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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by AlexO » June 10, 2021, 9:48 pm

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Sick of arguing with you. Last post on the subject, will bow to most of the UM members who recognise you as a racist. Keep trying to insult me, just makes you look worse. Bye Pratt.
19 posts from you later, here we are. :?
I was really hoping that you would stop being a racist , but even losing to UM who demonstrates a level of intelligence far superior to yours, you keep just nipping away trying to deny your a racist. People forget its not just white V black. Plus you lose every argument about origins. Go try and win the SAS argument now.



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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 10, 2021, 10:45 pm

Just because someone criticises a country and some of its policies, does not make that person a racist. jackspratt is not a racist and I don't understand why you keep trying to trying to push that argument. Apart from you, I doubt anyone here thinks that he is racist. As far as the recent action between Israel and Hamas is concerned, I side with Israel.
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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by rick » June 12, 2021, 7:29 am

How Israel's ethnic cleansing of Palestine continues.....

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-27883685

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

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Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 13, 2021, 3:13 am

Hatred against Jews is on the rise in Canada too. Last week a crazed Canadian drove his truck into a family of Pakistani Muslims out for a walk, and killed four. During the memorial for the family an Imam got up to tell the audience, including Canadian political leaders, that the tragedy had links to Israel's actions in Palestine. Not one of the political leaders said a word later on about the speech. So much for fostering unity, so much for peace.

https://www.cp24.com/news/unacceptable- ... -1.5453690

https://thecjn.ca/london-imams-inflamma ... l-murders/
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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

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Similar to yourself I had the benefit of a Scottish education, a system largely admired throughout the educated world until it was virtually destroyed by the Labour and SNP socialist views of dumbing down to the lowest common denominator.
I fully understand what Racist and anti-Semite means and also that in my view Pratty ticks all the required boxes.
Hope you are getting your room boy trained up and you are starting to relax a little more.

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So much for fostering unity, so much for peace.
those of the evil left and terrorists do not seek peace . they seek submission .
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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by jackspratt » June 14, 2021, 9:53 pm

AlexO wrote:
June 13, 2021, 4:57 am

Tam
Similar to yourself I had the benefit of a Scottish education, a system largely admired throughout the educated world .....

I fully understand what Racist and anti-Semite means and also that in my view Pratty ticks all the required boxes.
So it is apparent you were absent when the English Comprehension and Critical Thinking classes were being taught.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by tamada » June 15, 2021, 10:42 am

jackspratt wrote:
June 14, 2021, 9:53 pm
AlexO wrote:
June 13, 2021, 4:57 am

Tam
Similar to yourself I had the benefit of a Scottish education, a system largely admired throughout the educated world .....

I fully understand what Racist and anti-Semite means and also that in my view Pratty ticks all the required boxes.
So it is apparent you were absent when the English Comprehension and Critical Thinking classes were being taught.
Scottish Certificate of Education (I have a few myself) listed English teaching and examination as having three components.

Spelling
Interpretation
Comprehension

Nobody is "taught" Critical Thinking except maybe in Chinese schools.

PS: Mr Smith, Peterhead Academy English department circa 1970 was(n't) a lefty and Lorraine Adams (Class 1F1) had big tits for her age.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by tamada » June 15, 2021, 9:17 pm

Udon Map wrote:
June 13, 2021, 1:41 am
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Sorry I can't find a handy graphic right now but how about the guy mowing down the Muslim family on a sidewalk in Canada with his truck last week or the machine gunning at the mosques in New Zealand or the vehicle attack on the mosque in London before that? I know that these attacks were not perpetrated by Israel or Jews but they don't have a monopoly on victimhood.

Back on topic. Yes, Hamas is the problem, not the Palestinians. But what on earth has eliminating the LGBTQ hating, misogyny and other vile cultural mores of a whole host of their neighbors have to do with it? By the time you solve that, Israel will have built a whole lot more illegal settlements, the Palestinians still won't have a home and Jews still won't get a good night's sleep.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Udon Map » June 16, 2021, 10:23 am

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Back on topic. Yes, Hamas is the problem, not the Palestinians. But what on earth has eliminating the LGBTQ hating, misogyny and other vile cultural mores of a whole host of their neighbors have to do with it? By the time you solve that, Israel will have built a whole lot more illegal settlements, the Palestinians still won't have a home and Jews still won't get a good night's sleep.
Palestinians still don't have a home because it suits Hamas' and Abbas' agenda to keep his people as refugees, not because of Israel. Can you name any other people in history who were refugees for multiple generations?

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by tamada » June 16, 2021, 1:42 pm

^ Going for gold are we?

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Post by AlexO » June 16, 2021, 4:19 pm

jackspratt wrote:
June 14, 2021, 9:53 pm
AlexO wrote:
June 13, 2021, 4:57 am

Tam
Similar to yourself I had the benefit of a Scottish education, a system largely admired throughout the educated world .....

I fully understand what Racist and anti-Semite means and also that in my view Pratty ticks all the required boxes.
So it is apparent you were absent when the English Comprehension and Critical Thinking classes were being taught.
Come on Pratty
Tell us how they taught you "critical thinking" in your school days.
Was it just pick up a certain news rag and watch a certain TV channel, believe everything they say and defend your self even when the vast majority are laughing at you and your pathetic excuses.
I used to believe "critical thinking" was a development of free speech and thought but obviously you were taught differently.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Udon Map » June 16, 2021, 6:18 pm

Udon Map wrote:
June 16, 2021, 10:23 am
tamada wrote:
June 15, 2021, 9:17 pm
Back on topic. Yes, Hamas is the problem, not the Palestinians. But what on earth has eliminating the LGBTQ hating, misogyny and other vile cultural mores of a whole host of their neighbors have to do with it? By the time you solve that, Israel will have built a whole lot more illegal settlements, the Palestinians still won't have a home and Jews still won't get a good night's sleep.
Palestinians still don't have a home because it suits Hamas' and Abbas' agenda to keep his people as refugees, not because of Israel. Can you name any other people in history who were refugees for multiple generations?
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^ Going for gold are we?
I thought not. When the Jews fleeing Europe arrived in Israel, they were refugees. And what did they do? Attack their neighbors? Remain in refugee camps for decades as victims? No, they built what is arguably one of the most successful countries in the world, leading in so many areas of science, medicine, water, etc.

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Post by tamada » June 16, 2021, 7:30 pm

Oh dear, sounds like (mid)east America tub-thumping. Being unable to share what they agreed to do share, while manipulating the 'freedoms' they gave the Palestinians, all this and more while being given the quiet nod of approval from head office. No. They used terror tactics to forge their homeland.

At the risk of taking it even further off topic, good luck with getting Bibi out of the big house.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20210 ... residence/

He also boycotted the incumbent's inauguration, failed to do any sort of formal handover and denied them access to national security briefings. Sounds like just another right wing idiot wrapped up in his own hubris. The right versus the righter-than-right. Good luck with that.

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Deleted - the thread doesn't need to be taken further off topic by a vast majority of one. :?

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

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Oh dear, sounds like (mid)east America tub-thumping. Being unable to share what they agreed to do share, while manipulating the 'freedoms' they gave the Palestinians, all this and more while being given the quiet nod of approval from head office. No. They used terror tactics to forge their homeland.
No, actually they ARE sharing. Arabs are in Israeli government at every level, right up to the Supreme Court. They are professors in universities, physicians in hospitals. And how are Israelis doing in Gaza? Oh, yeah, they aren't allowed in Gaza. But it's Israel that maintains the apartheid society, right? :roll:

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Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 17, 2021, 9:20 am

The following was written by a student at the University of Toronto, 'The Jewish people NEVER LEFT their land.
Only some of them left in the diaspora of 70AD.
Even in the 19th Century, during the oppressive Ottoman Empire rule, the majority of the people that lived in the area were Jewish.
They paid a for of protection money, much like that paid to mafias even today, so that they could live in relative peace.
That was called the Jizya tax.
Many Jews in Russia and other East European countries wanted to escape from the pogroms, and saved all the money they could, collecting money into community funds, to buy land in Israel(their terms).
The Ottoman Empire authorities laughed, and sold them worthless desert.
Some managed to get homes in Jerusalem, with the assistance of local Jewish people who always lived there.
When the Ottoman Empire collapsed, and the British Protectorate was in operation, no one was paid to keep antisemitic Arabs from persecuting the Jews.. and stealing land and homes from them.
This is where many of the fraudulent claims of Arab people, on stolen property, comes from.
The persecution got worse.
The Jewish communities then formed their own defence groups, and fought back.
The British Mandate became a low-level civil war, and ungovernable.
Both Arabs and Jewish operatives attacked the British authorities as well as each other.

After WWII, the survivors of the Holocaust had nowhere else to go, but their traditional, spiritual and legal home... The Holy Land.
They returned, even though the British authorities tried to stop them... they saw it as just making the crisis worse.

Then the UN stepped in, to do the right thing.

Through a vote in the UN, Israel was given the right to form as their own country..
The British Mandate was divided into two parts.
The East side of the Jordan, much larger, was given to the Arabs, and is the real "Palestine"... Jordan.

The West side was mostly given to the Jewish people.
This is by international law.
At the formation of the modern state, all surrounding Arab countries immediately went to war, to exterminate the Jews.
The Mufti of Jerusalem even called for all Arabs to evacuate homes adjacent to the Jewish communities, in order to make it easier for Arab forces to murder all of the Jews.
The Israeli state survived.

The "Right of Return" is Arab madness.
Would you prefer that Ted Bundy lived next to your house?
Nevertheless, the Jews, now referred to as Israelis, DID allow most of the Arabs to return.
20% of all Israelis and Muslims.
They even serve in the IDF.

Four more wars and Israel still survived...
No, they certainly didn't start the wars.
Winning wars and staying alive is not a war crime.
The war crimes and real Genocide would have happened, had they lost.

Along came Arafat, in the 1950's, and 1960's.
He was a violent criminal and a failure, but he managed to take a Jordanian flag, removed the symbol from the triangle part, and and declared the state of Palestine.
The problem with that is that there never was a state of Palestine, until Israel allowed it, when they withdrew from Gaza in 2007.
Israel has tried land for peace before.
It worked with Egypt, in 1981, with the return of the Sinai (which is larger than the entire country of Israel) for a peace deal.
This was tried again in 2007, with Gaza and 90% of the West Bank.
That didn't work.

The Palestinians don't want peace.

"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free", basically means that they want ALL of the land, and they want to exterminate 8.5 million Israelis, including the 20% of the population that are Muslims, and the other part, Christians.

The Knesset is a Parliamentary system government, similar to the British or Canadian Parliaments.
It has a government side and an opposition side.
Muslim MPs sit in both sides of the parliament.
It is far more free than the HAMAS totalitarian government of Gaza.

Now, to the latest crisis...
Five houses where Muslim squatters took over homes belonging to Jewish people, suddenly refused to continue paying the rent.
Like anyone, anywhere else in the world, if you don't pay your rent, you get evicted.
Those families could easily just rent a different house, maybe even next door!
They were not banned from living in Jerusalem.

The Al Aqsa mosque has been taken over by violent jihadis, who were using the mosque for a headquarters to attack Israeli police and civilians.

Yet, once again, remember, 20% of the IDF and police are Muslims, too.

Obviously they don't want to destroy the Al Aqsa mosque.

They do, however, obviously want to arrest the jihadis.
The jihadis started the false rumours about the Israelis wanting to destroy the mosque.

HAMAS in Gaza fired THOUSANDS of rockets at Israeli homes and schools.
This time many rockets even reached as far away as Tel Aviv.

Israel has the right to defend themselves.

Or perhaps you would prefer that 8.5 million Israelis simply lie down on the ground and allow HAMAS murderers to kill them, and steal the land that has been theirs for more than 5000 years?
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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

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Laan Yaa Mo wrote:
June 17, 2021, 9:20 am
The following was written by a student at the University of Toronto, 'The Jewish people NEVER LEFT their land.
Only some of them left in the diaspora of 70AD.
Even in the 19th Century, during the oppressive Ottoman Empire rule, the majority of the people that lived in the area were Jewish.
They paid a for of protection money, much like that paid to mafias even today, so that they could live in relative peace.
That was called the Jizya tax.
Many Jews in Russia and other East European countries wanted to escape from the pogroms, and saved all the money they could, collecting money into community funds, to buy land in Israel(their terms).
The Ottoman Empire authorities laughed, and sold them worthless desert.
Some managed to get homes in Jerusalem, with the assistance of local Jewish people who always lived there.
When the Ottoman Empire collapsed, and the British Protectorate was in operation, no one was paid to keep antisemitic Arabs from persecuting the Jews.. and stealing land and homes from them.
This is where many of the fraudulent claims of Arab people, on stolen property, comes from.
The persecution got worse.
The Jewish communities then formed their own defence groups, and fought back.
The British Mandate became a low-level civil war, and ungovernable.
Both Arabs and Jewish operatives attacked the British authorities as well as each other.

After WWII, the survivors of the Holocaust had nowhere else to go, but their traditional, spiritual and legal home... The Holy Land.
They returned, even though the British authorities tried to stop them... they saw it as just making the crisis worse.

Then the UN stepped in, to do the right thing.

Through a vote in the UN, Israel was given the right to form as their own country..
The British Mandate was divided into two parts.
The East side of the Jordan, much larger, was given to the Arabs, and is the real "Palestine"... Jordan.

The West side was mostly given to the Jewish people.
This is by international law.
At the formation of the modern state, all surrounding Arab countries immediately went to war, to exterminate the Jews.
The Mufti of Jerusalem even called for all Arabs to evacuate homes adjacent to the Jewish communities, in order to make it easier for Arab forces to murder all of the Jews.
The Israeli state survived.

The "Right of Return" is Arab madness.
Would you prefer that Ted Bundy lived next to your house?
Nevertheless, the Jews, now referred to as Israelis, DID allow most of the Arabs to return.
20% of all Israelis and Muslims.
They even serve in the IDF.

Four more wars and Israel still survived...
No, they certainly didn't start the wars.
Winning wars and staying alive is not a war crime.
The war crimes and real Genocide would have happened, had they lost.

Along came Arafat, in the 1950's, and 1960's.
He was a violent criminal and a failure, but he managed to take a Jordanian flag, removed the symbol from the triangle part, and and declared the state of Palestine.
The problem with that is that there never was a state of Palestine, until Israel allowed it, when they withdrew from Gaza in 2007.
Israel has tried land for peace before.
It worked with Egypt, in 1981, with the return of the Sinai (which is larger than the entire country of Israel) for a peace deal.
This was tried again in 2007, with Gaza and 90% of the West Bank.
That didn't work.

The Palestinians don't want peace.

"From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free", basically means that they want ALL of the land, and they want to exterminate 8.5 million Israelis, including the 20% of the population that are Muslims, and the other part, Christians.

The Knesset is a Parliamentary system government, similar to the British or Canadian Parliaments.
It has a government side and an opposition side.
Muslim MPs sit in both sides of the parliament.
It is far more free than the HAMAS totalitarian government of Gaza.

Now, to the latest crisis...
Five houses where Muslim squatters took over homes belonging to Jewish people, suddenly refused to continue paying the rent.
Like anyone, anywhere else in the world, if you don't pay your rent, you get evicted.
Those families could easily just rent a different house, maybe even next door!
They were not banned from living in Jerusalem.

The Al Aqsa mosque has been taken over by violent jihadis, who were using the mosque for a headquarters to attack Israeli police and civilians.

Yet, once again, remember, 20% of the IDF and police are Muslims, too.

Obviously they don't want to destroy the Al Aqsa mosque.

They do, however, obviously want to arrest the jihadis.
The jihadis started the false rumours about the Israelis wanting to destroy the mosque.

HAMAS in Gaza fired THOUSANDS of rockets at Israeli homes and schools.
This time many rockets even reached as far away as Tel Aviv.

Israel has the right to defend themselves.

Or perhaps you would prefer that 8.5 million Israelis simply lie down on the ground and allow HAMAS murderers to kill them, and steal the land that has been theirs for more than 5000 years?
Not all correct. After 70 A.D., the Jews were probably the minority in Palestine/Israel. They certainly were by the Byzantine period. The 1850 census done by the Ottomans had only 13,000 Jews, and 327,000 Christians and Muslims. In 1915, there were 38,754 Jews, about 6% of the population. The 1922 census done by the British showed only 12.9% of the population as Jewish (immigration had already begun). In 1931. only 42% of Jews were born in Palestine - the rest were migrants. These facts can be checked here -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demograph ... ine_period

I suspect that Toronto student had a bit of bias to his claims. So, for over 1500 years Jews in Palestine were a small minority of the population. FACT.

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