Retirement extension - earliest permitted filing

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Retirement extension - earliest permitted filing

Post by tamada » October 15, 2017, 3:18 am

It's only been (almost) a year but I forgot to write it down.

What is the earliest one can apply for a new retirement extension at Udon Immigration, ie. how many days before the due date stamped in the passport?

Some allow 45 days, others only 30. What applies here?

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Re: Retirement extension - earliest permitted filing

Post by Bandung_Dero » October 15, 2017, 8:00 am

I believe the rule of thumb is 30 Days prior to expiry, I ALWAYS do mine on the 25 or 26th Dec (for obvious reasons :-$ ) my expiry date is the 11th Jan. About 15 Days
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Re: Retirement extension - earliest permitted filing

Post by pal52 » October 15, 2017, 8:27 am

It is 30 days here in Udon.
I asked when I did mine in July & they said 30 days

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Post by wazza » October 15, 2017, 12:21 pm

Did mine on the 31st of August ( the day it expired ) and was told could have done up to 30 days previous.

Im sure a few old hands will know this, but the 90 day reporting date doesnt change when a new extension of the visa is approved.

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Post by parrot » October 15, 2017, 2:07 pm

wazza wrote:
October 15, 2017, 12:21 pm
Did mine on the 31st of August ( the day it expired ) and was told could have done up to 30 days previous.

Im sure a few old hands will know this, but the 90 day reporting date doesnt change when a new extension of the visa is approved.
A few years ago, needing to travel back to the US about 50 days before our extension was due, I explained our situation and asked if we could extend early. Yes.

On the 90 day reporting......if your 90 day report is due, say, 1 Nov. And you do your visa extension, say, 15 Oct, your new 90 day report date will be 90 days from 15 Oct. At least that's the way it's work for us on numerous occasions over the years.

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Post by wazza » October 15, 2017, 2:27 pm

parrot wrote:
October 15, 2017, 2:07 pm
wazza wrote:
October 15, 2017, 12:21 pm
Did mine on the 31st of August ( the day it expired ) and was told could have done up to 30 days previous.

Im sure a few old hands will know this, but the 90 day reporting date doesnt change when a new extension of the visa is approved.
A few years ago, needing to travel back to the US about 50 days before our extension was due, I explained our situation and asked if we could extend early. Yes.

On the 90 day reporting......if your 90 day report is due, say, 1 Nov. And you do your visa extension, say, 15 Oct, your new 90 day report date will be 90 days from 15 Oct. At least that's the way it's work for us on numerous occasions over the years.
Oh dear, seems I was at the discretion of the Imm Officer, not that it matters as Im OS now, and get a new 90 days in Nov

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Re: Retirement extension - earliest permitted filing

Post by parrot » October 15, 2017, 2:39 pm

wazza wrote:
October 15, 2017, 2:27 pm
parrot wrote:
October 15, 2017, 2:07 pm
wazza wrote:
October 15, 2017, 12:21 pm
Did mine on the 31st of August ( the day it expired ) and was told could have done up to 30 days previous.

Im sure a few old hands will know this, but the 90 day reporting date doesnt change when a new extension of the visa is approved.
A few years ago, needing to travel back to the US about 50 days before our extension was due, I explained our situation and asked if we could extend early. Yes.

On the 90 day reporting......if your 90 day report is due, say, 1 Nov. And you do your visa extension, say, 15 Oct, your new 90 day report date will be 90 days from 15 Oct. At least that's the way it's work for us on numerous occasions over the years.
Oh dear, seems I was at the discretion of the Imm Officer, not that it matters as Im OS now, and get a new 90 days in Nov
Udon immigration has been renewing 90day the same day as you apply for visa extension for several years. It wasn't always the case. I doubt they're under any obligation to do so.......but if they didn't, I'd kindly ask if they would.....if for no other reason than to get '90day in sync with visa extension'.

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Re: Retirement extension - earliest permitted filing

Post by Bandung_Dero » October 15, 2017, 3:15 pm

For as long as I can remember I have been given a 90 day report date from the day I did the extension regardless of prior travel or gazetted 90 day report date EVEN through the bulls##t (graft) 30 day "Under Consideration" days - eg.

I do my Extension on the 25th December my 90 day report is due about 23rd March regardless of the fact my extension date is 11th Jan.
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Post by Lone Star » October 15, 2017, 4:01 pm

Bandung_Dero wrote:
October 15, 2017, 3:15 pm
For as long as I can remember I have been given a 90 day report date from the day I did the extension regardless of prior travel or gazetted 90 day report date EVEN through the bulls##t (graft) 30 day "Under Consideration" days - eg.

I do my Extension on the 25th December my 90 day report is due about 23rd March regardless of the fact my extension date is 11th Jan.
That's been true for me too. I just use the dates they give me and smile. No problem.

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Re: Retirement extension - earliest permitted filing

Post by tamada » October 15, 2017, 5:53 pm

Thanks chaps, including the comments on 90-day reports; always handy to know. I have been dealing with Jomtien for the past 5 years or so and gotten kinda used to their peccadillo's.

The way work is panning out, I think I will need to go cap-in-hand and and see if they remember the "Parrot Protocol" and get mine done a bit earlier.

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Re: Retirement extension - earliest permitted filing

Post by tamada » December 7, 2017, 6:50 pm

Dropped by Immigration early afternoon to ask about Retirement Extension renewal. The place was busy and the guy at the 90-day desk was the only one free to answer my questions after he gave me their printed list of requirements dated "as of 3rd December 2008". When I pressed him on anything sooner than 30 days prior, he didn't offer anything except 30 days. Anyway, after I left, I looked through the list again to see if anything had changed from earlier Marriage Extensions that I had filed their years ago and noted that it says that the Embassy/Consulate stamp on the letter of income certification needs to be verified by the MFA at Chaengwattana. Bit of a bugger if they are insisting on that. Anyone can confirm that they do need this extra endorsement?

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Re: Retirement extension - earliest permitted filing

Post by parrot » December 7, 2017, 7:31 pm

In 2014 my wife and I had to travel back to the US for medical reasons. Our extensions were due in mid-Oct, we needed to leave mid-Aug. I popped in with a cheat sheet of Thai/English........gave the official my reasons, he said, "can do, just stop by a day before you leave". I felt uncomfortable with a verbal handshake (in case he wasn't there the day we went in). I asked if he'd put his signature on a short note. He did. We ended up going in about 50 days before our extension was due. No problems. Times and officials change.......so I'd inquire. Best times usually are latish afternoon.

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Re: Retirement extension - earliest permitted filing

Post by tamada » December 7, 2017, 9:09 pm

parrot wrote:
December 7, 2017, 7:31 pm
In 2014 my wife and I had to travel back to the US for medical reasons. Our extensions were due in mid-Oct, we needed to leave mid-Aug. I popped in with a cheat sheet of Thai/English........gave the official my reasons, he said, "can do, just stop by a day before you leave". I felt uncomfortable with a verbal handshake (in case he wasn't there the day we went in). I asked if he'd put his signature on a short note. He did. We ended up going in about 50 days before our extension was due. No problems. Times and officials change.......so I'd inquire. Best times usually are latish afternoon.
I am more concerned about the MFA sign-off on the embassy income letter as getting that letter is a mail-order task at the British Embassy these days. No longer permitted to apply for it in person so I didn't plan on visiting Bangkok at all this time.

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Re: Retirement extension - earliest permitted filing

Post by tamada » December 9, 2017, 10:47 am

OK, my MFA certification worries have been laid to rest by good members (in another thread) who have recently filed retirement extensions and had no issues with just the original income letter.

I have my short list as follows:

Passport
TM7 form + passport picture.
Yellow book and/or ID card + 1 copy
Embassy Income letter + 1 copy
Copies of passport data page, extension transfer page and all subsequent extensions and all related re-entry permits.
Copy of current TM6.
1900 baht.

Since I am relocating back here, should I have Mrs tam complete a TM30 or do I submit TM28... or both? Do they have a hard-on for that sort of stuff here?

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Re: Retirement extension - earliest permitted filing

Post by 86Tiger » December 9, 2017, 12:57 pm

As related in your other thread, I did my extesion on 22 Nov.

I had FIL sign the power of attorney form naming me his representative and I filled out and signed the TM30. Only question asked was to my wife if this was her father or were we paying rent. They were happy and never looked up again except to return my passport.

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