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Re: Australian federal politics

Post by GT93 » May 23, 2019, 2:17 am

I'm enjoying the post-election analysis. The Washington Post had a number of opinion pieces about the Australian election.

The impression I have is that the Libs have been hopeless in recent years at dealing with the Senate. Hopefully Morrison can now find the right people, presumably a new team, to get things going there.

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Re: Australian federal politics

Post by Essex » June 8, 2019, 7:58 am

I was handing out leaflets for an outstanding (but low profile) independent on election day. Instead of thrusting my material into peoples faces, I would engage them in a conversation starting with 'would you like to vote for a good alternative rather than either of the major parties?

Best response I got was from a woman who said Ýes, it's kinda like choosing between Chlamydia and Syphilis
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Re: Australian federal politics

Post by GT93 » June 9, 2019, 5:20 am

Oh dear. :lol:

I know what she means but perhaps if Morrison or Shorten had some Nana form from their younger days, they might be a bit more in touch with ordinary folks.

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Re: Australian federal politics

Post by Barney » June 9, 2019, 6:30 pm

Essex
I’m sure you have had far worse comments outside handing out paper. But having someone as a last gasp attempt be in your face and give out how to vote cards and attempt to preach the virtues of an individual or party candidates policies outside the voting station on polling day would to me and many of my friends the same as the religious fools turning up to my door and preaching their own self interest. The vast majority of Aussie punters have made up their mind before driving to vote and just want to go and mark the paper and escape. Good for you though in trying to help a candidate.
You appear to have jumped the vessel as a senior member from a rapidly port leaning ship in Labor, perhaps the you saw the writing was on the wall for your party, and without walking away from politics grabbed into an independent. Whom I assume lost as well.
Let’s just see what the government the people wanted can do in the next few years.


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Re: Australian federal politics

Post by jackspratt » June 9, 2019, 8:05 pm

Barney wrote:
June 9, 2019, 6:30 pm

Let’s just see what the government the people wanted can do in the next few years.
Not to put too fine a point on it Barney - they have done SFA in the past 6 years, except pass a multitude of "national security" laws, and destroy the NBN.

So what makes you think anything is going to change? A number of commentators are saying Oz is in the worst economic condition it has been for a couple of decades (GFC excluded), so I don't expect much to change.
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Re: Australian federal politics

Post by Essex » June 11, 2019, 7:12 pm

Barney,

much more complex than that, maybe one day we can catch up over a beer and the truth will be revealed
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Re: Australian federal politics

Post by Essex » June 11, 2019, 7:31 pm

joudon wrote:
May 19, 2019, 9:21 am
Good on the Aussies. As everywhere else in the world , Labor( socialists ) usually spell disaster. For the Socialist die hards, you could always move to the socialist utopia of Venezuela.
Joudon, WTF!

go do some research before making such an incredibly ill informed statement. The ALP is not socialist one little bit.

- It deregulated the banking sector
- it brought in regulations to eliminate wildcat union strikes
- It virtually eliminated tariffs to encourage free trade
- it froze doll payments
- it opened up the airline industry for foreign airlines
- it allowed International banks to open in OZ
- It freed up labour laws
- it made the Central bank independent from the government
- it privatised Qantas
- It privatised Telstra
- it reduced government spending from 23+% of GDP to around 20% of GDP

the list goes own

What part of 'Socialist' are you referring to? You plainly do not have a clue.
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Re: Australian federal politics

Post by Barney » June 11, 2019, 8:44 pm

Essex wrote:Barney,

much more complex than that, maybe one day we can catch up over a beer and the truth will be revealed
No worries Essex

I have been a little bit of everything.
Letter box dropping for my now departed uncle a NSW state ALP member. Followed loyalty the family in voting ALP. Unionist in my younger days. But did not go to the dark side like some friends.
Now leaning to the right. Have become more selfish as I have grown.
But beers and politics don’t mix. So a more mundane conversation may be required.


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Re: Australian federal politics

Post by Essex » June 12, 2019, 7:28 pm

As Schultz said, interesting, verrrry interesting Joudon no longer exists.
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Re: Australian federal politics

Post by Essex » June 12, 2019, 7:42 pm

[quote I have been a little bit of everything.
Letter box dropping for my now departed uncle a NSW state ALP member. Followed loyalty the family in voting ALP. Unionist in my younger days. But did not go to the dark side like some friends.
Now leaning to the right. Have become more selfish as I have grown.
But beers and politics don’t mix. So a more mundane conversation may be required.


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Hi Barney,

While involved with the party, I was not a rusted on ALP man, I even voted for Howard to get rid of the silly old wholesale tax and replace it with the GST. I went labor on social issues, but was fairly conservative on fiscal matters. Have to confess, I am a bleeding heart far lefty on racism and refugees.

When involved, I was more interested with local issues, and the local Liberal president was a top rate guy. We often combined forces on local needs and had a good hit rate. Helped get funding for cancer research, a new palliative care unit, upgrade intersections, new High School, ramps for disabled, lifts for disabled at local rail stations etc, that sort of stuff. Of course we came to the centre from different vectors, but were both centralists.

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