Udon Town. Birthday.

[Old Grumpy]

Yes its that time again tomorrow the 18th.Early morning many streets around Prajak statue closed for the mass dancing, so best to avoid until a bit later unless you want to watch the record breaking occassion.

[Drunk Monkey]

Indeed it is Val .. DM being practicing for weeks will be up the crack of dawn applying my make up n fancy frock to go shake my bootie and break another record as the only falang transvestite taking part, all for a good cause of course ...so any members going to watch and spot me please give me a loud cheer(and a tip or can of Chang or both)

BTW Im the one in the orange blouse

Sorry unrelated to udon but this sketch makes me larf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6U35hmvdcQ

DM

[stattointhailand]

Poor Dawn

[Laan Yaa Mo]

I don't get it. Wiki says Udon Thani was founded on 15 March 1936. I am forbidden, according to UdonMap from quoting the link. Just google the founding of Udon Thani from Wiki and you'll see the reference.

Furthermore, before the 1890s, Isaan was part of one of the Lao Kingdoms so the village or town of Udon Thani might stretch much further back than 130 years.

[stattointhailand]

Shock horror, you mean there are untruths in wiki? Who ever would have thought that

[parrot]

k

[tamada]

HBD Oodorn!!!

[Laan Yaa Mo]

k

I can't read this. What does it say?

I get this message when I try to copy from Wiki: Forbidden
You don't have permission to access this resource.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

I can copy this, Udon Thani town municipality (thesaban mueang) with an area of 5.6 km2 (2.2 sq mi) was established on 15 March 1936.[7] - wiki

[tamada]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udon_Thani

Needs a whole lot of work.

[parrot]

Sorry about that screenshot........here's the wiki page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udon_Thani_province
Founded in 1893.
"Once known as Ban Mak-kaeng, Udon Thani was originally settled as a military base established by Prince Prachaksinlapakhom to suppress an uprising in the northeastern city of Lao Puan. Ban Mak-kaeng grew slowly from a small rural town to become what is now the city of Udon Thani. He founded Udon Thani town in 1893, established the civil administration and served important official duties for the region."

[Laan Yaa Mo]

Well, it's a bit confusing to have the official records state that Udon Thani town was founded in 1893, and then to have a government source indicate that Udon Thani town municipality was established in 1936. It seems that Ban Mak-kaeng was the town/military base was the one founded in 1893, and Udon Thani came later. Whatever, Happy Birthday Udon Thani.

This was my source,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Udon_Than ... ipality%20(thesaban,established%20on%2015%20March%201936.

[Earnest]

Was it a Lao town in 1893 or Thai?

[rick]

Depends. Siam in the 19th Century included large parts of what is now Laos, mainly as vassal states, The French recognised the area as vassal states of Siam in 1886, but took over control in 1889 of parts of Laos. The border was set as the Mekong, areas to the South stayed under Siamese control. Borders in this area were somewhat fluid as it was a network of small Kingdoms, which were claimed by Vietnam, China and Siam, before the French arrived. The Taiping rebellion caused many refugees to flee to this area, causing major instability and war. The Siamese forcibly relocated many Laotians south of the Mekong to settle sparsely populated areas (Udon?) The main city was then Nong Khai, but as this was within a cannon shot of French controlled areas (Vientianne) they moved the provincial capital to Udon Thani. I am sure LYM knows more.

[Earnest]

There you go, thanks Rick. My modern assumption, I suppose, nation states with hard borders. I do remember something similar to what you described with HK at the turn of the 20th century, where there was no hard border between China proper and the New Territories at that time.

[parrot]

And then there is the ancient Khmer empire:

The Khmer empire was a state of Southeast Asia that lasted from about ad 802 to 1431. It enjoyed its greatest prosperity from the 11th to the 13th century. The Khmer empire ruled much of what is now Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, and Vietnam

[tamada]

And then there is the ancient Khmer empire:

The Khmer empire was a state of Southeast Asia that lasted from about ad 802 to 1431. It enjoyed its greatest prosperity from the 11th to the 13th century. The Khmer empire ruled much of what is now Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, and Vietnam

..and Oodorn hadn't even been invented yet.

[Laan Yaa Mo]

And then there is the ancient Khmer empire:

The Khmer empire was a state of Southeast Asia that lasted from about ad 802 to 1431. It enjoyed its greatest prosperity from the 11th to the 13th century. The Khmer empire ruled much of what is now Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, and Vietnam

And then there was Mon Dvaravati which controlled much of central Thailand and Burma at the same time or even earlier than Angkor. One of its capitals was Nakhon Pathom. In the North before the Thai arrived and established the Lan Na State, there was Mon Haripunchaiya with its capital at Lamphun. It had a Mon ally at Thaton in Burma. The so-called first Thai State at Sukhothai in the 13th century was actually probably a Lao state based on early stone inscriptions.

There was an Indonesian State that ruled much of Southern Thailand with its capital at Nakhon Sri Thammarat around the same time as Angkor.