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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by fantom » June 24, 2018, 2:00 pm

Have the World Cup referees been instructed to avoid sending anyone off? Boateng's tripping of Berg, the Swedish No9, inside the penalty area early in the 1st half, looked like a straight red card offence but was unpunished: it took two further offences for him to be sent off. And half way through the 2nd half of Switzerland v Serbia, Mitrovic was wrestled to the ground by two Swiss players - I would like to have seen them both red-carded.



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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by stattointhailand » June 24, 2018, 3:36 pm

Have to agree with your assessment of Henderson Mat, how someone who lacks the ability to pass a football in any direction except the one he is facing ever got into an International team is beyond me .......... plus the fact that he is a MONKEY MACKEM of course :-$
I see you are under the impression that Southgate (like many of his predecessors) does not have the ability to accept that he made a mistake and try to correct it .... still going with 2 at the back and Walker. I appreciate that the THREE centre backs he selected do not fill me with enthusiasm, but they are CENTRE BACKS and not wing backs.

Suppose Englands fans will just have to hope and pray ......
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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by mathusalah80 » June 24, 2018, 5:07 pm

stattointhailand wrote:
June 24, 2018, 3:36 pm
I see you are under the impression that Southgate (like many of his predecessors) does not have the ability to accept that he made a mistake and try to correct it .... still going with 2 at the back and Walker. I appreciate that the THREE centre backs he selected do not fill me with enthusiasm, but they are CENTRE BACKS and not wing backs.
I currently remain open minded, as I want to see the team and formation he selects this evening, and also for the fame against Belgium when, hopefully, there will be no pressure on either Manager, and they will likely 'show their hands' as to the decisions they have made as regards the formation and team make up, providing them with the best chance of success.
As regards this 'three at the back' debate, I do think too much by way of semantics is involved. Do I think Southgate is absolutely determined to play with 'THREE CENTRAL DEFENDERS at the back? Definitely. Do I think they will comprise three specialist central defenders, as you clearly consider is essential? No, I don't. My reason? Because I feel certain that Southgate will select Trippier to play as the right sided ,(central?), defender, and also select Walker, (arguably one of the best wing backs in the world) in his established position as the right sided wing back. The other two remaining CENTRAL DEFENDERS are up for grabs, and I can't see Southgate making a final position until after the two remaining group matches have been played. I certainly would not omit Trippier or Walker , ( in my opinion two of the few world class international in this England squad), simply to include a "specialist Central Defender"
But I must admit to the personal hope that Stone is not a first choice, in the first knockout stage game; I get palpitations of the heart every time I see him dithering around in the penalty area, with the ball at his feet, not knowing what to do with it! [-o< :roll: There is also the unfinished business of to select or not select Sterling and/or Alli. Do I think, on balance, Southgate will stubbornly insist on selecting both? Unfortunately, I think the answer is yes. :(
Never mind Statts, at least for another couple of hours, you can make the safe assumption England will reach the knockout stage for the first time in; how many years is it? :D :lol: \:D/

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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by stattointhailand » June 24, 2018, 5:45 pm

Mat we ALWAYS reach the knockout stage ........ we got knocked out in 2014 2010 2006 2002 1998 etc etc etc :lol:

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Post by stattointhailand » June 24, 2018, 6:11 pm

I'm almost hoping he does play Stirling :-$

Not because I think he should be a "starter", but because Southgate is determined to make him a focal point so if he drops him now after one bad display it could effect his performances later in the tourny. Its better to play him again when he can get confidence running past Panama defenders and hope he takes that forward rather than the first "negative" performance.
Walker proved far too many times v Tunisia HE IS NOT A CENTRE BACK and probably never will be
Unfortunate I know, but something that could have been seen well before squad selection :evil:
As such you are then left with a choice of Trippier or Walker for the wing back, and I would choose Trippier due to his better crossing and dead ball work.
Rose HAS to replace Young on the left, and I'd give the gloves to Butland

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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by Zidane » June 24, 2018, 6:50 pm

Loftus-Cheek in for the injured Dele Alli is the only change.
Just when I thought our chance had passed,you go and save the best for last.

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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by stattointhailand » June 24, 2018, 6:52 pm

GROAN .... thank god its only Panama :-$

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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by arjay » June 24, 2018, 7:52 pm

Well, half time: England 5-0 up and justifiably so.

Two from very justifiable penalties. One from a corner kick. One from a free kick (set-piece). One from normal good play.

England players being subject to a great deal of grappling and holding. Disgraceful. Harry Kane and England's no 5 both pulled down in the same incident.

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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by Zidane » June 24, 2018, 7:57 pm

Half Time.....England 5 Panama 0 \:D/
I think its fair to say the first half has gone quite well for England and Panama face an uphill battle to get the point they need to keep their World Cup hopes alive...….
BUT.....a question for our expert panel statto and mat80....
In the first couple of minutes Lingard was elbowed in the face by Panama defender,Gomez,who made no attempt to get the ball [-X For me that was a straight red card....what do you guys think ?
Other than that,I think the referee has done very well......Panama,a pub team on Yabba !

Don't reply straight away as I'm just getting another beer from the fridge....signing off....
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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by stattointhailand » June 24, 2018, 8:01 pm

If England can stay soliid at the back for the first 10 mins after the break, they should be able to hang on for the win

Agree with 2 nd min incident zid ...... I sat here saying where has VAR gone? its the only reason for having it, and they stay quiet when they should be saying "hey ref you need to see this"

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Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 24, 2018, 9:11 pm

Kane for the Golden Boot. Why not?
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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by Zidane » June 24, 2018, 9:14 pm

England 6 Panama 1
Second half was a bit of an anti- climax and England went to sleep after the 6th goal.I thought the 6th was Loftus-Cheeks goal,really,but they've given it to 'Arry !
Cant really complain about that result and even mat80 must be smiling.The only downside was Sterling was average again and if he cant score against this lot.....If Gareth continues to play him he must be hoping he comes good for the Final !
Incidentally,I understand the VAR supervisor was someone called giggle from the USA ! ;)

Coming up at 10pm its Japan v Senegal followed at 1am by vlads favourite team,Poland,against Colombia....could the Poles be on their way out ?
Just when I thought our chance had passed,you go and save the best for last.

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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by stattointhailand » June 24, 2018, 10:19 pm

One of the VAR operators was from US ........ made a note of that before KO.

Only England can win 6 - 1 and leave their fans angry

62 mins gone and they have scored the six goals required to overtake Belgium on GD and thus mean they only need a draw to top the group I'm sitting there saying get a seventh in the last 30 mins to make sure and then even if Pickford does a Pickford we are still ok. But no sit back, pussy around, let Panama have the ball and then let them score (warning came two or three mins before the goal). Now we have to score again but for some reason nobody seemed as if they even realised what they had done, no urgency what so ever and it peters out into a 5 goal victory meaning the group may be decided on disciplinary records now when we had control at 6 -- 0 :evil:
Are the England backroom staff SO STUPID they didnt know? if they did know why not get the players to do something about it?
BTW Pickford once again (in a 6 - 1 win) had me panicking every time the ball went near him [-X
Bring Butland in BEFORE it is too late.

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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by mathusalah80 » June 25, 2018, 6:03 am

Zidane wrote:
June 24, 2018, 9:14 pm
England 6 Panama 1
Cant really complain about that result and even mat80 must be smiling. Wrong on both counts Zid! ](*,) :evil:
The only downside was Sterling was average again..... Sorry Zid, I think his contribution, such as it was, could more aptly be described as embarrassing. :oops:
Incidentally, I understand the VAR supervisor was someone called giggle from the USA ! ;) Please Zid don't encourage that idiot troll, or others like him, onto what is currently an enjoyable troll free thread for football fans

....could the Poles be on their way out ? Sadly, for Viad, the answer us yes. :( But I'm feeling selfishly happy, as Japan was one of my surprise group qualifiers, and it is now looking like they may make it. :D

As to the 'assault' on Lingard in the opening minutes, I do not believe it was missed by the Officials, but that the 'oversight' was a political decision; as was the leniency of the referee to several other exhibitions of the Panamanians wrestling skills, to which he turned a blind eye. Had that approach not been adopted, the match would probably have had to be abandoned, due to the Panama team having an insufficient number of players left on the pitch. :lol: \:D/
Will return tomorrow,( perhaps I should say, later to-day!), Statts, to the intriguing topic of Southgate's future formation and selection plans in relation to his charges.

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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by goodison » June 25, 2018, 7:01 am

Settle down Statts. Won the group on fair play, who'd believe it?

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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by Zidane » June 25, 2018, 7:03 am

An interesting point made by statto as regards Englands next opponents.....they will be one out of Japan,Senegal and Colombia.
Japan look likely to top the group with Senegal or Colombia being runners up.Those two meet in the final group match where Colombia must win but a draw will be enough for Senegal to progress.
Of those three teams I think Japan would suit England best with Colombia being the one to avoid....dangerous opponents now James Rodriguez is back....just my opinion. :-k
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Colombia were very impressive last night in easily beating a disappointing Polish side 3-0.With James Rodriguez back in the side and providing two assists,they were much improved on their display against Senegal.Falcao got the second goal which was his first ever in the World Cup Finals,having missed the 2014 tournament through injury.
Colombia could be very dangerous opponents for England.

In the other game I was surprised that Japan were the better team but they still had to come from behind twice to get a 2-2 draw against Senegal.Japans final game is against the lacklustre Poles and they should top the group.Japans keeper was dodgy again last night which could benefit Englands strikeforce.

An interesting match tonight between hosts Russia and Uruguay (kick off 9pm Thai time).Both have already qualified and both will want to avoid Spain in the last 16,if possible.

Group A matches kick off at 9pm and Group B matches kick off at 1am Tuesday morning over here.The Russians will discover there next opponents then.
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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by 747man » June 25, 2018, 11:36 am

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Columbia V. Mexico ????

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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by stattointhailand » June 25, 2018, 3:49 pm

Why is it whenever England win a match and score a few goals the "experts" and everyone in the media over reacts?

England won YES England scored 6 goals ...... YES, but what else did that display show us?

Even Roberto Martinez the worlds worse defensive coach managed to stop Paraguay scoring England didnt [-X

England managed 6 goals but only mustered 7 shots on target in 90+ mins against Paraguay

Englands 7 on target included 2 pens, 2 headers from set pieces, one deflected shot that Kane knew nothing about, one Stirling "shot" that was about as potent as most back passes and ONE ...... YES ONE goal from open play.... in 90 mins ...... against Paraguay ........ and they are reacting like they did well.

Stirling has now managed 2 goals in 40 internationals and none since Oct 2015.
One goal from open play means the guy passing the ball is obviously not capable (but then we know that Henderson can only pass in the direction he is facing (too often backwards).
Ashley Youngs stand out memories from 2 games is giving away stupid fouls that you would expect someone half his age to avoid making =;

Time for change before its too late,,

Butland at the back will at least give the defence a little bit of confidence
3 proper central defenders (have to make do with Cahill Maguire and Stones though)
Walker to cover for injured Trippier and Rose in for Young (due to the fact that Sessingon and Bertrand are sitting at home)
Dier in midfield as extra cover for weak back three they will need him
Ali & Lingard along with Rashford & Kane up front

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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 25, 2018, 5:07 pm

I thought England thrashed Panama, not Paraguay. Vlad has Poland out, and you have Paraguay in...something about countries that begin with the capital letter 'P' is causing no end of problems for the members. 555
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Re: 2018 World Cup in Russia

Post by Zidane » June 25, 2018, 5:13 pm

stattointhailand wrote:
June 25, 2018, 3:49 pm

Even Roberto Martinez the worlds worse defensive coach managed to stop Paraguay scoring England didnt [-X PANAMA
England managed 6 goals but only mustered 7 shots on target in 90+ mins against Paraguay PANAMA
Englands 7 on target included 2 pens, 2 headers from set pieces, one deflected shot that Kane knew nothing about, one Stirling "shot" that was about as potent as most back passes and ONE ...... YES ONE goal from open play.... in 90 mins ...... against Paraguay ........ and they are reacting like they did well. PANAMA

Stirling STERLING has now managed 2 goals in 40 internationals and none since Oct 2015.
Some good points,statto,but I worry the pressure of being a World Cup pundit is getting to you. :D
1.We played PANAMA not Paraguay,old son.
2.Its STERLING not Stirling.....only a small thing but it could confuse readers from Canada and New Zealand.


Nice pictures 747man.....I recognise the young Colombian lady from the 2014 World Cup....and now she's in Russia ?....in fact she's wearing the same outfit....in fact.....oh... ;)
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