 pm
tamada wrote: June 15, 2025, 8:06 pm
jackspratt wrote: June 15, 2025, 8:04 pm Source/link?
That looks like an AI assisted Google search opinion.

Try it.
I don't believe my query was directed at you.
At last! You have finally stated what you believe.

Makes a pleasant change from perpetually dancing on the head of a pin.

Was it difficult for you? (rhetorical)
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jackspratt wrote: June 15, 2025, 8:36 pm I did a different search instead.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Is%20AI ... s-wiz-serp
And totally deflected (again).

No need to respond but. You can carry on with your obfuscatory circumlocution with someone who doesn't mind wasting their time..
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tamada wrote: June 16, 2025, 3:35 am
jackspratt wrote: June 15, 2025, 8:36 pm I did a different search instead.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Is%20AI ... s-wiz-serp
And totally deflected (again).

No need to respond but. You can carry on with your obfuscatory circumlocution with someone who doesn't mind wasting their time..
You seem to be confused.

When I asked UM for a source/link for his boxed attachment, you decided to jump in, and suggest it was AI created.

UM then confirmed that was the case, along with the statement that "I never care about the source of information as long as it's true/accurate."

Given my own knowledge of the fact that AI shouldn't be assumed to always be correct, which rather conflicts with UM's "..as long as it is true/accurate." , I merely pointed out the known limitations of AI - there was no deflection.

I then followed up with a further post, saying I would look at his points today.

Does that help?
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Udon Map wrote: June 15, 2025, 6:52 pm
jackspratt wrote: June 15, 2025, 3:56 pmHas Iran stated that it wants to totally destroy Israel, its people and its religion?
Sometimes it's less what you say and more what you do.


Screenshot 2025-06-15 075020.png
I can't see anything in there that supports the contention that Iran wants to annihilate Jews or Judaism.

From what I have read, it doesn't recognise the legitimacy of Israel as a state, and supports its demise. Although it is probably the most extreme, it is certainly not the only country to feel that way, to a greater or lesser extent.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 024-07-08/

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/k ... KBN1XP0WM/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internati ... _of_Israel
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the media harps on about how Israel cannot take out those 50-80 meter underground centrifuge farms that are refining Uranium to 60% or higher.. They say, Israel has to get the US to use B2s to drop the big bunker buster GBU-57's.. Well, lets taking into consideration that if we believe the media and the Israelis, the IDF seems to have achieved air supremacy over Iran.. If indeed that is the case, dropping a 30,000 pound GBU-57 or an Israeli home built equivalent shouldn't be too difficult. the GBU-57''s are 20 feet long and roughly 32 inches in diameter, weighing close to 30,000 pounds in total. So, load up half a dozen C-130's with one each (well within their capacity) and fly over those nuke sites and start digging from 30,000 feet... wash, rinse, repeat..
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jackspratt wrote: June 16, 2025, 11:17 am
Udon Map wrote: June 15, 2025, 6:52 pm
jackspratt wrote: June 15, 2025, 3:56 pmHas Iran stated that it wants to totally destroy Israel, its people and its religion?
Sometimes it's less what you say and more what you do.


Screenshot 2025-06-15 075020.png
I can't see anything in there that supports the contention that Iran wants to annihilate Jews or Judaism.

From what I have read, it doesn't recognise the legitimacy of Israel as a state, and supports its demise. Although it is probably the most extreme, it is certainly not the only country to feel that way, to a greater or lesser extent.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 024-07-08/

https://www.reuters.com/article/world/k ... KBN1XP0WM/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internati ... _of_Israel
So with heartfelt honesty you cannot see the connection between the sponsoring of proxy terror organisations and the aim of annihilating Israel and Judaism.
Maybe need to brush upon your analytical skills old bean.
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jackspratt wrote: June 16, 2025, 11:17 amI can't see anything in there that supports the contention that Iran wants to annihilate Jews or Judaism.
A distinction without a difference, the same as all the people chanting "From the River to the Sea" say that they're only opposed to Zionists, not Jews.

If you believe the statements from Iran's leadership about not wanting to eliminate Jews, then undoubtedly you also believe the statements about wanting nuclear capability only for peaceful purposes. I'm afraid that we'll just have to disagree on this one.
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Do we also disagree on this viewtopic.php?p=701555#p701555

Even the most basic analysis would suggest that if you were hell-bent on eliminating Jews and Judaism, you would start in your own country, where it could be achieved with a minimum of fuss.
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Just posted on the WSJ website:

A Battered Iran Signals It Wants to De-Escalate Hostilities With Israel and Negotiate

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jackspratt wrote: June 16, 2025, 6:22 pm Do we also disagree on this viewtopic.php?p=701555#p701555

Even the most basic analysis would suggest that if you were hell-bent on eliminating Jews and Judaism, you would start in your own country, where it could be achieved with a minimum of fuss.
If they so wonderfully religiously equmenical and secular to allow a Jew in their house, why are they openly supporting at least three violent, extremist religious factions who want them all dead?

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jackspratt wrote: June 16, 2025, 6:22 pm Do we also disagree on this viewtopic.php?p=701555#p701555

Even the most basic analysis would suggest that if you were hell-bent on eliminating Jews and Judaism, you would start in your own country, where it could be achieved with a minimum of fuss.
You quoted numbers of Jewish people and the single synagogue in Iran. You didn't tell people that the Google article was dated Feb 2020. Would be interesting to know the current figures.
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AlexO wrote: June 17, 2025, 10:10 am
jackspratt wrote: June 16, 2025, 6:22 pmDo we also disagree on this viewtopic.php?p=701555#p701555

Even the most basic analysis would suggest that if you were hell-bent on eliminating Jews and Judaism, you would start in your own country, where it could be achieved with a minimum of fuss.
You quoted numbers of Jewish people and the single synagogue in Iran. You didn't tell people that the Google article was dated Feb 2020. Would be interesting to know the current figures.
According to https://worldpopulationreview.com/, there were approximately 9,100 Jews living in Iran in 2023.
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Udon Map wrote: June 17, 2025, 5:51 pm
AlexO wrote: June 17, 2025, 10:10 am
jackspratt wrote: June 16, 2025, 6:22 pmDo we also disagree on this viewtopic.php?p=701555#p701555

Even the most basic analysis would suggest that if you were hell-bent on eliminating Jews and Judaism, you would start in your own country, where it could be achieved with a minimum of fuss.
You quoted numbers of Jewish people and the single synagogue in Iran. You didn't tell people that the Google article was dated Feb 2020. Would be interesting to know the current figures.
According to https://worldpopulationreview.com/, there were approximately 9,100 Jews living in Iran in 2023.
So prior to 7th Oct. there were what only be described as a sparrows fart number compared to the overall population of Iran. Wonder how many are still there. Its not like the good old RG to miss a chance to imprison, torture or hoist someone up on a crane jib is it.
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Putting the Iranian Jews wiki wars aside for the moment, there's not many Iranians left in Teheran either.

https://news.sky.com/video/iran-thousan ... y-13384902
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tamada wrote: June 18, 2025, 9:08 am Putting the Iranian Jews wiki wars aside for the moment, there's not many Iranians left in Teheran either.

https://news.sky.com/video/iran-thousan ... y-13384902
Perhaps they think that Israel will follow the Mad Mullahs example and indiscriminately target civilian areas that have no hero's hiding in tunnels under hospitals and schools, just civilians living in fear of the RG.
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read an Aviation Daily report today of four Iranian government VIP aircraft landing in Muscat Oman.. Is it the rats leaving the sinking ship, sending their families out, or protecting their VIP aircraft from getting destroyed on the ground??
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