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Post by sometimewoodworker » July 23, 2021, 11:07 am

Kenr6583 wrote:
July 23, 2021, 7:16 am
All the vaccines work differently, so mixing them would probably not be in anybody's best interest.
That is incorrect information, the best advice is that there is nothing to suggest that having different vaccines is detrimental and many medical professionals suggest that it is good and increases protection.

No they haven’t been tested together.


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Post by ladda3904 » July 23, 2021, 11:14 am

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I can't find the medical professionals who say mixing vaccine is OK. I would like to read their findings. Would help I making a decision on vaccines

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Post by Doodoo » July 23, 2021, 12:06 pm

well many countries are doing the mixing of vaccines and reaping the benefits of better protection
Germany, Italy and Canada " German Chancellor Angela Merkel did it. So did Canada’s Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and Italian Premier Mario Draghi. They bucked the advice of health agencies and mixed their COVID-19 vaccines after doubts about the effectiveness of the AstraZeneca version against the Delta variant began circulating."
The testing has started some months ago. Loads of articles out there

Hope this helps

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Post by pipoz4444 » July 23, 2021, 5:18 pm

This gives some explanation of the Covid 19 Variants and how they travelled




Like any virus, SARS-CoV-2 has been mutating constantly since the beginning of the pandemic. Until November 2020, though, that didn’t seem to matter. That’s when scientists in the United Kingdom noticed an alarming change: The virus had mutated in a way that made it more transmissible. Within a month, similar reports were emerging from places around the world. Suddenly, it seemed the virus was changing at an alarming rate.

SARS-CoV-2 hasn’t actually been mutating faster, though. Instead, by letting it spread around the world, we’ve just given it more and more opportunities to mutate as it replicates. The result is that after countless random mutations, there are signs that the virus is beginning to adapt to our natural defenses. And because it’s completely normal for a virus to change over time, we shouldn’t expect it to stop. The only real way to stop those changes is to stop giving the virus so many opportunities.

Link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha6yUxze1vk

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Post by tamada » July 23, 2021, 7:46 pm

samuel wrote:
July 22, 2021, 7:46 am
🔴 IMPORTANT UPDATE
If you really need to do interprovincial travel through the red zone, you are advised to fill in a form stating the reason for your journey.
The QR Code this gives you will help you pass through checkpoints quicker.
Form is now in English
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>>> https://covid-19.in.th/en
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Is that link working in Thailand? I am out and about and get the following.
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YMMV

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Post by jackspratt » July 23, 2021, 8:00 pm

tamada wrote:
July 23, 2021, 7:46 pm
Is that link working in Thailand?
Yep.

I got to the "enter your details" page, so assume it continues further.

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Post by tamada » July 23, 2021, 10:12 pm

Anyone headed for the U.K. can expect a less torrid time with health checks on arrival. Although the passenger record, pre-test, accommodation and post-test plans still need to be all done, bought, paid, etc., before travel, Border Force won't be checking them on arrival. The onus is on the airline to verify the passenger having all that's required to board the plane. Makes sense really since it was a huge duplication of effort at each end of a "closed" flight. AFAIK, there's been no reports of huge numbers fronting up at UK arrivals with rubbish docs.

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Post by tamada » July 23, 2021, 10:22 pm

pipoz4444 wrote:
July 23, 2021, 5:18 pm
This gives some explanation of the Covid 19 Variants and how they travelled




Like any virus, SARS-CoV-2 has been mutating constantly since the beginning of the pandemic. Until November 2020, though, that didn’t seem to matter. That’s when scientists in the United Kingdom noticed an alarming change: The virus had mutated in a way that made it more transmissible. Within a month, similar reports were emerging from places around the world. Suddenly, it seemed the virus was changing at an alarming rate.

SARS-CoV-2 hasn’t actually been mutating faster, though. Instead, by letting it spread around the world, we’ve just given it more and more opportunities to mutate as it replicates. The result is that after countless random mutations, there are signs that the virus is beginning to adapt to our natural defenses. And because it’s completely normal for a virus to change over time, we shouldn’t expect it to stop. The only real way to stop those changes is to stop giving the virus so many opportunities.

Link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha6yUxze1vk

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Good info, thanks. So the genie came out of the bottle in Dec/Jan 19/20 but some time late summer 2020, and after the first wave had dissipated, governments around the world chose to throw the bloody bottle away by relaxing lockdowns until maybe 3 or 4 months AFTER the more infectious Delta mutation was already beginning to wreak havoc.

Just read that Philippines recorded their first Delta carrier and have put Malaysia and Thailand on their red list. Since both these countries infection rates took off within 28 days of their first Delta detections, I can only predict that the PI's current, lower and falling infection rate will be a thing of the past this time next month.

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Post by tamada » July 23, 2021, 10:29 pm

jackspratt wrote:
July 23, 2021, 8:00 pm
tamada wrote:
July 23, 2021, 7:46 pm
Is that link working in Thailand?
Yep.

I got to the "enter your details" page, so assume it continues further.
Makes sense that it's geoblocked. Anyone arriving from overseas has 15 days of ASQ serenity to file his local travel permission paperwork.

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Post by Doodoo » July 24, 2021, 7:04 pm

Armed forces unit under fire over special request for Moderna vaccine

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... na-vaccine

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Post by Stantheman » July 24, 2021, 9:45 pm

Doodoo wrote:
July 24, 2021, 7:04 pm
Armed forces unit under fire over special request for Moderna vaccine

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... na-vaccine
Simple explanation, the Thai military know the Sinovac is crap and wants something that might actually protect their members, and families.

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Post by Laan Yaa Mo » July 25, 2021, 4:46 am

Stantheman wrote:
July 24, 2021, 9:45 pm
Doodoo wrote:
July 24, 2021, 7:04 pm
Armed forces unit under fire over special request for Moderna vaccine

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... na-vaccine
Simple explanation, the Thai military know the Sinovac is crap and wants something that might actually protect their members, and families.
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Post by noosard » July 25, 2021, 7:29 am

The Government Pharmaceutical Organization (GPO) has signed a contract with Zuellig Pharma Thailand to purchase 5 million doses of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, which are all expected to arrive before the end of the first quarter of 2022.
GPO director-general Dr. Witoon Danwiboon said the Thai Red Cross Society, and all hospitals who wish to use the Moderna vaccine, have paid the full amount for the doses they have been allotted. The GPO, in turn, has paid in full to make sure that the vaccine arrives on time.

Note the date of expected delivery

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Post by DuiDui49 » July 25, 2021, 7:57 am

noosard wrote:
July 25, 2021, 7:29 am
The Government Pharmaceutical Organization (GPO) has signed a contract with Zuellig Pharma Thailand to purchase 5 million doses of the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine, which are all expected to arrive before the end of the first quarter of 2022.
GPO director-general Dr. Witoon Danwiboon said the Thai Red Cross Society, and all hospitals who wish to use the Moderna vaccine, have paid the full amount for the doses they have been allotted. The GPO, in turn, has paid in full to make sure that the vaccine arrives on time.

Note the date of expected delivery
I think it's a typo by GPO,if not..well..atleast hope it is a typo.

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Post by Drunk Monkey » July 25, 2021, 8:26 am

Weighing in at 101 kgs and now almost fully recouperated after a recent cave diving incident just catching up on UM info , goss n banter

Ref moderna so what was
October 21 delivery
then
November 21
then
4th quarter 21
appears now to be
before the end first quarter 22 ( up to March 31st)

Any members had any contact from BKKUD hospital ?? its good to be kept informed

Pfizer 20 mil arriving before the end of 4th quarter 21 .. ?? to be used for front line medical workers =D> =D> ... with the remainder snaffled by the usual hisos , army , sandbox locations , oldies ,fatties and lasses up the duff .. many of whom had already had the useless Sinovac jab but will need another different vac as a second or even third jab in some cases where ppl have already had 2 sinovac shots .

So far the vaccine roll out has been a disaster and twood appear the young , slim handsome and non pregnant are doomed doomed !!.. im worried as i fit all those criteria :shock:

Flip flopping , obvious corruption , changing restrictions and lurching from one shambles n clusterfook the the next it seems the numbers being announced daily are at best guess work although its pretty clear local authourities are doing the best they can... the Banna Klong district cluster behind Nadee Tescos was 64 cases yet didnt show in the Udon numbers Unless i missed it... and now a bed shortage means home isolation for mild sufferers which isnt gonna help stop the spread.

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Post by newtovillagelife » July 25, 2021, 10:55 am

Sinovac useless?? Seems to be working well in China.

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Post by Drunk Monkey » July 25, 2021, 11:06 am

newtovillagelife wrote:
July 25, 2021, 10:55 am
Sinovac useless?? Seems to be working well in China.
Yeah strange that isnt it ... they got Delta in China ??

im lead to believe Sinovac is ok against the bog standard first covid variant alleged to have started in China but not all variants including the Indian hence forth its usefulness is questionable depending on where one is located ..also later as to what vaccine can be matched up if one has already had a sinovac first jab.

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Post by tamada » July 25, 2021, 12:14 pm

Laan Yaa Mo wrote:
July 25, 2021, 4:46 am
Stantheman wrote:
July 24, 2021, 9:45 pm
Doodoo wrote:
July 24, 2021, 7:04 pm
Armed forces unit under fire over special request for Moderna vaccine

https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/ge ... na-vaccine
Simple explanation, the Thai military know the Sinovac is crap and wants something that might actually protect their members, and families.
You nailed it lol
You are all wrong but for the right reasons.

Because it's a superior vaccine to the current alternatives, they will make an absolute bloody fortune selling it on to the highest bidder who actually DOES care for the health and well being of their families. Suggesting that the army, especially THIS army, has any sort of compassion or empathy for anything with a pulse is a bit of a stretch. They may even sell it to their counterparts in Myanmar first.

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Post by Doodoo » July 25, 2021, 8:58 pm

Places that are risky for catchng Covid

https://www.eatthis.com/covid-19-high-r ... n=msn-feed

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