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Re: US Presidential election odds

Post by Doodoo » June 7, 2024, 9:24 am

"Mussolini and Hitler who, presumably, were from a more vibrant and intellectually superior generation"

Mussolini was brought up in a poor family with his father being a Blacksmith, drinking and spending his wage on his mistress.

"Hitler rebelled against this decision, and in Mein Kampf states that he intentionally performed poorly in school, hoping that once his father saw "what little progress I was making at the technical school he would let me devote myself to my dream"
So where is the vibrant and intellectual superior generation come from???



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Re: US Presidential election odds

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 7, 2024, 10:38 am

You are asking the wrong person, doodoo. Someone else brought up the 'old geezer' phrase and its implications.
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Post by glalt » June 7, 2024, 1:58 pm

I am a US citizen and I will not vote for either of these old men. I have no idea what is wrong with both parties. I am an old man too and I know for a fact that I am slipping. Biden cannot even put a sentence together. Trump is just Trump, No doubt better mentally than Biden, but we all know Trump..

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Re: US Presidential election odds

Post by Doodoo » June 7, 2024, 3:26 pm

But Glat there are others, you give your vote to

Democrats
Marianne Williamson,

Independents
Cornel West People's Party
Jill Stein Green Party
Chase Oliver former Democrat

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Post by glalt » June 7, 2024, 4:35 pm

Voting for any of these candidates is the same as not voting at all.

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Re: US Presidential election odds

Post by Drunk Monkey » June 7, 2024, 5:09 pm

glalt wrote:
June 7, 2024, 1:58 pm
I am a US citizen and I will not vote for either of these old men. I have no idea what is wrong with both parties. I am an old man too and I know for a fact that I am slipping. Biden cannot even put a sentence together. Trump is just Trump, No doubt better mentally than Biden, but we all know Trump..
AGREE ...Its a sad state of affairs when the choice boils down to these two embarrassing geriatric old farts ... just why cant the USA seem to find a younger POTUS is head shaking.

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Re: US Presidential election odds

Post by Whistler » June 8, 2024, 12:51 pm

Laan Yaa Mo wrote:
June 7, 2024, 8:51 am
Forgot to mention that some would look upon Trump as an 'old geezer', which is very different from Mussolini and Hitler who, presumably, were from a more vibrant and intellectually superior generation when they acquired dictatorial power. That being said, let's hope that Trump never acquires it.
100% with you on this observation. The other huge difference, is Trump came with a silver spoon in his mouth, if he was not coddles and bankrolled by his father, would he have amounted to anything?

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Re: US Presidential election odds

Post by tamada » June 9, 2024, 5:56 am

tamada wrote:
June 5, 2024, 3:54 am
Comparisons with Hitler are as spectacularly predictable as they are ill-conceived. They are promulgated by people with an inferior grasp of 20th century European socio-economics and amplified by those with a less than superficial knowledge of inter-war history.
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Or, those who are absolutely clueless.

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Post by tamada » June 28, 2024, 10:03 am

Oh dear. Biden's train wreck of a first presidential debate.
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Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 28, 2024, 10:09 am

Was he decked out in the Scotland kit?
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Post by tamada » June 28, 2024, 10:12 am

Laan Yaa Mo wrote:
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Was he decked out in the Scotland kit?
Doubt if it would make any difference. An ass-handing is an ass-handing.

However, after getting past the obvious sound bites, Trump was typically evasive and all over the shop.
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Post by anefarious1 » June 28, 2024, 12:26 pm

The debate was very sad to watch. VERY SAD. We just witnessed the end of Biden's career. On the bright side, because the debate was held so early, there is still time (AROUND 7 WEEKS) for the Dems to rally around another candidate before the August convention. Somebody ANYBODY please convince Jill (I mean Joe) to step aside because the entire world is depending on it.

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Re: US Presidential election odds

Post by Barney » June 28, 2024, 12:55 pm

Just a question as I'm curious at times how the US campaign works.
If Joe Biden steps down doe's his vice president Kamala go with him?
Would a new candidate bring in their own running partner?

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Post by Whistler » June 28, 2024, 1:03 pm

If it becomes a Kamala v Trump, Trump will romp in

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Re: US Presidential election odds

Post by anefarious1 » June 28, 2024, 1:14 pm

Barney wrote:
June 28, 2024, 12:55 pm
Just a question as I'm curious at times how the US campaign works.
If Joe Biden steps down doe's his vice president Kamala go with him?
Would a new candidate bring in their own running partner?
Separate voting is held for the VP job at the August convention. So if Biden is replaced Kamala will very likely be replaced as well. Actually, she could end up being the candidate to run against trump but I'm hoping Biden will pass the baton to Newsom.

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Re: US Presidential election odds

Post by David Chop » June 28, 2024, 1:27 pm

I say the debate was a smashing success, if you're the media. We'll get a resurrection of the "Dems In Disarray" line, along with fever dreams about Biden dropping out so the always un-named Johnny Unbeatable can run at the top of the ticket (but not Kamala because eww, cooties or something). Followed shortly by "new polling out today shows ..." Brilliant. Just Brilliant. The horse race is fully back on! An endless stream of "click here!"s from now to November.

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Post by Declan MacPherson » June 28, 2024, 2:16 pm

anefarious1 wrote:
June 28, 2024, 1:14 pm
Separate voting is held for the VP job at the August convention.
The VP is selected by the presidential candidate selected by the convention. Are there things going on behind the scenes? Yes. But there is no formal convention vote for VP.

If Biden drops out, Kamala is automatically out unless the new presidential candidate chooses her for his/her ticket or Kamala is chosen to be the presidential candidate. I don't see Kamala lasting if Joe is out.

It'll probably be Newsom and Rice if Biden is dumped.
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Re: US Presidential election odds

Post by Barney » June 28, 2024, 3:15 pm

Declan MacPherson wrote:
June 28, 2024, 2:16 pm
anefarious1 wrote:
June 28, 2024, 1:14 pm
Separate voting is held for the VP job at the August convention.
The VP is selected by the presidential candidate selected by the convention. Are there things going on behind the scenes? Yes. But there is no formal convention vote for VP.

If Biden drops out, Kamala is automatically out unless the new presidential candidate chooses her for his/her ticket or Kamala is chosen to be the presidential candidate. I don't see Kamala lasting if Joe is out.

It'll probably be Newsom and Rice if Biden is dumped.
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Re: US Presidential election odds

Post by Udon Map » June 28, 2024, 3:24 pm

I'm sorry to say that Joe is clearly past his sell-by date. It's time for someone to persuade him to drop out. Unfortunately, if he won't do it voluntarily, I don't think that there's any way to get rid of him. Most, if not all, delegates to the convention are bound to vote on the first ballot, as directed by the voters, and Biden wins the nomination on the first ballot under those rules. Kamala, that power hungry bitch, must be salivating at even the small possibility that Joe might be re-elected. I don't see him surviving for the full term.

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Re: US Presidential election odds

Post by Doodoo » June 28, 2024, 4:17 pm

I dont see him lasting until Election Day

Joe is past due

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