The U.K.'s Christmas Election

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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by joudon » December 15, 2019, 7:09 pm

How many f.....g referendums do you want? Cameron called the UK 2016 referendum a once in a generation vote. Similarly Alex Salmon made the same comments, but went further... ' referendum results must be honored.
A generation is commonly excepted to be between 25 and 30 years. NOT 4 and a half years.



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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by jackspratt » December 15, 2019, 7:45 pm

Sateeb wrote:
December 15, 2019, 6:56 pm
jackspratt wrote:
December 15, 2019, 9:44 am
Applying that logic, 29 million of the 46 million registered voters in the UK (ie 63%) did not vote for Brexit in 2016.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_o ... referendum
So they voted to remain? :-k
Read the entire post. :roll:

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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by tamada » December 15, 2019, 9:56 pm

joudon wrote:
December 15, 2019, 7:09 pm
How many f.....g referendums do you want? Cameron called the UK 2016 referendum a once in a generation vote. Similarly Alex Salmon made the same comments, but went further... ' referendum results must be honored.
A generation is commonly excepted to be between 25 and 30 years. NOT 4 and a half years.
So a reluctant Unionist and a fervent Nationalist both laid claim to a rather selfish and increasingly impractical concept that only THEIR generation has the right to elicit opinion on fundamental constitutional change?

Outwith the Brexit debacle, the sheer dynamics of global changes suggests that pontifically claiming the singular right to decide on something so profound is just so much statesmanlike but ultimately empty posturing.

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Post by Drunk Monkey » December 17, 2019, 1:54 am

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Post by Barney » December 17, 2019, 8:14 am

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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by Drunk Monkey » December 17, 2019, 9:04 am

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NOW LETS GET BREXIT DONE and take over the world .. no wonder the French n Jermans are nipping their collective arseS ,

RULE BRITAINIA
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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by AlexO » December 17, 2019, 9:18 am

jackspratt wrote:
December 15, 2019, 9:44 am
AlexO wrote:
December 14, 2019, 5:21 pm
The wee shepherdess was voted for by slightly less than 1.25 million voters in Scotland from a voter base of 4.3 million. So effectively 3million + people did not vote for independence. This will be reflected if they ever have another referendum.
Applying that logic, 29 million of the 46 million registered voters in the UK (ie 63%) did not vote for Brexit in 2016.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_o ... referendum
Agree with your extrapolation of the figures, I was pointing out that while the SNP have had a good general election and have won back a few seats that they lost in 2017 in my humble opinion they did because as in England, Labour Scotland has almost become unelectable. When have you ever seen just one Labour MP from Scotland. The 3 million plus voters who did not vote for the SNP and some who did will take a different view when the breakup of the UK and Monarchy is the question. Again just my humble opinion.

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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by tamada » December 17, 2019, 11:27 am

Reading on how Johnson is planning to enshrine his 11-month, 'no dithering' EU trade deal-making edict in law, I can already hear the natives over in the ever lovely Gina Miller's camp getting restless.

The erstwhile, undercover Remainers and the EU both claim that the Conservative's stated intent to get a deal done quickly is quite impossible. But beyond the will to deliver, consider what else is needed to make such a comprehensive, win-win deal. Bureaucrats, pencil necks, paper shufflers, translators, lawyers of various flavors, trade experts, academics, business and industry mandarins and a whole lot of coffee.

It is a lot of work but between the UK and the EU, there are pretty much infinite resources in all these areas of expertise and plenty places for them to meet. Rather than wringing their hands and suggesting it's all too hard, start identifying and hiring the specialists required to support this very necessary exercise in ensuring mutually agreed international trade.

And that goes for you as well Boris!

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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by tamada » December 19, 2019, 6:16 pm

Getting back to the SNP's new referendum call based solely on the number of constituencies they won. It is deeply flawed logic to call that a mandate for Indyref2 when the actual vote count is analysed instead of seats won.

SNP = 1,242,372

All other parties (excluding the Brexit and Other candidates) = 1,496,316

Even if you add the Brexit Party's 13,243 votes and using the SNP's own, unscientific reasoning as to what constitutes a mandate to possibly leave the Union, more people voted NOT to leave the Union.

I think wee Nicola should haud her wheesht.

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