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Re: Low Budget Village Build For In-Laws

Post by Marcosteffano » February 24, 2019, 12:22 am

I just sorted the wife's family out with a new home on a budget and watered the first coat down first.they were over the moon.
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Re: Low Budget Village Build For In-Laws

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Re: Low Budget Village Build For In-Laws

Post by runrunshaw » February 24, 2019, 2:31 pm

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Re: Low Budget Village Build For In-Laws

Post by pipoz4444 » February 24, 2019, 3:48 pm

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February 23, 2019, 6:36 pm
Well, our simple electrical job is done. The man said his name is Nana Plaza, so we know he has a sense of humor. He worked a full day and two half-days for his four thousand baht, plus a small bonus since he did a few extra things for us, and we had him change some things that he had to redo. Speaks English, very polite, on the quiet side, and and came fully prepared.

Well, almost. When he hooked up the power lines to the house I was in one of my containers. I came out and saw this:


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Three points of contact at all times, right? Two feet on the top step and one hand holding electrical lines. I would have intervened, but he was moments from finishing that little piece of Houdini-like ballet.

Anyway, inspection next week.


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I had him run a line in flex conduit out to my container roof, then conduit to an outlet. I'm not going to wire the containers, just run in heavy duty extension cords since they are only temporary.


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Anyway, 30 amp throughout, all wire in conduit. I wish everyone was as easy to work with as Nana.

So this post pretty much catches me up to the current state of the build. We have more primer to apply and some caulking, then the topcoat. I have one container refurbished, one more to go. And I'm still installing the foil insulation to the underside of the container roof.

Anyway, it's a process. Looks like I'll be off on another deployment soon, so we'll see how far we can take it.
Looks good, are you planning on doing a ceiling. with the house.

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Re: Low Budget Village Build For In-Laws

Post by runrunshaw » February 24, 2019, 7:17 pm

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Looks good, are you planning on doing a ceiling. with the house.

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Initially I was, yes.

Then when the build went off the rails a bit, the in-laws told my wife they didn't need a drop-down ceiling. Maybe they were afraid I was about to walk away from the whole project! I really couldn't imagine not having one, until I went with the TW to see some friend in another village. Her house looked nice on the outside, and I was surprised she had no drop-down ceiling. I figured it would be hot inside, but it was very comfortable. I realize the lack of one makes it incredibly loud when it rains. Anyway, I've put it on the "wait and see" list.

My inclination is to do it--I think I can have it done parts and labor for about 12,000. baht.

Of course, then, you're a cheap bastard if you don't put in insulation, right? Ka-ching ka-ching ka-ching.

I'm right now putting in the inexpensive thin foil/brown paper insulation under the roof panels over my containers. I bought enough for the house roof.

My wife's uncle Mak, who ran the build once I fired Jit, just gave us a big load of leftover paint from his recent house build. Mostly it's yellow, and we can use it inside for the two bedrooms and maybe the hong nam. Nice gesture on his part to save us some baht.

He also gave us a washable gray paint. I hadn't really noticed it before, but If you look at this photo of his house...

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...you'll see trim separating the two colors, yellow and gray. I guess if that trim was indoors it would be called wainscoting. Anyway, dirt splashes up from the ground when it rains, and he just washes it off from that gray paint.

Any comments about this? What's the best way to deal with the 'dirt splash' issue, short of pouring CPAC a meter out and all around the house?
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Re: Low Budget Village Build For In-Laws

Post by pipoz4444 » February 24, 2019, 10:32 pm

I see the house doesn't have any gutters, hence the dirt splash

Re. The Dirt Splash: You can run a sheet of black plastic around the perimeter of the house and then place a 1.5 m wide strip layer of gravel or stone on top . That or lay some cheap Garden type pavers.

I tried to up load a couple of pictures of ones I have seen at some Garden Centers, but it wont let me upload. I have seen some around the Centers at TB 400-500 per m2

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Re: Low Budget Village Build For In-Laws

Post by runrunshaw » February 25, 2019, 9:58 am

pipoz4444 wrote:
February 24, 2019, 10:32 pm
I see the house doesn't have any gutters, hence the dirt splash

Re. The Dirt Splash: You can run a sheet of black plastic around the perimeter of the house and then place a 1.5 m wide strip layer of gravel or stone on top . That or lay some cheap Garden type pavers.

I tried to up load a couple of pictures of ones I have seen at some Garden Centers, but it wont let me upload. I have seen some around the Centers at TB 400-500 per m2

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I was looking at guttering at Big Lots yesterday. I'll put it on the rear of the house where the roof water drains. I wasn't sure about the rest of the house, considering the Biblical type of downpours we get here, as to whether dirt splash will be an issue. I suspect it will be. I considered using rocks, but maybe cheap pavers is a better option. I hadn't considered putting plastic sheeting under the rocks---do I need that with the pavers?
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Re: Low Budget Village Build For In-Laws

Post by runrunshaw » February 25, 2019, 10:54 am

Marcosteffano wrote:
February 24, 2019, 12:22 am
I just sorted the wife's family out with a new home on a budget and watered the first coat down first.they were over the moon.
LOL. Any reason you chose that particular paint?
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Re: Low Budget Village Build For In-Laws

Post by bluejets » February 25, 2019, 11:08 am

Pavers would be the way to go I think.
Using black plastic makes the ground "rot" underneath.

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Post by mech_401 » February 25, 2019, 11:27 am

yes the gravel/ rock idea I got but was lost
as to use-purpose of plastic sheeting 8-[

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Re: Low Budget Village Build For In-Laws

Post by pipoz4444 » February 25, 2019, 11:30 am

runrunshaw wrote:
February 25, 2019, 9:58 am
pipoz4444 wrote:
February 24, 2019, 10:32 pm
I see the house doesn't have any gutters, hence the dirt splash

Re. The Dirt Splash: You can run a sheet of black plastic around the perimeter of the house and then place a 1.5 m wide strip layer of gravel or stone on top . That or lay some cheap Garden type pavers.

I tried to up load a couple of pictures of ones I have seen at some Garden Centers, but it wont let me upload. I have seen some around the Centers at TB 400-500 per m2

pipoz4444
I was looking at guttering at Big Lots yesterday. I'll put it on the rear of the house where the roof water drains. I wasn't sure about the rest of the house, considering the Biblical type of downpours we get here, as to whether dirt splash will be an issue. I suspect it will be. I considered using rocks, but maybe cheap pavers is a better option. I hadn't considered putting plastic sheeting under the rocks---do I need that with the pavers?
Re Gutters: That is all I did. I only put some guttering on some roof sides where I wanted to collect the rain water and fill up a tank. To be honest I prefer the rain just falling off the roof. From memory the UPVC guttering that I bought from Global House cost me about TB 250 per linear meter (excluding installation) with the Gutter, Joiners, Outlet & Brackets and was available in White or Rustic Brown

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Re: Low Budget Village Build For In-Laws

Post by Marcosteffano » February 26, 2019, 12:03 pm

runrunshaw wrote:
February 25, 2019, 10:54 am
Marcosteffano wrote:
February 24, 2019, 12:22 am
I just sorted the wife's family out with a new home on a budget and watered the first coat down first.they were over the moon.
LOL. Any reason you chose that particular paint?
I wanted to give a bit of quality to the job,lol...some of the houses around the village look ok but in desperate need of a paint n varnish.theres one village far out past nong wua so where I think they've got a competition on and have all painted up their houses and what a difference it makes.the house opposite me could do with a lick but they prefer to spend their money on £30,000 cars.

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Re: STORM DAMAGE at Low Budget Village Build For In-Laws

Post by runrunshaw » February 26, 2019, 12:35 pm

Well, the storm last night hit my wife's village hard.

And my containers... well... my father-in-law witnessed a mini tornado push the containers off the concrete slab and then rip up the roof and send it flying. He said he couldn't pull his eyes away from the spectacle, because it was so amazing. Lucky he didn't get decapitated.

The container roof never felt like it was anchored right, to me, but maybe it wouldn't have made a difference.

Good news is the house made it through okay--only the electrical lines were ripped off, destroying some sherla wood. Damn, I had just paid the electrician to hook us up!

Anyway... adapt, adjust, overcome.

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Re: STORM DAMAGE at Low Budget Village Build For In-Laws

Post by runrunshaw » February 26, 2019, 12:44 pm

Around the village.... roads blocked with downed power poles missing roofs that took flight, etc.


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Re: Low Budget Village Build For In-Laws

Post by runrunshaw » February 26, 2019, 9:11 pm

When it rains it pours, no pun intended. Funny, my second novel, originally published by Macmillan, is titled Storm Damage. Now I'm living it.

https://www.amazon.com/Ed-Kovacs/e/B005DONBDQ


Anyway, the house emerged virtually unscathed. We're meeting the electrician tomorrow and he'll reconnect the lines to the house. Deja vu all over again.

Cleanup will be done in my absence, since I'm leaving this weekend for a long deployment. The man who sold me the containers will send his crane truck at no charge to re-position the units on the concrete slab.

My new angle grinder will be put to use to salvage whatever iron is salvageable. I'm sure the bent-up roof panels will be hammered half-way straight and used in the back of the house supported by wooden poles or bamboo, done in true village fashion.

It's out of my hands now--I have to start packing.

So far, we've spent about 285,000 THB building the house, give or take. All of the records are in Thai, kept by the wife. That does not include the 15,000 baht paid to Jit for doing almost nothing.

I'm too rushed now to put together a breakdown, but anyone seriously interested can PM me.

Here's what remains to be done:
--A drop-down ceiling and top coat paint would take the figure to approximately 310K.
--Add in the cost for tiles and labor for 64 SQM.
--Also, insulation for 64SQM, and that would be a pretty solid final price.

Not sure what the cost per meter for those last two items would be.

Nowhere near the 230K we set out to spend, but we have a much larger structure, complete with Thai kitchen and covered patio.

I started this thread for informational purposes, as a contribution to the farang community, and as an example of the polar opposite of the meticulous and obviously costly building projects documented on threads others have posted (and which I highly recommend reading for all of the great information they contain).

Saying I built a house for 300K doesn't exactly earn one bragging rights! As I have said before, I know very little (although a lot more now) about home construction. I'm proud that the house stood up to the mini-tornado that demolished my other structure. I no longer have to worry about my in-laws living in rickety, near squalor.
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Post by ajarnudon » March 4, 2019, 12:02 am

Wow. That was some storm. The western suburbs of Udon copped it, and I am guessing that you may be that way. Barney's place is NW - how did you fare Barney?
BTW, the 3" thick insulation batts in silver plastic that I am using are 180 THB for 60 cm X 4 M.

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Post by ajarnudon » March 4, 2019, 12:11 am

"Three points of contact at all times, right?"
Takes me back to the days of Army Signals exercises - three points of contact. Two feet in mud or a wet floor, a battery bank, and the third point of contact? The urine trough of course. Just enough for a serious tingle, no heart arracks or sterilization.

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Post by Barney » March 4, 2019, 8:43 am

ajarnudon wrote:Wow. That was some storm. The western suburbs of Udon copped it, and I am guessing that you may be that way. Barney's place is NW - how did you fare Barney?
BTW, the 3" thick insulation batts in silver plastic that I am using are 180 THB for 60 cm X 4 M.
Rock solid mate. The missus ain’t happy about her papaya tree being snapped off though.
The soi coming in has about a dozen light poles with those flimsy flouro lights. Most are still hangin down but funny enough they are still operating.



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Re: Low Budget Village Build For In-Laws

Post by ajarnudon » March 6, 2019, 9:31 pm

Pawpaws were popular in Queensland backyards, and when they becacme too tall to easily pick the fruit, we would cut them off at about the one metre mark and place a tin can over the stump (this was to prevent rain rotting the hollow trunk). Several new branches would spring up, and we would braek some off to let just two continue on with the fruit bearing. I think a similar strategy would get your missus's tree back on track.
ps. I just remembered that you used to work in Cairns Barney. You would know all about this.
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Re: Low Budget Village Build For In-Laws

Post by ajarnudon » March 6, 2019, 9:36 pm

'Saying I built a house for 300K doesn't exactly earn one bragging rights! As I have said before, I know very little (although a lot more now) about home construction. I'm proud that the house stood up to the mini-tornado that demolished my other structure. I no longer have to worry about my in-laws living in rickety, near squalor.'

Well done RRS - and for the house to have come thru unscathed says volumes.

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