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Re: Ukraine

Post by Declan MacPherson » March 8, 2025, 6:38 pm

Knowing that Trump has stopped the Ukraine/NATO/EU offensive combat operations that use western supplied drones/missiles with complete reliance on US/NATO targeting, it does not come as a surprise to see Zelenskyy now calling for a “sky and sea truce.”

This call for Russia to stop the air and sea combat operations, while still supporting frontline combat operations, is only an effort by the EU to keep the war going.

Source: EU News
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy called for an air and sea truce on Friday after Russia bombarded Ukraine’s energy infrastructure overnight.

Writing on Telegram, he reiterated that there must be “silence” in the seas and skies over Ukraine. The “first steps toward real peace must include forcing the sole source of this war, Russia, to stop such attacks against life,” the Ukrainian leader said.

Russia targeted Ukraine’s energy infrastructure overnight in a large-scale missile and drone attack, Ukrainian officials said Friday.
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The attack came hours after Zelenskyy announced that talks with the US on ending the three-year war would take place in Saudi Arabia next week.
The only substantive action that would impact Pootin would be if the US military joined the Z/EU alliance, and that's not going to happen.

Forcing the Z/EU alliance to accept peace is only a matter of stopping US support for the Z/EU war effort. In addition to extreme economic outcomes as a result of potential tariffs on the EU, the complete withdrawal from NATO is an option that Trump continues to possess.

Even though the Z/EU alliance has been greatly weakened because the US refuses to be a part of their war, that alliance of losers continues to pretend.

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Re: Ukraine

Post by jackspratt » March 8, 2025, 8:08 pm

Declan MacPherson wrote:
March 8, 2025, 6:38 pm

"Let's see what happens."
- Trump
"Let's see what didn't happen."
- Declan
Declan MacPherson wrote:
March 6, 2025, 9:01 pm
Trump has positioned Pootin with carte blanche military operational ability, but Pootin is NOT using it; he is self-restrained. He knows that Trump has shut down uXXXkraine operationally.

uXXXkraine is literally and figuratively naked right now, but Pootin is not utilizing Russia's ability to completely crush them.
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Post by jackspratt » March 8, 2025, 9:13 pm

So Donny Dogs-Balls is not only facilitating his favourite dictator now, but also offering aid and comfort to his old friend, Kim Jung-Un.
According to Ukrainian media, North Korean troops have made significant gains in Russia’s Kursk oblast, where Ukrainian combat groups seized territory seven months ago. The North Koreans broke through Ukrainian defences south of the Kyiv-held Russian town of Sudzha, cutting off a key road, reports said.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... nd-the-war

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Post by papafarang » March 9, 2025, 7:39 am

Not the north Koreans again 😂, Ukraine media also said 4,000, killed . Then another 8,000 killed out of the 10,000 that went there. It's also very strange that the kill rate is 100% . Not one single Korean survived or was captured. They don't even try to hide the fact that it's all propaganda BS. Grown intelligent men repeating this bs is hilarious 😆.
Everyone busy calling trump names, like that will change things for Ukraine. Trump is right, America is not at war with russia. And why should it be ?. I will say the Europeans have now got themselves into a situation that has no way out. The fantasy being sold now is Europe rearming over the next 5 years, like the russian won't rearm over the next 5 years. When a fight is lost and the commander continues to send troops to the front is is no longer a commander, he's an executioner.
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Re: Ukraine

Post by Udon Map » March 9, 2025, 5:05 pm

papafarang wrote:
March 9, 2025, 7:39 am
It's also very strange that the kill rate is 100%. Not one single Korean survived or was captured.
Reminds me of the scene from The Great Escape. None were wounded, all were shot and killed.



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Post by tamada » March 9, 2025, 5:29 pm

papafarang wrote:
March 9, 2025, 7:39 am
Not the north Koreans again 😂, Ukraine media also said 4,000, killed . Then another 8,000 killed out of the 10,000 that went there. It's also very strange that the kill rate is 100% . Not one single Korean survived or was captured. They don't even try to hide the fact that it's all propaganda BS. Grown intelligent men repeating this bs is hilarious 😆.
Everyone busy calling trump names, like that will change things for Ukraine. Trump is right, America is not at war with russia. And why should it be ?. I will say the Europeans have now got themselves into a situation that has no way out. The fantasy being sold now is Europe rearming over the next 5 years, like the russian won't rearm over the next 5 years. When a fight is lost and the commander continues to send troops to the front is is no longer a commander, he's an executioner.
Your assertion that "America is not at war with Russia" is based on what? Trump giving away the farm that isn't his to give away?

They've ALWAYS been at war unless you swallowed all that glasnost crap from the pisshead Yeltsin (while underling Putin beetled away at restoring the glories of the former Soviet Union). What America has now is the mother of all proxy wars with Europe versus Russia. Never has the old adage of, "when America sh*ts the bed, the whole world has to lie in it" been more true than right now.

Anyway, do you think that Trump will sit on his hands and let 740+ million Europeans go under the Kremlin's cosh? Him wi' two golf courses, a Scottish granny an' aw that?
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Post by pipoz4444 » March 9, 2025, 6:08 pm

30 Years Ago

4.10

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6.00

11.58 ????

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Re: Ukraine

Post by anefarious1 » March 11, 2025, 6:14 pm

"Ukraine doesn't have the cards" says Mr. "Art of the deal". Trump has handed the entire deck to Putin.

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Post by WimH » March 11, 2025, 6:16 pm

AlexO wrote:
March 1, 2025, 8:02 am

Seldom has there been a more public example of a dictatorial wannabe and his knee bending assistants in action.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SnnpFKNG70
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Post by tamada » March 14, 2025, 6:15 pm

Witkoff leaves Moscow without as much as a sandwich, let alone an invite to dinner.

https://apnews.com/article/steve-witkof ... 0aa0eda58e
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Re: Ukraine

Post by papafarang » March 20, 2025, 2:15 am

Kursk done, new advance by Ukraine on belgarod....
500 m into Russia then destroyed.
They keep going on about cards to play. Trouble is whatever trump does don't matter as Putin has 4 of a kind in hand already...china,china,china,china.
Simply put, no superpower is going to sacrifice it's future to save an insignificant country. trump can save Ukraine , which is what the Chinese are hoping he will try to do.
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Post by tamada » March 20, 2025, 4:27 am

Europe, a veritable pot pourri of "insignificant" countries.

You read it here first.
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Post by tamada » March 20, 2025, 4:30 am

Anyway, Trump's gotten over his Oval Office dummy spit, spoke directly with Zelenskiyy who extracted promises for the US to cudgel the Europeans into delivering more air defence capability to Ukraine.
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Post by Barney » March 24, 2025, 7:02 am

Maybe there is something silently in the wind for an end of the conflict. US companies are beginning to jockey for position to be involved in the rebuild of Ukraine.

https://www.seaf.com/sgai-partnership/

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Re: Ukraine

Post by AlexO » March 24, 2025, 8:21 am

Barney wrote:
March 24, 2025, 7:02 am
Maybe there is something silently in the wind for an end of the conflict. US companies are beginning to jockey for position to be involved in the rebuild of Ukraine.

https://www.seaf.com/sgai-partnership/
More than likely Barney.
The big boys will all be bending the knee and giving ever more vomit inducing plaudits to the man-child.
With the US sliding into a wholly preventable recession, the new Don at the head of a multitude of super rich parasites will be hovering over any possible money making opportunity.
Las Vegas on the Eastern Med comes to mind.

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Post by joepai » March 24, 2025, 1:49 pm

A good read and the last sentence sums things up perfectly

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Post by tamada » March 24, 2025, 4:51 pm

Barney wrote:
March 24, 2025, 7:02 am
Maybe there is something silently in the wind for an end of the conflict. US companies are beginning to jockey for position to be involved in the rebuild of Ukraine.

https://www.seaf.com/sgai-partnership/
Similar to post-war Iraq and Afghanistan and we all know how splendidly that worked out for the Iraqis, Afghans, the free world in general and the management and shareholders of Bechtel, KBR, Fluor, etc..
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