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Re: ClimateGate busts things wide open

Post by GT93 » June 1, 2019, 10:17 am

We all need to do something. OK, old codgers won't be affected much but I plan on being around another 30 years. Perhaps even on the Map. I'm expecting big changes in climate in that time.



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Post by glalt » June 1, 2019, 10:24 am

There has been a lot of research as to how to keep birds away from windmills. Unfortunately the best methods are too expensive. A cheap effective method is sound waves that humans cannot hear, That sound disrupts the birds method of communication and makes them avoid those danger areas. The problem will eventually be solved if people care enough. During my last trip home to Ohio I was surprised to see hundreds of these windmills. I actually walked under one of those monsters and could barely hear the noise that people complain about. The power companies contracted for these huge wind machines but since fracking was developed, they are trying to get out of their long term contracts because natural gas is cheaper. Another sore spot is that most of those huge wind farms are foreign owned.

Like it or not. those wind farms are a CLEAN source of energy and people still complain about them.

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Post by tamada » June 10, 2019, 10:38 pm

Scottish Power!

Batteries not included... for now.

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Post by Lone Star » June 25, 2019, 9:16 am

The more things change, the more things stay the same. Image
Yes thinking algae blooms killing off lakes must be good because it's green, here's a whacky idea.
Except no one in this thread ever said that an amount of algae large enough to kill off lakes would be good. Winning an argument that isn't being made #1.
As a lot of marine life will die off perhaps we should just pollute the seas more, turn them green too.
Except no one ever called for polluting the seas. Winning an argument that isn't being made #2.
. strange how denialists who say man cannot change the climate jump on a NASA report on how the Co2 WE have pumped into the atmosphere and try to make out WE have changed the climate for the better
Except no one ever said that man cannot affect the climate. The issue is what, how and how much. Winning an argument that isn't being made #3.
So for all you "plants reap the benefits of Co2" realise this , the plants cannot benefit just on Co2, they also will need more NPK, they also need more sunlight, and to top it off more fresh water
Except no one ever claimed that plants benefit only on CO2. Winning an argument that isn't being made #4.

Winning arguments that no one else is making. It's what Believers do. There's enough straw men here to protect all of the corn fields in the State of Nebraska.
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Post by TJ » June 25, 2019, 1:54 pm

Here is one more scientific report that proves that the sea level is neither significantly rising nor decreasing. One can only hope that people finally recognize that AGW is a major hoax.

Abstract: Over the past decades, detailed surveys of the Pacific Ocean atoll islands show no sign of drowning because of accelerated sea-level rise. Data reveal that no atoll lost land area, 88.6% of islands were either stable or increased in area, and only 11.4% of islands contracted. The Pacific Atolls are not being inundated because the sea level is rising much less than was thought. The average relative rate of rise and acceleration of the 29 long-term-trend (LTT) tide gauges of Japan, Oceania and West Coast of North America, are both negative, −0.02139 mm yr−1 and −0.00007 mm yr−2 respectively. Since the start of the 1900s, the sea levels of the Pacific Ocean have been remarkably stable.

https://geoinfo.amu.edu.pl/qg/current/q ... 9-0007.pdf

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Post by Lone Star » June 28, 2019, 1:29 pm

Outstanding announcement from the US Energy Information Administration . Renewable energy production, through wind and solar, provided 23% of America's electricity. Renewables surpassed coal-fired generation for the first time.

Coal only provided 20% of US electricity.
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Post by jackspratt » June 28, 2019, 1:39 pm

The good news is that positive things can still happen in the US, despite Trump. [-(
The Trump administration is again seeking severe cuts to the U.S. Energy Department division charged with renewable energy and energy efficiency research, according to a department official familiar with the plan.

The official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy would see its $2.3 billion budget slashed by about 70 percent, to $700 million, under President Donald Trump’s fiscal 2020 budget request, which is set to be released on Monday.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... gy-funding
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Post by yartims » June 30, 2019, 3:03 am

Doomsday? Scientists say humanity could be wiped out from the planet in the next 3 decades
As per the research report, the atmospheric conditions in the coming decades could be too deadly, and it will bring a doomsday scenario to the planet.

A few days back, during an exhibit at the Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History in Washington DC had claimed that the atmospheric conditions in the modern world are very similar to the scenario during the 'Great Dying' moments that happened 250 million years ago. Now, climate scientists David Spratt and Ian Dunlop have sensationally claimed that climate change is going to pose an existential threat to humans in the coming decades.

As per these climate researchers, humans will not survive past 2050 if the atmospheric temperature rises by three degree Celsius. These researchers also predict that 55 percent of the world's populations across 35 percent of its land area will experience more than 20 days of deadly heat in the coming decades.

Spratt and Dunlop made these remarks on their report named 'Existential climate-related security risk: A scenario approach'. In the report, researchers revealed that this increase in atmospheric temperature will result in the collapse of the ecosystem, and thus humanity will face the chaos of all times.

"A number of ecosystems collapse, including coral reef systems, the Amazon rainforest and in the Arctic. Some poorer nations and regions, which lack the capacity to provide artificially-cooled environments for their populations, become unviable. Deadly heat conditions persist for more than 100 days per year in West Africa, tropical South America, the Middle East, and South-East Asia, contributing to more than a billion people being displaced from the tropical zone," wrote the researchers in the study report, Express.co.uk reports.

The research report also added that the scale of destruction that will be inflicted by climate change is so deadly, and it will undoubtedly bring about a doomsday scenario to the earth.

In the meantime, Curtis Deutsch, a researcher at the University of Washington has claimed that animals living in the equatorial region are more likely to survive when compared to living beings in the polar region. As per Deutsch, equatorial animals can move towards the polar region in search of a cooler atmosphere, but animals in the polar region will find it hard to discover extremely cool areas to dwell.

https://www.ibtimes.co.in/doomsday-scie ... des-799017
https://www.iflscience.com/environment/ ... -30-years/
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Post by yartims » June 30, 2019, 3:54 am

https://www.iflscience.com/environment/ ... -30-years/

2020-2030

Governments fail to act on the evidence that the Paris Agreement isn't enough to keep Earth's temperature from rising, and will "lock in at least 3°C of warming". As projected by previous studies, carbon dioxide levels have reached 437 parts per million, which hasn't been seen in the last 20 million years. The planet warms by 1.6°C (2.8°F).

2030-2050

Emissions peak in 2030 and are reduced. However, carbon cycle feedbacks and the continued use of fossil fuels see temperatures rise by 3°C (5.4°F) by 2050.

2050

By 2050 there's a scientific consensus that we reached the tipping point for ice sheets in Greenland and the West Antarctic well before 2°C (3.6°F) of warming, and for widespread permafrost at 2.5°C (4.5°F). A "Hothouse Earth" scenario plays out that sees Earth's temperatures doomed to rise by a further 1°C (1.8°F) even if we stopped emissions immediately.

At this point the human impact is off the scale. Fifty-five percent of the global population are subject to more than 20 days a year of lethal heat conditions beyond that which humans can survive. North America suffers extreme weather events including wildfires, drought, and heatwaves. Monsoons in China fail, the great rivers of Asia virtually dry up, and rainfall in central America falls by half.

Deadly heat conditions across West Africa persist for over 100 days a year, and poorer countries are unable to provide enough artificially-cooled environments for their populations to be viable. Food production is severely affected, and inadequate to feed the global population. More than a billion people are displaced.

The knock-on consequences affect national security, as the scale of the challenges involved, such as pandemic disease outbreaks, are overwhelming. Armed conflicts over resources may become a reality, and have the potential to escalate into nuclear war.

In the worst case scenario, a scale of destruction the authors say is beyond their capacity to model, there is a "high likelihood of human civilization coming to an end".
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Post by Lone Star » June 30, 2019, 5:26 am

yartims wrote:
June 30, 2019, 3:54 am
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In the worst case scenario, a scale of destruction the authors say is beyond their capacity to model, there is a "high likelihood of human civilization coming to an end".
Well, NOW is the chance that Believers need to prove that they know what they are talking about. That's much more than the 11.5 years left of the 12 year prediction of the world ending.

If they're so sure it's going to happen, they must know HOW it's going to happen. Get busy now and tell us HOW you're going to slow, stop or reverse these claims -- specifically. Tell us how much it will cost and the measurable results of your efforts. There's decades left to prove your mettle. We're all rooting for you!
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Post by Giggle » June 30, 2019, 5:35 am

They need the money up front. An indulgence, if you will.

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