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BBC: A third of US executions botched in 2022 - report

Post by Earnest » December 17, 2022, 6:50 pm

More than a third of executions in the US this year were botched or highly problematic, according to a new report.

The Death Penalty Information Center (DPIC) said seven of 20 execution attempts were visibly problematic or took an inordinate amount of time.

In one incident, executioners in Alabama took three hours to set an IV line in what was the longest lethal injection in US history.

Michael Benza, a law professor at Case Western Reserve University who has represented death row inmates, told the BBC that the primary reason for execution failures was "using a medical model of executions, lethal injection, but not using medical people to carry it out".
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-64003124


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Re: BBC: A third of US executions botched in 2022 - report

Post by jackspratt » December 17, 2022, 7:06 pm

Civilised countries don't judicially murder their citizens or residents.

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Post by tamada » December 17, 2022, 8:25 pm

What with KP's "ignorant" and jacks's "uncivilized", it's surprising the USA is still the nation that most of the free world wants to be best buddies with.
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Post by jackspratt » December 17, 2022, 8:33 pm

What is more surprising - or perhaps not - it that the USA doesn't follow most of the free world in ceasing judicial murder within its borders.

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Post by Doodoo » December 17, 2022, 10:02 pm

20 executions botched , while (2021) 19,600 murders committed.
I think people are worried about the wrong thing.

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Post by pipoz4444 » December 17, 2022, 10:54 pm

Extract from a survey in late 2021
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Fifty-four percent of respondents to annual crime survey conducted between October 1 and October 19, 2021 told the polling organization that they were “in favor of the death penalty for a person convicted of murder.” The figure was the lowest since 50% of respondents in March 1972 when they favored the death penalty. XXX said the results are “essentially unchanged from readings over the past four years.” Support was marginally lower than the 55% reported in October 2017 and 2020, and two percentage points lower than in October 2018 and 2019.

Forty-three percent of respondents told XXX that they were opposed to the death penalty as a punishment for murder, matching the responses reported in the 2020 death penalty poll. Opposition to capital punishment was the highest in 55 years, since 47% of Americans expressed opposition to capital punishment in the May 1966 Gallup survey. The number was marginally higher than the 42% level of opposition reported in 2019 and two percentage points higher than in 2017 and 2018.

"Just over half the people who were surveyed in the USA support "Capital Punishment" and just under half the people oppose it. :-k :-k

Needless to say that people have always been divided on their respective views, for 1000's of years. That's what makes people different from sheep or goats, if you prefer the later.

It is the prerogative of both sides to espouse their respective views, presumably views based on ones personal feelings.

It does not mean that 54% of the people are uncivilized, just that they differ from the other 43%. Hmm 3% must sit on the fence \:D/

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Post by Earnest » December 18, 2022, 12:01 am

Doodoo wrote:
December 17, 2022, 10:02 pm
20 executions botched , while (2021) 19,600 murders committed.
I think people are worried about the wrong thing.
The Death Penalty Information Center (DPIC) said seven of 20 execution attempts were visibly problematic or took an inordinate amount of time.
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Post by Khun Paul » December 18, 2022, 6:51 am

Whatever happened to Firing Squads, today with technological innovations , guns could be se up and fired without a human actually pulling the trigger.
Death would be instantaneous, even a near miss would do the job.

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Post by Khun Paul » December 18, 2022, 9:49 am

Khun Paul wrote:
December 18, 2022, 6:51 am
Whatever happened to Firing Squads, today with technological innovations , guns could be se up and fired without a human actually pulling the trigger.
Death would be instantaneous, even a near miss would do the job.
When we left South Arabia many many moons ago, the british army dumped into the sea tons of ammunition, and weapons, just think all that Ammo could support executions for decades at almost ZERO cost ..

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Post by Drunk Monkey » December 18, 2022, 9:59 am

What would your ideal method of execution be KP ??? Firing squad ? Stoning ? Hanging ? Leathal.injection ?

Mine would be locked in a room.with you for 24 hrs without ear plugs and armed only with a ripe banana.

I hope this thread doesnt turn into a death penalty pros n cons cluskerfook.. ey Jack

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Post by jackspratt » December 18, 2022, 10:59 am

Drunk Monkey wrote:
December 18, 2022, 9:59 am

I hope this thread doesnt turn into a death penalty pros n cons cluskerfook.. ey Jack
I can't imagine it will - considering there are no pros. ;)

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Post by noosard » December 18, 2022, 11:14 am

Pros
cost effective
does not reoffend
Cons
mistakes

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Post by Drunk Monkey » December 18, 2022, 11:20 am

jackspratt wrote:
December 18, 2022, 10:59 am
Drunk Monkey wrote:
December 18, 2022, 9:59 am

I hope this thread doesnt turn into a death penalty pros n cons cluskerfook.. ey Jack
I can't imagine it will - considering there are no pros. ;)
Arrrrrrrr i knew you were lerking in the bushes Jack ....you n Kp seem.to be like brothers nowadays ... twins even

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Post by Whistler » December 18, 2022, 11:28 am

Like many in the world, I consider state executions as a type of murder, so cold blooded. Too many in the world are executed for crimes like adultery, minor drug crimes, protesting against evil governments etc, or in the USA where being Black is not a smart thing to be.

My protests are somewhat muted with terrorists, child molesters and war criminals.
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Post by Doodoo » December 18, 2022, 12:42 pm

percentages of Blacks and Whites on Death Row ( and I am sure there will be other numbers that differ)
42% White and Blacks 41%

https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/policy-iss ... he-numbers

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Post by ladda3904 » December 18, 2022, 12:51 pm

Last I heard adultery, being black and protesting the government were not capital crimes in the USA. While more blacks are imprisoned in the USA (as a % of their population) more whites have been executed since the year 2000.
From 2000 to 2021 531 whites have been executed, 315 African Americans and 91 of other races.
Whites make up 57.5% of the prison population and 56.6 % of the executions
African Americans make up 38.4% of the prison population and 33.6% of the executions.
Asians and Native Americans make up 4.1% of the prison population and 9.7% of the executions.
In Kennedy v Louisiana (2008) the Supreme court struck down capital punishment for crimes to do not result in the death of a victim.

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Post by Whistler » December 18, 2022, 1:09 pm

Hi ladda, my comments were not directed at the USA.

I am well aware that in the list of nations that execute, USA is well down the list. The figures have improved for blacks in USA of late go back over past 50 years they do tell a different story
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Post by jackspratt » December 18, 2022, 1:13 pm

noosard wrote:
December 18, 2022, 11:14 am
Pros
cost effective Nope https://www.leg.state.nv.us/App/NELIS/R ... scetta.pdf

https://www.google.com/search?q=us+capi ... ewwindow=1

does not reoffend All too often, did not offend in the 1st place - see below.

Cons
mistakes

BBC: A third of US executions botched in 2022 - report


Morally offensive
My edits.

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Post by ladda3904 » December 18, 2022, 1:31 pm

From 1976 Whites 866 56% Black 532 34% Other 160 10%
I would submit the numbers were much different prior to the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Could be wrong on that.

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Post by Khun Paul » December 18, 2022, 2:24 pm

Drunk Monkey wrote:
December 18, 2022, 9:59 am
What would your ideal method of execution be KP ??? Firing squad ? Stoning ? Hanging ? Leathal.injection ?

Mine would be locked in a room.with you for 24 hrs without ear plugs and armed only with a ripe banana.

I hope this thread doesnt turn into a death penalty pros n cons cluskerfook.. ey Jack

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No comment on your idiotic post. But then if I was lockd in with you a Cyanide pill would be poreferable having to lisen bad enough, looking even worse a overweight bald man ....nope take the pill ha ha

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