Russia

[mak]

A Russian is on an airliner flying to the US. An American next to him asks “What brings you to the US?”
The Russian replies “I’m studying the American approach to propaganda.”
The American asks “What propaganda?”
The Russian says, “That’s what I mean.”

[Whistler]

A Russian is on an airliner flying to the US. An American next to him asks “What brings you to the US?”
The Russian replies “I’m studying the American approach to propaganda.”
The American asks “What propaganda?”
The Russian says, “That’s what I mean.”

The answer could have been a little more reflectful.

The Russian when asked could say 'Well you managed to invade Iraq on false information without being condemned by the UN, but when we invaded Ukraine based on false information, two-thirds of the world turned against us, how come your propaganda seems to fly under the radar. Also when we arm an insurgent group, they are called communist-funded terrorists, but if you arm an insurgent group they get called freedom fighters'?

[Udon Map]

A Russian is on an airliner flying to the US. An American next to him asks “What brings you to the US?”
The Russian replies “I’m studying the American approach to propaganda.”
The American asks “What propaganda?”
The Russian says, “That’s what I mean.”

The Russian when asked could say 'Well you managed to invade Iraq on false information without being condemned by the UN, but when we invaded Ukraine based on false information, two-thirds of the world turned against us, how come your propaganda seems to fly under the radar. Also when we arm an insurgent group, they are called communist-funded terrorists, but if you arm an insurgent group they get called freedom fighters'?

Any idea what the false information was on which Russia allegedly based its attack on Ukraine?

[Whistler]

A Russian is on an airliner flying to the US. An American next to him asks “What brings you to the US?”
The Russian replies “I’m studying the American approach to propaganda.”
The American asks “What propaganda?”
The Russian says, “That’s what I mean.”

The Russian when asked could say 'Well you managed to invade Iraq on false information without being condemned by the UN, but when we invaded Ukraine based on false information, two-thirds of the world turned against us, how come your propaganda seems to fly under the radar. Also when we arm an insurgent group, they are called communist-funded terrorists, but if you arm an insurgent group they get called freedom fighters'?

Any idea what the false information was on which Russia allegedly based its attack on Ukraine?

Putin has stated it was to de-nazify Ukraine and replace the government with....I would suggest a puppet, Putin said otherwise

[Udon Map]

A Russian is on an airliner flying to the US. An American next to him asks “What brings you to the US?”
The Russian replies “I’m studying the American approach to propaganda.”
The American asks “What propaganda?”
The Russian says, “That’s what I mean.”

The Russian when asked could say 'Well you managed to invade Iraq on false information without being condemned by the UN, but when we invaded Ukraine based on false information, two-thirds of the world turned against us, how come your propaganda seems to fly under the radar. Also when we arm an insurgent group, they are called communist-funded terrorists, but if you arm an insurgent group they get called freedom fighters'?

Any idea what the false information was on which Russia allegedly based its attack on Ukraine?

Putin has stated it was to de-nazify Ukraine and replace the government with....I would suggest a puppet, Putin said otherwise

Oh, right. I forgot about the de-Nazification. One might argue, as some have, that it was really about expansionism, colonialism, Putin's ego, and trying to reassemble the Russian empire. But, yes, de-Nazification was as good a pretext as any.

[Kenr6583]

Putin have several reasons why he invaded Ukraine. Just to name a few; de-Nazification, Ukraine is not a real county, librate ethnic Russians from genocide, NATO, bring back the Soviet Union.

The reality it that it nothing more than a land grab.

No matter the outcome, all he did was force two (2) bordering countries to apply to join NATO that never had any interest of doing so.

[Potamoi]

I enjoyed listening to Fiona Hill's insight here:



https://youtu.be/vNhSCF9i8Qs

I also find Lex Fridman's intellect and general demeanor make for important and interesting questions being asked of his guests.

NOTE: Lex Fridman and Joe Rogan long form podcasts are often 2-4 hours in length. If you are looking for a 3 min interview soundbite style format, look elsewhere. I find the long form conversations a nice alternative to music while walking/exercising or long solo drives and swap between these and audio books now.

[rick]

Most wars start because someone wants someone elses land. The history of the last 100 years or so shows that mainly it does not end well for those who start it. And people whose land has been taken by force usually want it back, even generations later.
Iraq, afghanistan, not exactly victories for USA/Europe. Russia has had a few bloody noses as well, seems they have short memories, most of Eastern Europe made their opinion of Russia very clear 30 years ago as soon as they got the opportunity.

[Whistler]

Spot on Rick

[mak]

Russian T-72 tank parked outside the Russian Embassy in Berlin.

[mak]

Meanwhile, after the "concert":

[mak]

Dissension in the ranks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX6h9ZgHRco&t=179s
I liked the reference to "Grandpa Lenin". The plan was to have everyone live well. Instead, everyone lived the same , but poorly.