Khun Paul wrote: ↑March 24, 2022, 7:05 am
Okay smart-arse, any driver in the UK must upon receipt of the request produce a VALID Driving licence to a Police station nominated by him within 7 days . Now common-sense prevails if you are travelling around and your DRIVING LICENCE IS AT HOME THEN YOU WILL HAVE O RETURN TO PRODUCE, So 99% of drivers I ever stopped in 30 years always carried their driving licence to avoid having Problems. there was and is always one or two that thought being clever wouyld halt the process, however most then found failing to produce was a fine they WOULD have to pay. On top oif everything else
Vehicles driven by a keeper as opposed top the owner, the OWNER has a duty i9n LAW to provide details fo the driver or he also commits an offence.
What the law says and what normally happens is as different as chalk and cheese. Most people I ever dealt with had all the details so much easier, maybe you are one of the so-=called clever drivers who think they know better.
You seem from your statements to have been one of the, thankfully few, Mr plods who possibly know the law but like to insist that interpretation is correct, when challenged thier fragile ego really really hates that. Even when the correct information is posted you wriggle and twist. AND NO, I don’t think I know better, I
do know the letter of the law.
You should know better and not bring the law into disrepute by being economical with the truth.
I do know that failure to produce is an offence and that if you don’t have a license/insurance/MOT you commit offences and if you don’t produce you commit further offences and that you will be charged with those offences, however in the vast majority of cases when brought to court if the offender pleads guilty to not having, the CPS will dismiss the lesser charge of not producing.
Also NO you do not have to “RETURN TO PRODUCE” you can go to
any police station within 7 days, usually you will know the most convenient one.
HMG
If you’re stopped, the police can ask to see your:
driving licence
insurance certificate
MOT certificate
If you do not have these documents with you, you have 7 days to take them to a police station.
I have met with the kind of fragile self important authoritarian officers you seem to be. On finding that what he thought to be an easy stop and ticket for improper wearing of my helmet was nothing of the sort to save face he then desperately went over every part of my motorcycle trying to discover anything he could for the next 10 to 20 minutes to no avail finally admitting that it was in perfect condition, his chagrin was obvious and could not even give advice on any non legal requirement. He was not chuffed.
Today with the credit card sized plastic license carrying it is no problem, it is a different case with the licenses I have and have had. My current one is about 42 years old, green paper, larger and more fragile than a passport so not conducive to being carried in a motorcycle jacket pocket.
The driver of a vehicle does not need to be either the owner or keeper of it. He is required to have the permission of the owner/keeper. He is required to have a license and insurance that covers his use of the vehicle and the vehicle must either have a current MOT or be exempt.