US Presidential election odds

[Stantheman]

IF Uncle Joe is the nominee and IF he is elected,that would be very dangerous because Kamala the air head would likely become president. That's scary indeed. Trump would be a safer choice.

Not really.

There is no indication that Kamala would try to turn American democracy on its head.

You can't say the same for Trump, who has already tried it once.

The difference is Kamala would push a California type agenda, which is very much more liberal then Bidens, but still preferred, holding my nose, over " I'll be a Dictator on Day One Trump"

[Udon Map]

IF Uncle Joe is the nominee and IF he is elected,that would be very dangerous because Kamala the air head would likely become president. That's scary indeed. Trump would be a safer choice.

Not really.

There is no indication that Kamala would try to turn American democracy on its head.

You can't say the same for Trump, who has already tried it once.

The difference is Kamala would push a California type agenda, which is very much more liberal then Bidens, but still preferred, holding my nose, over " I'll be a Dictator on Day One Trump"

I disagree. I don't think that she'd push a California-like agenda. Nor do I think that she'd push an America First agenda. She'd push a Kamala First agenda.

I can't stand her.

[Whistler]

Amen to that UM. I wonder if there will be any action to enact provisions to remove Biden pre November? I don't think he is bad man, but too many gaffes to deny he has lost the plot.

Trump not that far off either, does it come down to this

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=there+coming+ ... Fn36l_z3WY

[tamada]

IF Uncle Joe is the nominee and IF he is elected,that would be very dangerous because Kamala the air head would likely become president. That's scary indeed. Trump would be a safer choice.

Not really.

There is no indication that Kamala would try to turn American democracy on its head.

You can't say the same for Trump, who has already tried it once.

Got to agree. The "but Kamala" argument doesn't carry nearly the same weight as "but Hillary" or "but Obama".

Or "but Trump" for that matter.

TBH, Trump's effort to "turn American democracy on its head" only happened after he had lost the election, not during his four years in office.

[tamada]

IF Uncle Joe is the nominee and IF he is elected,that would be very dangerous because Kamala the air head would likely become president. That's scary indeed. Trump would be a safer choice.

Not really.

There is no indication that Kamala would try to turn American democracy on its head.

You can't say the same for Trump, who has already tried it once.

The difference is Kamala would push a California type agenda, which is very much more liberal then Bidens, but still preferred, holding my nose, over " I'll be a Dictator on Day One Trump"

I disagree. I don't think that she'd push a California-like agenda. Nor do I think that she'd push an America First agenda. She'd push a Kamala First agenda.

I can't stand her.

Agreed. The salads at The Olive Garden are far superior.

[glalt]

Kamala is in charge of the borders. Has she done a good job? She is a know nothing and do nothing Californian. There is still a faint hope. Maybe Super Tuesday will eliminate Trump. Choosing between Biden or Trump is a depressing thought.

[Whistler]

Glalt,

I think you need to buy a good bottle of bourbon for November, half a bottle and it never happened

[glalt]

Glalt,

I think you need to buy a good bottle of bourbon for November, half a bottle and it never happened

Maybe I'm not a patriot and not a hard liquor lover, BUT, I prefer Canadian or Jameson whiskey to bourbon. I'd vote for anyone other than Biden because that would essentially be a vote for Kamala. It is always possible that Trump will be convicted of a felony and someone else will be a nominee.

[jackspratt]

Oh! dear.

Unfortunately, will be in one ear, straight through an intellectual vacuum, and out the other ear, for the vast majority of the cultists.

Poll Ranks Biden as 14th-Best President, With Trump Last

President Biden may owe his place in the top third to his predecessor: Mr. Biden’s signature accomplishment, according to the historians, was evicting Donald J. Trump from the Oval Office.

A new poll of historians coming out on Presidents’ Day weekend ranks Mr. Biden as the 14th-best president in American history, just ahead of Woodrow Wilson, Ronald Reagan and Ulysses S. Grant. While that may not get Mr. Biden a spot on Mount Rushmore, it certainly puts him well ahead of Mr. Trump, who places dead last as the worst president ever......
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/18/us/p ... kings.html

[tamada]

Here's more opinion on the current Veep

https://on.rt.com/cp61

[David Chop]

Here's more opinion on the current Veep

https://on.rt.com/cp61

RT ... really?
First you want to leave them alone, then you want to nuke them, then you want to cite their propaganda. You're just all over the map.

[Whistler]

Update on polls for February, I am a bit early for end of month but I am off to Australia for a short business trip and will be busy.

Biden's gaffs and disastrous press conference seems to be out weighed by Trumps legal hammering. In the swing states the gap has narrowed, it shows a strong swing to Biden during February. The polls are showing it is neck and neck but Trumps support is heading South, and his support seems to be slipping rapidly. Pennsylvania and Wisconson have gone from strong GOP to being marginal, some national polls now have Biden ahead by 1%.

Much too close to call.

[tamada]

Here's more opinion on the current Veep

https://on.rt.com/cp61

RT ... really?
First you want to leave them alone, then you want to nuke them, then you want to cite their propaganda. You're just all over the map.

MSN... really?
CNN... really?
ABC... really?
BBC... really?
Fox... really?

What's wrong with citing RT or Xinhua or even PBS for that matter? Are you feeling threatened in your own, little home-grown affirmation echo chamber over there? A bit insecure maybe? Anyway, the "propaganda" that you prefer to watch is entirely your problem, not mine.

If you bothered to read the RT opinion, you would see it simply mirrors the same doubts and uncertainties over Harris's abilities to perform as POTUS as the American polls indicate. Fellow members have pointed out the very same foibles and weaknesses. Does that mean they're Putin-lovers?

That's OK though since, as the former rather unremarkable DA and AG of LA and CA, you reckon she'll do just fine if Biden demurs on the gig.

[Laan Yaa Mo]

Update on polls for February, I am a bit early for end of month but I am off to Australia for a short business trip and will be busy.

Biden's gaffs and disastrous press conference seems to be out weighed by Trumps legal hammering. In the swing states the gap has narrowed, it shows a strong swing to Biden during February. The polls are showing it is neck and neck but Trumps support is heading South, and his support seems to be slipping rapidly. Pennsylvania and Wisconson have gone from strong GOP to being marginal, some national polls now have Biden ahead by 1%.

Much too close to call.

Thanks for holding back on the prediction. I gather Wagner ousting Putin, and Guliani testifying against Trump are still on the backburner. Enjoy Australia.

[Whistler]

Stalker alert!

Strange comments. When did I ever predict that Wagner was going to oust Putin? Copy of Posts please. As for Guliani possibly testifying against Trump, not a bad prediction at all, if you think otherwise, please share your wisdom. Guiliani's life is a mess, talk of him suing Trump for unpaid legal fees and he will be star witness/co-conspirator in several cases, I would be astounded if he does not spill the beans rather than commit purjery to protect Trump.

Might be worth checking your facts before making disparaging remarks, not that making such remarks is necessary in the first place, but realise you just cannot help yourself.

[Drunk Monkey]

There was a recent poll that categorically showed that polls are a load of bollocks and are easily manipulated to suit .. therefore im sticking with my prediction DT will win and be POTUS once again and MAGA.

DM

[David Chop]

MSN... really?
[snip]
What's wrong with citing RT

This is why I called you out. Because you can't tell the difference between MSN/CNN and RT. America catches flak for "installing" Pinochet back in the 70s, when in fact what the CIA did was plant articles in the local press to tilt public opinion. The ---- you think Russia is doing with RT? An you, you bit. Chomped right down on the bait.

Fellow members have pointed out the very same foibles and weaknesses. Does that mean they're Putin-lovers?

No I don't think they're Putin lovers. I think they're (like you) gullible. Fellas please, do better. Getting trolled isn't a good look.

[Whistler]

There was a recent poll that categorically showed that polls are a load of bollocks and are easily manipulated to suit .. therefore im sticking with my prediction DT will win and be POTUS once again and MAGA.

DM

If you don't believe in polls, why do you believe this 'recent poll'?

[jackspratt]

You're just all over the map.

I enjoyed that pun.

[Whistler]

MSN... really?
[snip]
What's wrong with citing RT

This is why I called you out. Because you can't tell the difference between MSN/CNN and RT. America catches flak for "installing" Pinochet back in the 70s, when in fact what the CIA did was plant articles in the local press to tilt public opinion. The **** you think Russia is doing with RT? An you, you bit. Chomped right down on the bait.

Fellow members have pointed out the very same foibles and weaknesses. Does that mean they're Putin-lovers?

No I don't think they're Putin lovers. I think they're (like you) gullible. Fellas please, do better. Getting trolled isn't a good look.

David,

The US government did a whole lot more than spend money on press articles. There is a lot of strong evidence that they also sent automatic weapons to 'friendly' forces in Chile and helped organise the coup against Allende with bribes and weapons. Some of the weapons were delivered to anti government bodies in diplomatic pouches.

The Church Committee that reviewed the CIA's involvement is largely considered a whitewash but correspondence revealed from Nixon and Kissinger shows how deeply the CIA was involved in the coup