Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by vlad » September 18, 2009, 4:16 pm

Im reasonably happy living in the uk stantheman. I dont need insurence if i have to get hospital treatment. Can watch what i want when i want on TV. We have a program on tv at the moment called The secret millionaire this is a millionaire who comes to your town and gives his cash away to good cause's caused a bit of a ruck in my town because only the run down area's were filmed and yes it did show my town in a bad light. But and here is the big but we did not blame it on anyone else and it made our council take notice and do something to improve the town. What was the thai way blame the outsiders for showing thailand in a bad way, dont admit we have a scam problem, let the media spread propaganda about falangs and above all else shift the blame so we can carry on. Thats the difference stantheman a democratic country as aposed to a 3rd world country with a Mai pen Rai attitude. If your not familier with this term stan ask in the room what mai pen rai is.

How about this the thai jet ski opperators held a meeting this morning in patong to discuss the problem and come up with an idea to stop the scams guess who also was in attendace at the meeting ????



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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by laphanphon » September 18, 2009, 5:28 pm

Company faces prosecution for Phuket jet-ski show

PHUKET CITY: The Thai television company responsible for producing the Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand series, which featured footage of an alleged jet-ski scam on Phuket, is to be prosecuted, the Bangkok Post reported today.

The managers of Black Sheep Productions, which produced the show, could face 12 months in jail and fines of up to a million baht, the report said.
full story on link
http://www.phuketgazette.net/news/index.asp?id=7791

they may want to reconsider that move, considering if just one major film maker decided not to make a movie in thailand, for fear of offending someone, that would be a few million dollars lost. TIT :D

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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by vlad » September 18, 2009, 5:49 pm

it serves them right laphanphon if all tv and media boycot thailand now but then the thais will only seek another scapegoat. They don't realise the damage they will cause if they keep up this pretence it will not be long before news comes out from the west of the thai media and propaganda machine that seems to be on full anti thai mode now.

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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by laphanphon » September 18, 2009, 6:38 pm

They do have a tendency to shoot themselves in the foot. i wonder if there is much bad press in the USA, as thailand being their favorite/only 'smiling' face in asia. amazing how HIllary visits phuket, tourist starved, of course there is nothing negative to say about 2nd favorite allies, even though ISA laws are 'marshalled' in during her stay. then all of the sudden, hey, how about some tourism for you, little stop by the navy to help the locals. isn't that special.

any yanks out there see any negative news over there, as i'm sure it only gets a small mention, if at on on murdoch entertainment/faux news here or there.

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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by jackspratt » September 18, 2009, 8:05 pm

vlad given your animosity towards Thailand, for good or bad reasons, and your promise not to return here - the question has been asked before.

Why are you bothering to check out what is happening in the LOS, and more particularly, why are you still posting on Udon Map - which seems to be a long way from your area of interest in the south?

Are you a masochist? Or are you simply following izzie's voyeuristic tendencies?

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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by MALC » September 18, 2009, 10:00 pm

well said vlad. some people here have blinkers on. i live here and its better for me than uk. but that does not mean to say everythings ok. :D

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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by Stantheman » September 18, 2009, 11:11 pm

laphanphon wrote:any yanks out there see any negative news over there, as i'm sure it only gets a small mention, if at on on murdoch entertainment/faux news here or there.
Not much is mentioned about Thailand, positive or negative on the news. My son is a fox new fanatic and always has it on and only time Thailand is mentioned is when a disaster hits, the yellow or red shirts riot or the military does another coup. For us the Jet Ski video is just another made for T.V. 1 minute flash in the pan.

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Post by laphanphon » September 18, 2009, 11:43 pm

thanks, pretty much what i expected...... :roll:

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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by Farang1 » September 19, 2009, 2:47 am

vlad wrote: But and here is the big but we did not blame it on anyone else and it made our council take notice and do something to improve the town. What was the thai way blame the outsiders for showing thailand in a bad way, dont admit we have a scam problem, let the media spread propaganda about falangs and above all else shift the blame so we can carry on.
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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by bumper » September 19, 2009, 6:08 am

Darn you never know what an Aussie is thinking :lol: :lol: :lol: :pirate:

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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by laphanphon » September 19, 2009, 1:40 pm

this guy, head of tourist police seems to have his thoughts right. though his head has got to hurt, and guessing he'll be reassigned shortly for speaking out. ](*,) ](*,) ](*,)
Time for All Honest Thais to Act to Stop Corruption

By Alan Morison
Friday, September 18, 2009
Phuketwan News Analysis/Opinion

''HE SAID the extortion gangs, including those in tourist provinces, worked under highly influential people.''

This is the last sentence of a report published in the Bangkok Post today. It is now where it should be, at the start of the story.

It's a sentence that should be read carefully by every honest Thai in the land.

The comment comes from Tourist Police chief Adis Ngamjitsuksri, who concedes that the extortion of tourists is a problem which the police alone cannot stamp out.

How many honest Thais are prepared to put their hands up, to help root out this cancer from their midst?

Unless honest Thais start to fight corruption, beginning with the extortion of tourists, Thailand can kiss goodbye to the prospect of this nation being perceived as a suitable destination for the world's holidaymakers.

People have plenty of choices these days. Why would they want to come to a country full of thieves, or full of people who tolerate thieves?


The Prime Minister has shown an interest in bringing corruption under control. It will not be easy, so he should start with a battle that can produce a victory.

Suvarnabhumi international airport in Bangkok is the place to take a stand. If corruption can be beaten at the airport, then the PM can set his sights higher by taking aim at a relatively small, geographically isolated province . . . Phuket.

If the PM is sincere about turning the tide against corruption, he could clean up Suvarnabhumi first, Phuket second, then make the island province a role model for the rest of Thailand.

Other democracies in SouthEast Asia are doing better in battling corruption. The benefit will come for them eventually in terms of increased trade and tourism . . . at the expense of Thailand.

What producer-director Gavin Hill did by capturing footage of a jet-ski operator extorting large sums from tourists was to expose a corrupt activity that has been tolerated for years by honest Thais.

The Thai media, including Phuketwan, should feel ashamed that a reality television documentary maker revealed, almost by accident, the extent of the entrenched corruption that has long been ignored out of fear, or a failure to choose right from wrong.

To prosecute the production company would be a travesty of justice. It's time for honest Thais to deal with the core issue, the real issue.


Stop the thieves. Restore Thailand's reputation. Save the country from corruption.
http://phuketwan.com/tourism/time-hones ... ion-11584/

the full article is quoted above.

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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by jimboLV » September 19, 2009, 2:25 pm

The Thai media, including Phuketwan, should feel ashamed that a reality television documentary maker revealed, almost by accident, the extent of the entrenched corruption that has long been ignored out of fear, or a failure to choose right from wrong.
Interesting parallel with what's going on in the US right now.

1. Endemic corruption that everybody including the media knows about (sort of) but ignores.
2. Documentary film maker videotapes and publishes evidence.
3. Perpetrators first deny, accuse film maker of staging event.
4. Authorities first threaten to arrest film maker on some technicality, then as public outrage grows, politicians jump on the bandwagon and decry the corruption.

Sound familiar? I tried to post details of this on here the other day but it got deleted. Not PC I guess.

Let's hope that Tourist Police chief Adis Ngamjitsuksri can prevail and clean up this mess for the benefit of all Thais (and us expats as well).

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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by jackspratt » September 19, 2009, 3:46 pm

jimboLV wrote: Sound familiar? I tried to post details of this on here the other day but it got deleted. Not PC I guess.
How does what is happening with Acorn in the US have any relevance to this thread?

Nothing to do with PC. Also nothing to do with tourism in Thailand.

I am sure it would run if you reposted in the correct forum ie world news.

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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by seymourbutts » September 19, 2009, 4:03 pm

It looks like the Thai's have managed to stop episode 3 from airing on british tv, also the rest of the series!!! this will cause more adverse publicity than anything im sure!!!!

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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by vlad » September 20, 2009, 1:09 am

Jacksprat I am neither a masochist or izzie, but I notice you slag him off as well, if you dont like what I post simple answear, dont read it. It has nothing to do with you the areas I like in Thailand and it has nothing to do with you why I post. If its a negative so be it, unlike you who runs around bandung bumping into objects because your blinkers are on again. Or have you been thaianised. God I bet your a barrel of fun at the night market get togethers, with your witty acolades about the fantastic life you lead in a country that wants to censor what you watch and report in the press, nearly forgot the police force that has admitted its curruption is maintained by someone in a higher posistion.

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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by mortiboy » September 20, 2009, 5:17 am

He dont go NM Vlad. He is too busy slagging people off behind his keyboard! Sad man :roll:
Mai mee tahng !

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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by jackspratt » September 20, 2009, 12:31 pm

vlad wrote:Jacksprat I am neither a masochist or izzie, but I notice you slag him off as well, if you dont like what I post simple answear, dont read it. It has nothing to do with you the areas I like in Thailand and it has nothing to do with you why I post. If its a negative so be it, unlike you who runs around bandung bumping into objects because your blinkers are on again. Or have you been thaianised. God I bet your a barrel of fun at the night market get togethers, with your witty acolades about the fantastic life you lead in a country that wants to censor what you watch and report in the press, nearly forgot the police force that has admitted its curruption is maintained by someone in a higher posistion.
I haven't slagged you off, vlad.

I just have a curiosity, and believe the question is worth asking, why you continue to closely follow events in a country which you seem to dislike so intensely, and make almost exclusively negative posts about.

As for my views on Thailand (which you clearly have no idea about) - I am actually able to see, and appreciate the positives here, and not just focus on the negatives (of which there are plenty). But then again, I live here, so I am able to experience these things first hand, rather than vicariously, as you must.

Nothing sad about me morti - I have never been happier than for the last 10 years of my life.

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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by arjay » September 20, 2009, 2:20 pm

Whilst one could argue what happens in Phuket maybe of some relevance/interest to those in other parts of Thailand, it would have been of much greater interest and relevance to this Forum, if events and issues in and around Udon were reported. After all this is an Udon Thani based Forum.

If I want to read about Phuket, Pattaya, or elsewhere, I look at Forums that focus on those locations.. At least that's my personal view! ;)

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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by Fawn » September 20, 2009, 3:29 pm

Gosh, then there's little point in having the other forums or sub forums that comprise this website. For example, no 'Thai news' forum, no 'relationships', no 'world sports' and no 'regional forums'. Even the sub forum that parents this thread would be classified as just Udonthani video clips.

Of course, we'd have nothing more to post once we'd all discussed Udon and then the posters would drift away, followed by the sponsors....

Maybe we could have one large forum called 'general topics on Udonthani' and do away with the rest?
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Re: Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand

Post by Aardvark » September 20, 2009, 3:41 pm

Oh God.......Your just so bloody practical sometimes aren't you 8)

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