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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Bronco » February 11, 2018, 2:31 pm

I had told myself that I wasn't going to post on this thread anymore but this breaking news is just too big not to share.The biggest political scandal in US history is about to explode.It looks like the first black hat, Bill Priestap(the head of the FBI Counterintelligence operation),has flipped and is cooperating with the investigative authorities.

Here are the first two paragraphs of the article so you might determine if it's worth your time to read the entire article

"The game is over. The jig is up. Victory is certain… the trench was ignited… the enemy funneled themselves into the valley… all bait was taken… everything from here on out is simply mopping up the details. All suspicions confirmed.

Why has Devin Nunes been so confident? Why did all GOP HPSCI members happily allow the Democrats to create a 10-page narrative? All questions are answered."

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... s-stewart/

This writer,Sundance, has broken many big stories but this is the biggest. 3 years and a couple thousand articles and I haven't seen one that's been proven false--so there's that.If you go back in time and find one,I'd sure like to know.

Have a great day,everyday,everyone

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by ytrewq » February 12, 2018, 3:21 am

The budget passed was insane. That's now +$2,000,000,000,000 Vladimir & Co. have added to the deficit and he celebrates the destruction of America by having his Trump puppet borrow (or print) even more money to throw a massive military parade down Pennsylvania Ave.

This is textbook execution of how to destroy America taken from lessons learned when the USSR collapsed. The USSR economy overheated and then "poof". No more USSR.

Jerome Powell was sworn in recently as Fed Chairman. The markets tanked. There are only 3 of 7 Fed governors making Fed policy. Powell and Randal Quarels are both Carlyle Group (Google it along with documentary, or conspiracy, if that is your schtick) boys. Lael Brainard is the only Obama appointee remaining. So, here again, we see Mitch McConnell's long game of obstruction during the Obama era bearing fruit.

Ignore the Russian bots and Trump wackos posting on this thread.

Watch the markets.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by ytrewq » February 12, 2018, 6:32 am

For the undereducated:

Until now, the Fed has been acting responsibly under the stewardship of Obama appointees who held a 2 to 1 majority vote. Now that Yellen has been replaced, the Fed is under the stewardship of Trump appointees with a 2 to 1 majority vote.

To be very clear: Two of Trump's people are effectively running the global economy.

I suspect and expect Brainard may resign soon because there is no point to staying when you are powerless to affect policy. Get out while the getting is still good.

I expect nations will expedite decoupling efforts to mitigate the impact a USD crash or economic retaliation might otherwise have on their domestic economies.

Short the USD and long defense, if you want to profit.

Watch the markets.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by glalt » February 12, 2018, 12:25 pm

Rabid democrats seem to overlook the fact that under Obama the national debt has increased more than any other president in history. Under Trump, an intelligent tax plan will increase the debt more and it will take a year or two for it to bear fruit. Capitalists are greedy, so how do they make more money? That answer is that they expand. How do they keep the most productive employees? That answer is that they pay their employees more money. It should be obvious that if they have to give the government even more money, businesses won't expand. More jobs is a double benefit. They will be paying taxes rather than being on food stamps and welfare.

Don't worry about the markets, just watch the economy of the country. Trump wanted a weaker dollar. That makes exports easier to sell and makes imports more expensive to buy. YES. It hurts the expats but is good for the country's economy. We're a small part of the population.

Trump was a successful businessman and Obama was a community organizer teaching people how to get more benefits from the government tit. Try to remember the definition of insanity. OK, I'll remind you. Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

Socialism is not the answer. Take a look at a formerly wealthy country. Venezuela. The EU is a massive socialist plan and it will eventually fall under its own weight.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by FrazeeDK » February 12, 2018, 7:33 pm

the market assessment of Yellen's replacement is that his monetary policies are almost exactly the same as her's. Expect minor bumps to the interest rate over the next year...
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by ytrewq » February 13, 2018, 7:10 am

Therein lies the mystery. He is a trained lawyer (not economist) who has consistently "gone along" with everything Yellen put forth since 2012 without any dissent whatsoever. He's a "yes man" who must now be the shot-caller. Can he step-up his game, or will Trump fill the vacant seats with in-the-pocket people who will make the policy for Powell to "go along with" too?

Why he was selected is no mystery: easy money. Trump likes easy money. But continuing an easy money policy given the new reality Trump has since created is a peril rather than a panacea. China, Japan, Germany, the general market, etc. are NOT going to want to buy US debt unless interest rates rise. The US can barely afford to make the interest payments now. That's another topic/problem/snafu in and of itself...

I am expecting a series of events between July-September this year which will cascade. Powell will be tested then, if not before then.

Watch the markets (the trend, not day/day snapshots).

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by ytrewq » February 13, 2018, 7:24 am

Here's another relevant subject for this topic:

When will Mueller indict Trump for obstruction of justice, or when will Trump brazenly fire Mueller?

Personally, I would like to see either happen a month or so before voters go to the polls as neither outcome will be good for Republicans.

\:D/

It's also a motivation for Trump to fire him ASAP.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » February 13, 2018, 9:13 am

1. The market trend is well established .The markets always go through huge periods of volatility in every midterm election year since 1962. Market declines have been at least 7.4% in each of the last 28 periods. So far, this decline has registered in the neighborhood of 10%. Nothing really unusual.

2. A POTUS is never indicted by any authority other than Congress in the impeachment process. Mueller may provide his findings to Congress, but that's it.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Stantheman » February 13, 2018, 9:46 am

Lone Star wrote:
February 13, 2018, 9:13 am

2. A POTUS is never indicted by any authority other than Congress in the impeachment process. Mueller may provide his findings to Congress, but that's it.
I must disagree, there is nothing in the constitution baring a President from being indicted. That being said Mueller does not have the authority to indict Trump based on his appointment by the Justice Department and must follow their rules. You must also know an indictment can not remove a President from office, leagally that can only be done by impeachment.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by ytrewq » February 13, 2018, 11:41 am

I opine that given the awesomeness of the legal team Mueller assembled and the meticulous manner in which that team is proceeding, I think he is going for a first: The indictment of a sitting POTUS. =D>

The evidence must be overwhelming, obviously. I think he may also reach beyond obstruction and possibly go for treason/conspiracy; or at least use treason/conspiracy as the bargaining chip to settle for an obstruction plea or resignation. I've been following Mueller's follow-the-money strategy. That strategy has been flipping former Trump people like Go stones. He's obviously already got Trump dead-to-rights on money laundering and violation of Article I of the Constitution (Emoluments Clause aka bribery). Treason or conspiracy are very high standards, but he seems to be building a solid case for either or both in parallel with the obstruction case.

Recall that Trump gave Israel's classified intelligence to the Russians. Why? Trump has taken multiple secretive meetings with the Russians before and since the elections. Why? Prior to elections, there was the server in Trump Tower communicating with Russian servers. Why? There were multiple people on his Team meeting and communicating with Russians - and LYING about it. Why? These are all just SOME of the things made public. There are multiple FISA warrants in play, too.

There may at least be a conspiracy charge in there somewhere. Mueller is investigating all that and has already flipped multiple key witnesses having intimate knowledge.

The smart play would be to charge Trump with multiple serious offenses. Not just obstruction. I opine he would prefer to wait until an announcement would have the most advantageous impact to flip both houses of Congress so that he could get an impeachment in the House AND a conviction in the Senate.

Per the Constitution:
“The president, vice-president, and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”

Go big or go home. Mueller is absolutely going B-I-G!
\:D/

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by dragonz » February 13, 2018, 12:12 pm

ytrewq wrote:
February 13, 2018, 11:41 am
I opine that given the awesomeness of the legal team Mueller assembled and the meticulous manner in which that team is proceeding, I think he is going for a first: The indictment of a sitting POTUS. =D>

The evidence must be overwhelming, obviously. I think he may also reach beyond obstruction and possibly go for treason/conspiracy; or at least use treason/conspiracy as the bargaining chip to settle for an obstruction plea or resignation. I've been following Mueller's follow-the-money strategy. That strategy has been flipping former Trump people like Go stones. He's obviously already got Trump dead-to-rights on money laundering and violation of Article I of the Constitution (Emoluments Clause aka bribery). Treason or conspiracy are very high standards, but he seems to be building a solid case for either or both in parallel with the obstruction case.

Recall that Trump gave Israel's classified intelligence to the Russians. Why? Trump has taken multiple secretive meetings with the Russians before and since the elections. Why? Prior to elections, there was the server in Trump Tower communicating with Russian servers. Why? There were multiple people on his Team meeting and communicating with Russians - and LYING about it. Why? These are all just SOME of the things made public. There are multiple FISA warrants in play, too.

There may at least be a conspiracy charge in there somewhere. Mueller is investigating all that and has already flipped multiple key witnesses having intimate knowledge.

The smart play would be to charge Trump with multiple serious offenses. Not just obstruction. I opine he would prefer to wait until an announcement would have the most advantageous impact to flip both houses of Congress so that he could get an impeachment in the House AND a conviction in the Senate.

Per the Constitution:
“The president, vice-president, and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”

Go big or go home. Mueller is absolutely going B-I-G!
\:D/
55555 I love it . makes my day reading things like this . better than any reality tv show . Hope this thread never ends as i need some amusement in my life right now

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » February 13, 2018, 3:23 pm

Stantheman wrote:
February 13, 2018, 9:46 am
Lone Star wrote:
February 13, 2018, 9:13 am

2. A POTUS is never indicted by any authority other than Congress in the impeachment process. Mueller may provide his findings to Congress, but that's it.
I must disagree, there is nothing in the constitution baring a President from being indicted. That being said Mueller does not have the authority to indict Trump based on his appointment by the Justice Department and must follow their rules. You must also know an indictment can not remove a President from office, leagally that can only be done by impeachment.
You just agreed with me. :)

A formal indictment means formal charges. Those can only be brought by Congress.

An accusation can be made against anyone -- with or without evidence -- but that doesn't automatically result in formal charges, and never against a sitting POTUS.

The impeachment process is the only venue that can bring formal charges.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by ytrewq » February 13, 2018, 3:40 pm

Stan is not wrong (and neither am I). Skippy the troll needs to do more Googling. Again. We can all carry the conversation without Skippy the troll.

I suggest all Google "can mueller indict trump" and read up from credible sources. Opinions vary which means it is NOT settled law. It is to be decided by the Courts.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Lone Star » February 13, 2018, 5:13 pm

dragonz wrote:
February 13, 2018, 12:12 pm
ytrewq wrote:
February 13, 2018, 11:41 am
I opine
...
\:D/
55555 I love it . makes my day reading things like this . better than any reality tv show . Hope this thread never ends as i need some amusement in my life right now
Yes, as with all of his other posts, it looks like all wishful thinking and hopefulness based on The Intellectual's hate for Trump and whatever else. Rachel and Mother Jones (they wish the same) could be some of the ones feeding this frenzy. He admitted from jump that it was all opinion (opine), so I'll take it as such. :)

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by dragonz » February 13, 2018, 6:35 pm

Lone Star wrote:
February 13, 2018, 5:13 pm
dragonz wrote:
February 13, 2018, 12:12 pm
ytrewq wrote:
February 13, 2018, 11:41 am
I opine
...
\:D/
55555 I love it . makes my day reading things like this . better than any reality tv show . Hope this thread never ends as i need some amusement in my life right now
Yes, as with all of his other posts, it looks like all wishful thinking and hopefulness based on The Intellectual's hate for Trump and whatever else. Rachel and Mother Jones (they wish the same) could be some of the ones feeding this frenzy. He admitted from jump that it was all opinion (opine), so I'll take it as such. :)
yes he reminds me of this teenager who speeds up and down my road every evening on his old very noisy bike . He passes me with this big grin on his face and he thinks that he is being cool and everybody is thinking wow look at that guy go but he does not realise that everyone is thinking what a ###### he is

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