EU in or out? Brexit: The Movie

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Re: EU in or out? Brexit: The Movie

Post by GT93 » May 13, 2019, 2:09 am

Theresa May's prediction for 2018 (in Zid's post) was spectacularly astray. She's not good at reading the tea leaves. It's a shame there isn't someone else standing out who looks as if he or she could do much better.

I think the Brits need to be careful they don't catch the American disease where your ideological tribe is more important than in the British case being British. That makes having a well functioning government very difficult.

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Re: EU in or out? Brexit: The Movie

Post by TJ » May 13, 2019, 6:03 am

Brexit party may get more EU election votes than Tories and Labour combined – poll

"Nigel Farage’s Brexit party is on course to secure more support at the European elections than the Tories and Labour combined, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer.

In the most striking sign to date of surging support for Farage, the poll suggests more than a third of voters will back him on 23 May. It puts his party on 34% of the vote, with less than a fortnight before the election takes place.

The poll suggests support for the Conservatives has collapsed amid the Brexit uncertainty, with Theresa May’s party on just 11%. Labour is a distant second, on 21%. The Lib Dems perform the best of any of the openly anti-Brexit parties, one point ahead of the Tories on 12% of the vote."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/ ... bined-poll

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Re: EU in or out? Brexit: The Movie

Post by karonsteve » May 13, 2019, 3:37 pm

TJ wrote:
May 13, 2019, 6:03 am
In the most striking sign to date of surging support for Farage,
It isn't necessarily support of Farage it is just a lack of any other credible option to replace the Tories.
Sad isn't it?

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Post by joudon » May 13, 2019, 4:19 pm

I have been back in Udon now for 2 weeks after almost 2 months in UK.I believe the support for Farage is very strong from what I have read and heard, and certainly not just a protest because there is no credible alternative. Parliament as a whole, including many vile non entities in the House of Lords, have thwarted the result of a fair referendum, and people are getting very angry. If as it is likely, the Brexit party do very well in the EU elections, that is to say that their % of the vote exceeds the combined vote of the remain parties, i.e Lib Dems, Greens, SNP, Change , then it will be the facto 2nd referendum that all the Europhiles have been clamoring for since they were soundly beaten in the referendum in 2016.

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Re: EU in or out? Brexit: The Movie

Post by AlexO » May 13, 2019, 6:00 pm

karonsteve wrote:
May 13, 2019, 3:37 pm
TJ wrote:
May 13, 2019, 6:03 am
In the most striking sign to date of surging support for Farage,
It isn't necessarily support of Farage it is just a lack of any other credible option to replace the Tories.
Sad isn't it?
You are misreading how angry a huge number of people in the UK are. Farage has launched a new party because the established (establishment) parties have shown over the last 3 years just how out of touch they are with normal people (you know the ones that work, pay taxes etc.) Self indulgent, self serving, public school attending, profession politicians who really don't care about the Country are in for a big wake up call. All of what we call the mainstream parties are now infested by these halfwits.

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Re: EU in or out? Brexit: The Movie

Post by yartims » May 14, 2019, 7:51 pm

now the house of lords are planning to remove passes to parliament for MEPs as theyre so terrified..brexit are plannning on dismantling the house of lords if they can get into power somewhere sometime
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Re: EU in or out? Brexit: The Movie

Post by yartims » May 14, 2019, 7:53 pm

and some bright spark has suggested brexit and tories doing a pact to stay in power which sound sensible as they face obscurity otherwise
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Re: EU in or out? Brexit: The Movie

Post by tamada » May 15, 2019, 12:47 pm

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Topical cartoon c/o The Telegraph

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Re: EU in or out? Brexit: The Movie

Post by arjay » May 16, 2019, 3:35 am

karonsteve wrote:
May 13, 2019, 3:37 pm
TJ wrote:
May 13, 2019, 6:03 am
In the most striking sign to date of surging support for Farage,
It isn't necessarily support of Farage it is just a lack of any other credible option to replace the Tories.
Sad isn't it?
It will in effect be a protest vote, because both the Conservatives and Labour failed to deliver what the people voted for, - Brexit. So, yes, a very significant proportion of "Leavers" will vote for Farage.

"Remainers" are likely to vote Lib Dem or Green parties. As suggested it will in effect be a de facto second referendum.

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Re: EU in or out? Brexit: The Movie

Post by yartims » May 17, 2019, 10:12 pm

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/european-elec ... 11463.html

The latest polling for the European Parliament elections shows that Nigel Farage's Brexit Party is likely to gain the most seats in the UK, as establishment parties are forecast to lose their majority across the European Union.

The vote takes place in the UK on Thursday 23 May, with the Europe-wide results expected on the evening of Sunday 26 May.

These are expected to see establishment parties across the continent suffer, both at the hands of the populist-Right as well as resurgent liberal parties.

The result is likely to be a more fragmented European Parliament, with the centre-Right EPP and centre-Left S&D forecast to lose their combined majority.
UK polls show the Brexit Party winning the most seats

The latest polling average puts Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party ahead of the two major parties, on 30 per cent compared to Labour’s 21 per cent and the Tories’ 12 per cent.
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Re: EU in or out? Brexit: The Movie

Post by yartims » May 17, 2019, 10:14 pm

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... -20-years/

Most Europeans believe that the EU could disintegrate in the next two decades, with three out of ten predicting war could break out on the continent, even though support for Brussels is at its highest for more than 25 years.

Three out of ten Europeans in the 14 countries surveyed in a poll commissioned by the European Council on Foreign Relations think tank said that war between EU countries remained a “realistic possibility”.

The survey found that more than half of people in France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Austria, Slovakia, Romania, Greece, the Czech Republic and Poland said the EU’s collapse was a “realistic possibility
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Re: EU in or out? Brexit: The Movie

Post by yartims » May 17, 2019, 10:39 pm

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/11 ... nd-Juncker

EU MELTDOWN: Brussels issue DAMNING public opinion results ahead of election – 'FED UP'
CITIZENS from across the European Union have issued a damning review on the "meddling" bloc as Brussels braces for the European parliamentary election.

The European Parliament has projected populist and eurosceptic members in Brussels will increase to 14.3 percent from the current 10 percent based upon the expressed within the Eurobarometer survey of surveys.

Factoring Britain’s participation in the May poll, seats eurosceptic parliamentary group Europe of Nations and Freedom (ENF) – which include Marine Le Pen’s National Rally, Italy’s Lega and Poland’s Party of Freedom – would increase from five percent to 8.3 percent.

The other openly eurosceptic bloc, the Europe of Freedom and Direct Democracy (EFDD) would win six percent – benefitting France’s The Patriots, Italy’s Movement 5 Stelle (M5S), Poland’s Korwin and Britain's own Brexit Party.

The European Parliament projection appears to echo sentiments within the European Union from certain groups and individuals from Germany, Poland and Italy who spoke to German broadcaster DW on Tuesday May 14.

READ MORE: EU MELTDOWN: Juncker warns populist could 'INCAPACITATE' Brussels after European elections
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Re: EU in or out? Brexit: The Movie

Post by tamada » May 17, 2019, 11:10 pm

^ ^^ ^^^
It would be a tragic farce if somehow the Remainers prevailed, got their second referendum, won their 'resounding' nod to kill Brexit and thus stayed within an EU that is so fractured, it wants to leave itself.

Maybe it is time for British parliamentarians to have a serious look at what is really inside this can that they insist on kicking down the road.

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Re: EU in or out? Brexit: The Movie

Post by tinpeeba » May 18, 2019, 2:38 am

yartims wrote:
May 17, 2019, 10:14 pm
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... -20-years/

Most Europeans believe that the EU could disintegrate in the next two decades, with three out of ten predicting war could break out on the continent, even though support for Brussels is at its highest for more than 25 years.

Three out of ten Europeans in the 14 countries surveyed in a poll commissioned by the European Council on Foreign Relations think tank said that war between EU countries remained a “realistic possibility”.

The survey found that more than half of people in France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Austria, Slovakia, Romania, Greece, the Czech Republic and Poland said the EU’s collapse was a “realistic possibility
Just as realistic as the possibility for there to be civil war in the USA and the break up of the UK.

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Re: EU in or out? Brexit: The Movie

Post by yartims » May 18, 2019, 5:42 pm

the lisbon treaty is lurking down the road and politicians dont mention it much for some reason :shock:
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