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Re: Income Letter

Post by fdimike » October 11, 2018, 10:24 am

The problem doesn't seem to be with Thai Immigration. The problem seems to be with the British Embassy and maybe others.

I receive this from the USEMB American Citizen Services re: the Income Affidavit.

"...We are currently evaluating options regarding the future provision of this document."
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Re: Income Letter

Post by RLTrader » October 12, 2018, 5:06 pm

fdimike wrote:
October 11, 2018, 10:24 am
The problem doesn't seem to be with Thai Immigration. The problem seems to be with the British Embassy and maybe others.

I receive this from the USEMB American Citizen Services re: the Income Affidavit.

"...We are currently evaluating options regarding the future provision of this document."
Hmm, not good news, Mike.

Noticed embassy seems to be cutting back, now their web site is no longer updated with "OutReach" notices, seems that one needs to depend on the email notice, which I noticed about a year ago, didn't receive one. Fluke? Maybe.

Figure I need just one more to get me to end date, and they are coming next month, fingers crossed.

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Re: Income Letter

Post by fdimike » October 12, 2018, 5:52 pm

RL I'm not sure where you're checking but here's the latest Outreach schedule: https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-se ... r-outreach which is posted on their website.
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Re: Income Letter

Post by runrunshaw » October 12, 2018, 7:53 pm

tomboy wrote:
October 10, 2018, 8:57 pm
my understanding is that the Thai immigration have not instructed the British Embassy to stop these income letters.Will the Immigration now allow us Brits to provide and accept these letters duly signed by a Thai Attorney.i am told that here in Udonthani they have already taken this as a cash reward.
The under counter (most farangs use here) for an illegal retirement visa has now been increased from 16.00 to 20.00 Baht.Good old British Embassy hanging us expats to dry.I will speak with Udonthani immigration as the alternative is to pay them for this service as, again ,I am told, they can give you an under counter visa much cheaper than the lady that accommodates the scores of expats for these illegal visa's.Honest documentation will no longer be required (if you keep your money in an uk bank) so one will have to revert to the Udonthani undercover system of gaining a retirement visa.
CORRUPTION PAY'S!!!
I really dislike banking in Thailand, and prefer to keep the bulk of my money in the States. Other than the fact I'm not retired, that's one reason that years ago, I opted against getting a retirement visa and have renewed my Non-O family visa every 15 months by flying back to Los Angeles.

I leave again at the end of this month. My RT China Southern Airlines ticket cost $435. Add $100 for a RT ticket Udon-Bangkok. At the Thai consulate in LA, it costs $200 for the Non-O 1-year visa (3 months extension no problem). So, in this instance, it's almost the same price to fly home for a new visa than to pay the 20K THB (same price in Pattaya, BTW) for an under-the-table Multiple-entry retirement visa.

That's kind of mind-boggling.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems the Thai are very inventive in the ways they make it hard for farangs to live here, and especially to work and thrive here. Payback for the way we bang the snot out of their women? Nah, it's just greed.
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Re: Income Letter

Post by FrazeeDK » October 12, 2018, 7:56 pm

well, the U.S. Embassy provides a fill in the blank affidavit of income but the only "service" they provide for that letter is a notary stamp for $50 a pop... So, you're not paying for the affidavit of income you're paying for the stamp.... Funny you got an e-mail saying they're looking at it, I'm on their mailing list but didn't get anything.. Selective transmission by them?
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Re: Income Letter

Post by fdimike » October 12, 2018, 8:00 pm

The reason I received an email from the embassy was because I sent an email asking them about the issue. they were kind enough to reply.
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Re: Income Letter

Post by FrazeeDK » October 12, 2018, 8:12 pm

thanks.. that's enlightening..
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Re: Income Letter

Post by RLTrader » October 12, 2018, 10:15 pm

fdimike wrote:
October 12, 2018, 5:52 pm
RL I'm not sure where you're checking but here's the latest Outreach schedule: https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-se ... r-outreach which is posted on their website.
Right, but before as the date nears, before you could click on it and it would give all the info like date, time, and where. What was offered and how much. If you look at the link you will notice that CHIANG RAI: September 2018 gives No Info. So unless you got the info somewhere else, you know none of the above.
To me that is a cut back. Saw a post somewhere that to get the full info you needed to get the email notice. Sure someone will post here on this site, when the email goes out. Most of us will need the day and time along with where and how much to pay, which needs to be a draft from a bank.

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Re: Income Letter

Post by fdimike » October 13, 2018, 7:18 am

RL understand now what you're talking about. However if you read further it says: "Specific times and locations are released 10-14 days prior to each Outreach event through the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP). STEP is a free service of the U.S. Department of State Bureau of Consular Affairs which allows U.S. citizens traveling and living abroad to receive important information by enrolling with their nearest Embassy or Consulate. If you would like to receive specific dates and times of our Outreach Events, please register for STEP at https://step.state.gov/step/."

I don't see any cutback at all. It looks like they're trying to get more US citizens enrolled in their STEP program.
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Re: Income Letter

Post by mak » October 13, 2018, 7:24 am

https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-se ... vice-fees/
I would imagine the Udon Outreach will occur during the first week of November and the Phuket Outreach during the second week. Thanksgiving being on the fourth week.

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Re: Income Letter

Post by fdimike » October 13, 2018, 7:43 am

RL I just enrolled in the USEMB STEP program. It took about 5 minutes and was easy to do.
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Re: Income Letter

Post by RLTrader » October 13, 2018, 9:47 am

fdimike wrote:
October 13, 2018, 7:18 am
RL understand now what you're talking about. However if you read further it says: "Specific times and locations are released 10-14 days prior to each Outreach event through the Smart Traveler Enrollment Program (STEP). STEP is a free service of the U.S. Department of State Bureau of Consular Affairs which allows U.S. citizens traveling and living abroad to receive important information by enrolling with their nearest Embassy or Consulate. If you would like to receive specific dates and times of our Outreach Events, please register for STEP at https://step.state.gov/step/."

I don't see any cutback at all. It looks like they're trying to get more US citizens enrolled in their STEP program.
Agree, but like I said above somewhere, I didn't receive a notice about a year ago, I think, hard to tell for time flies, even though I am enrolled to receive notices, (STEP?). It might of gotten lost or sent to junk. Was thinking maybe got un-enrolled, but then I started getting them again.

For anyone on Twitter you can follow them there @ACSBKK but not for "Out Reach" but other info on Thailand.

Still say I see Cutbacks for before Trump they came to Udon twice a year, it is now once, this year Nov, and next year we will need to go to KK in Sept or Oct for Udon will be in the Spring, but of course I could be wrong. :lol:

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Re: Income Letter

Post by RLTrader » October 13, 2018, 9:57 am

mak wrote:
October 13, 2018, 7:24 am
https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-se ... vice-fees/
I would imagine the Udon Outreach will occur during the first week of November and the Phuket Outreach during the second week. Thanksgiving being on the fourth week.
Agree that is what it looks like. A wild guess Udon Nov 7th or 9th
The 1st Full week
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Re: Income Letter

Post by Galee » October 13, 2018, 10:33 am

I was in town Thursday so called into immigration to ask what my options were once the British Embassy stop the confirmation of income letter. I was told only one option, letter from the bank showing money in the bank. There will be no more monthly income option. When she then told me I could also get a 30 day extension I began to suspect she didn't have a clue what I was talking about and that I had wasted my time.

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Re: Income Letter

Post by fdimike » October 13, 2018, 12:31 pm

Need to wait to see what develops between Thai Imm and the embassies.
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