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Re: Front doors

Post by Nigglyb » November 15, 2018, 9:19 pm

I'm probably over thinking this.
The one on the right shows an additional dimension which I can't work out where its for but apart from that these two handle designs look exactly the same to me.
Theres B3000 difference between the two :shock:

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Re: Front doors

Post by sometimewoodworker » November 15, 2018, 10:33 pm

Nigglyb wrote:
November 15, 2018, 9:19 pm
I'm probably over thinking this.
The one on the right shows an additional dimension which I can't work out where its for but apart from that these two handle designs look exactly the same to me.
Theres B3000 difference between the two :shock:

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Sorry your picture is just too low quality to read anything, also there is no visible pricing shown.
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Re: Front doors

Post by sometimewoodworker » November 15, 2018, 10:43 pm

If you look carefully it's is actually quite easy to see, or work out, one of the differences between them
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Re: Front doors

Post by Nigglyb » November 15, 2018, 10:48 pm

sometimewoodworker wrote:
November 15, 2018, 10:43 pm
If you look carefully it's is actually quite easy to see, or work out, one of the differences between them
Nope, you've got me, I can't see the difference.
The pricing is on a different page but like I said the one on the right is B3000 more expenchip
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Re: Front doors

Post by sometimewoodworker » November 15, 2018, 10:52 pm

Nigglyb wrote:
November 15, 2018, 10:48 pm
sometimewoodworker wrote:
November 15, 2018, 10:43 pm
If you look carefully it's is actually quite easy to see, or work out, one of the differences between them
Nope, you've got me, I can't see the difference.
The pricing is on a different page but like I said the one on the right is B3000 more expenchip
The right hand one doesn't mount at 90 degrees to the door the left hand one does
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Re: Front doors

Post by Nigglyb » November 15, 2018, 10:57 pm

sometimewoodworker wrote:
November 15, 2018, 10:52 pm
Nigglyb wrote:
November 15, 2018, 10:48 pm
sometimewoodworker wrote:
November 15, 2018, 10:43 pm
If you look carefully it's is actually quite easy to see, or work out, one of the differences between them
Nope, you've got me, I can't see the difference.
The pricing is on a different page but like I said the one on the right is B3000 more expenchip
The right hand one doesn't mount at 90 degrees to the door the left hand one does
How can you tell that? Is it the additional measurement in the diagram? All the wording is the same.
If this is the case, luckily I'd want the cheaper version. It'd be the 1600mm version if the door opening is 2000mm so B5885 a pair plus locking mechanism. I also fancy a coupe of closure mechs I've seen.
Just need to find a door pattern I like now
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Re: Front doors

Post by sometimewoodworker » November 15, 2018, 10:58 pm

The hypotenuse is 75mm but one of the other sides if is 63mm so you should be able to workout the angle
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Re: Front doors

Post by sometimewoodworker » November 15, 2018, 11:00 pm

You haven't posted the part numbers and they are impossible to read so I've no idea which two you are looking at.
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Re: Front doors

Post by Nigglyb » November 15, 2018, 11:06 pm

My bad, thought the part numbers had been posted. Can't make the picture resolution any clearer
Left 903.05.794
Right 903.05.894
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Re: Front doors

Post by sometimewoodworker » November 16, 2018, 6:44 am

Nigglyb wrote:
November 15, 2018, 11:06 pm
My bad, thought the part numbers had been posted. Can't make the picture resolution any clearer
Left 903.05.794
Right 903.05.894
Completely different fittings and if you look at the other pictures it's very clear
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903.05.894
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Re: Front doors

Post by Nigglyb » November 16, 2018, 6:00 pm

sometimewoodworker wrote:
November 16, 2018, 6:44 am
Nigglyb wrote:
November 15, 2018, 11:06 pm
My bad, thought the part numbers had been posted. Can't make the picture resolution any clearer
Left 903.05.794
Right 903.05.894
Completely different fittings and if you look at the other pictures it's very clear
Yep I'll concede if I look at the pictures you've posted its very clear. However, you must have got them from somewhere other than the Hafele Thailand website because they're certainly not showing there in such detail. The Product Detail sheets are even the same on the website.
The angle you've pictured for the handle obviously now shows a different fitting.
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Re: Front doors

Post by sometimewoodworker » November 16, 2018, 6:10 pm

Nigglyb wrote:
November 16, 2018, 6:00 pm
sometimewoodworker wrote:
November 16, 2018, 6:44 am
Nigglyb wrote:
November 15, 2018, 11:06 pm
My bad, thought the part numbers had been posted. Can't make the picture resolution any clearer
Left 903.05.794
Right 903.05.894
Completely different fittings and if you look at the other pictures it's very clear
Yep I'll concede if I look at the pictures you've posted its very clear. However, you must have got them from somewhere other than the Hafele Thailand website because they're certainly not showing there in such detail. The Product Detail sheets are even the same on the website.
The angle you've pictured for the handle obviously now shows a different fitting.
Well no I didn't get them from a different website. They are on the Häfele website https://www.hafelethailand.com/product/ ... ดมือจับดึง and this is the link.

There is also a website where you can check the stock of your choice

http://checkstock.hafele.co.th/?sku=903.05.794 and they have your choice in stock
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Re: Front doors

Post by Nigglyb » November 16, 2018, 6:18 pm

sometimewoodworker wrote:
November 16, 2018, 6:10 pm

Well no I didn't get them from a different website. They are on the Häfele website https://www.hafelethailand.com/product/ ... ดมือจับดึง and this is the link.

There is also a website where you can check the stock of your choice

http://checkstock.hafele.co.th/?sku=903.05.794 and they have your choice in stock
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That is a different website
https://www.hafelethailand.com/product/ ... ดมือจับดึง Won't open for me. Trying to open the Thai Hafele sends me to https://www.hafele.com/th/th/ & its pretty laborious searching for anything.
http://checkstock.hafele.co.th is where I posted the pics from
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Re: Front doors

Post by sometimewoodworker » November 16, 2018, 6:30 pm

Try it without the full link https://www.hafelethailand.com

And here is a link to the PDF file that makes looking through much easier

https://www.hafele.com/INTERSHOP/static ... 015-01.pdf
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Re: Front doors

Post by sometimewoodworker » November 16, 2018, 6:35 pm

Or if you are using a computer that does Flash https://www.hafele.com/INTERSHOP/web/WF ... rtpage=1.2
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Re: Front doors

Post by Photoman » November 16, 2018, 8:21 pm

Hi Nigglyb

Just in case you are still thinking of Upvc , I have run a double glazing repair business in the UK for a very long time , so I would advise staying away from Upvc double doors , a single door would be ok , but a double has nothing solid to shut against and would normally bounce . Most of my business was adjusting double doors fitted by builders .

I hope that has swayed your opinion and saved you an expensive purchase , sorry to poke my nose in .

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Re: Front doors

Post by Nigglyb » November 16, 2018, 8:43 pm

Photoman wrote:
November 16, 2018, 8:21 pm
Hi Nigglyb

Just in case you are still thinking of Upvc , I have run a double glazing repair business in the UK for a very long time , so I would advise staying away from Upvc double doors , a single door would be ok , but a double has nothing solid to shut against and would normally bounce . Most of my business was adjusting double doors fitted by builders .

I hope that has swayed your opinion and saved you an expensive purchase , sorry to poke my nose in .

Roy
Hey Roy, thanks for the tip :D
I've more or less talked myself into a wooden double front door but that leaves me with the read patio doors which are of a normal size. I've already asked for hinged doors (french doors?) as I thought they'd make a better seal instead of sliding ones when closed which would help stop all the little beasties coming in. Maybe I need to think again
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Re: Front doors

Post by Photoman » November 16, 2018, 9:47 pm

Nigglyb , Your'e very welcome

A better quality Upvc set of french doors , as long as the slave door is fixed well , should not bounce .

Coming from a maintenance background ( Stowe School ) I am finding it hard as well trying to get tradesmen to do the job they say they can do . There are skilled men here because I've seen the work , but try trying to find one is frustrating .

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Re: Front doors

Post by Nigglyb » November 16, 2018, 10:10 pm

Photoman wrote:
November 16, 2018, 9:47 pm
Nigglyb , Your'e very welcome

A better quality Upvc set of french doors , as long as the slave door is fixed well , should not bounce .

Coming from a maintenance background ( Stowe School ) I am finding it hard as well trying to get tradesmen to do the job they say they can do . There are skilled men here because I've seen the work , but try trying to find one is frustrating .

Roy
Hehe, I'm trying to do this build from the UK :shock:

Its going really well so far but still time to make a horribly expensive error
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Re: Front doors

Post by sometimewoodworker » November 17, 2018, 3:24 am

Photoman wrote:
November 16, 2018, 8:21 pm
Hi Nigglyb

Just in case you are still thinking of Upvc , I have run a double glazing repair business in the UK for a very long time , so I would advise staying away from Upvc double doors , a single door would be ok , but a double has nothing solid to shut against and would normally bounce . Most of my business was adjusting double doors fitted by builders .

I hope that has swayed your opinion and saved you an expensive purchase , sorry to poke my nose in .
Roy
That sounds like a lower quality kind of double door fittings. My UPVC double front doors (each full length IGU is about 38kg) don't bounce each is 1 x 2.2 meters. The half that opens second locks firmly into the frame at both the top and bottom before you can open or shut the other half and that has a 7 point lock (2 into the frame and 5 into the other panel.
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