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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by jackspratt » May 10, 2021, 10:29 pm

Jesus wept.

You are probably right at one level Alex - a comparison can be drawn between 9/11, and the K i n g David Hotel Bombing.

Wiki has the full story of you are interested enough to look. Unfortunately, the silly forum censorship won't allow a direct link.



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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by AlexO » May 11, 2021, 12:08 am

I asked if Seal Team 6 deserved to be vilified or worse for killing OBL (If it was the Israeli's it would have been an act of terror). You then go and talk about 9/11 and a hotel bomb in the old British protectorate in the 1940's are the same thing or can be compared. Seriously??? Searching for anything that makes your anti Semitism seem legitimate. Jesus probably did weep because he was executed for being individual of the Jews not because he was a Christian if the written words can be believed or he even existed. I cannot get my head round why you believe Israel to be a terrorist state while saying nothing about the barbaric animals who love to film themselves sawing peoples heads off or burning people alive and trading women as sex slaves. You have a strange set of personal ethics Pratt.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Kenr6583 » May 11, 2021, 3:25 am

A list of Israeli terrorist organizations over the years:
1. Brit HaKanaim
2. The Kingdom of Israel Ground
3. Gush Emunim Underground
4. Keshet
5. Sicarii
6. Bat Ayin
7. Lehava
8. Sikrkim
9. Kach and Kahane Chai
10. Terror against Terror
11. Revolt Terror Group

Notable individual Israeli terrorist:
1. Yigal Amiz
2. Baruch Goldstein
3. Eden Natan-Zada
4. Yishai Schlisel
5. Yaakov Teitel
6. Asher Weisgan
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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Kenr6583 » May 11, 2021, 3:36 am

Why is it that, with all of the billions of dollars the United States gives to Israel in military aid, and prior to 2007 humanitarian aid, that every time I turn on the television Israel is begging for money for the less fortunate in that country? Why do they have a 21% poverty rate? With all the money that they save with the billions of dollars they receive in military aid from the United States, why can't they help the less fortunate in their country?

Why do they need all of that land when they can't even take care of their own people?

What are they doing with all that money?

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Bonanza » May 11, 2021, 6:43 am

Alex - Not really part of this thread but the Romans defeated the Celts in 'Britain', but failed to conquer the Picts (Northern celtic speakers), hence Hadrian's wall. The Anglo Saxons did not arrive until a couple of hundred years after the Romans had departed. :D

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Udon Map » May 11, 2021, 7:26 am

Kenr6583 wrote:
May 11, 2021, 3:25 am
A list of Israeli terrorist organizations over the years:
1. Brit HaKanaim
2. The Kingdom of Israel Ground
3. Gush Emunim Underground
4. Keshet
5. Sicarii
6. Bat Ayin
7. Lehava
8. Sikrkim
9. Kach and Kahane Chai
10. Terror against Terror
11. Revolt Terror Group

Notable individual Israeli terrorist:
1. Yigal Amiz
2. Baruch Goldstein
3. Eden Natan-Zada
4. Yishai Schlisel
5. Yaakov Teitel
6. Asher Weisgan
Fair enough, Ken. But I know that you want the comparison to be complete and comprehensive, so now please make a list of Arab/Palesinian terrorist organizations over the years, as well as individual Arab/Palestinian terrorists. You'll want to include, for example, brave and noble individuals like Mohammad Tra'ayra, who broke into an Israeli home and stabbed a 13 year old girl to death in her bed.
Bedroom.jpg

An interesting sidelight to that attack is that Mohammad Tra'ayra's family now receives approximately $350/month in perpetuity from the Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund as a reward for his heroism in killing this unarmed child.

Then, just for fun, why not make two more lists? One will be of all Israeli "terrorist" operations/attacks aimed specifically at civilian, non-military and non-terrorist individuals, and all Arab/Palestinian operations/attacks similarly aimed specifically at civilian, non-military and non-terrorist individuals.

Please post the two additional lists in this thread.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Kenr6583 » May 11, 2021, 7:36 am

Udon Map wrote:
May 11, 2021, 7:26 am
Kenr6583 wrote:
May 11, 2021, 3:25 am
A list of Israeli terrorist organizations over the years:
1. Brit HaKanaim
2. The Kingdom of Israel Ground
3. Gush Emunim Underground
4. Keshet
5. Sicarii
6. Bat Ayin
7. Lehava
8. Sikrkim
9. Kach and Kahane Chai
10. Terror against Terror
11. Revolt Terror Group

Notable individual Israeli terrorist:
1. Yigal Amiz
2. Baruch Goldstein
3. Eden Natan-Zada
4. Yishai Schlisel
5. Yaakov Teitel
6. Asher Weisgan
Fair enough, Ken. But I know that you want the comparison to be complete and comprehensive, so now please make a list of Arab/Palesinian terrorist organizations over the years, as well as individual Arab/Palestinian terrorists. You'll want to include, for example, brave and noble individuals like Mohammad Tra'ayra, who broke into an Israeli home and stabbed a 13 year old girl to death in her bed.

Bedroom.jpg


An interesting sidelight to that attack is that Mohammad Tra'ayra's family now receives approximately $350/month in perpetuity from the Palestinian Authority Martyrs Fund as a reward for his heroism in killing this unarmed child.

Then, just for fun, why not make two more lists? One will be of all Israeli "terrorist" operations/attacks aimed specifically at civilian, non-military and non-terrorist individuals, and all Arab/Palestinian operations/attacks similarly aimed specifically at civilian, non-military and non-terrorist individuals.

Please post the two additional lists in this thread.
In all fairness, I don't think so.... That one took me long enough.
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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Udon Map » May 11, 2021, 7:37 am

Kenr6583 wrote:
May 11, 2021, 7:36 am
In all fairness, I don't think that question was asked...
I know. That's why I asked. One needs to look at the entirety of any situation. Is it possible to understand the years long attack by the Allies on the Germans in World War 2 without considering German aggression?

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Kenr6583 » May 11, 2021, 7:39 am

Udon Map wrote:
May 11, 2021, 7:37 am
Kenr6583 wrote:
May 11, 2021, 7:36 am
In all fairness, I don't think that question was asked...
I know. That's why I asked.
That one took me long enough to do.... To be quite honest with you, I really don't care what goes on over there, just wish I didn't have to see them every time I turn the TV on begging for money.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Udon Map » May 11, 2021, 7:41 am

Kenr6583 wrote:
May 11, 2021, 7:39 am
To be quite honest with you, I really don't care what goes on over there....
That's not what your post said or implied.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Kenr6583 » May 11, 2021, 7:49 am

Udon Map wrote:
May 11, 2021, 7:41 am
Kenr6583 wrote:
May 11, 2021, 7:39 am
To be quite honest with you, I really don't care what goes on over there....
That's not what your post said or implied.
Why do you say that? Somebody mentioned in one of their posts about Israeli terrorists, so I listed them.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Udon Map » May 11, 2021, 7:52 am

Kenr6583 wrote:
May 11, 2021, 7:49 am
Udon Map wrote:
May 11, 2021, 7:41 am
Kenr6583 wrote:
May 11, 2021, 7:39 am
To be quite honest with you, I really don't care what goes on over there....
That's not what your post said or implied.
Why do you say that? Somebody mentioned in one of their posts about Israeli terrorists, so I listed them.
The entire thread is about Israeli "terrorism." But, as I said, one can't really understand it out of context. I merely suggested an approach whereby you might provide some context. You seem disinclined to do so.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Kenr6583 » May 11, 2021, 7:56 am

Udon Map wrote:
May 11, 2021, 7:52 am
Kenr6583 wrote:
May 11, 2021, 7:49 am
Udon Map wrote:
May 11, 2021, 7:41 am
Kenr6583 wrote:
May 11, 2021, 7:39 am
To be quite honest with you, I really don't care what goes on over there....
That's not what your post said or implied.
Why do you say that? Somebody mentioned in one of their posts about Israeli terrorists, so I listed them.
The entire thread is about Israeli "terrorism." But, as I said, one can't really understand it out of context. I merely suggested an approach whereby you might provide some context. You seem disinclined to do so.
Come on man, I work 10 plus hours a day 6 days a week, I did that during my lunch time. LOL... Cut me some slack.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Kenr6583 » May 11, 2021, 7:59 am

Somebody in their post asked the name(s) of Israeli terrorist organizations, that's what I listed...

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by glalt » May 11, 2021, 8:44 am

Murdering terrorists? It's like the old story. Cut the head off and the body will die. Cutting the head off likely saves many lives. I don't see Israeli suicide bombers that kill innocent people. Do you feel sorry for Osama?

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Post by Kenr6583 » May 11, 2021, 8:46 am

I don't feel sorry for anyone who fights, kills, and dies over religion.

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Post by glalt » May 11, 2021, 8:52 am

Do you believe that a suicide bomber is going to go directly to heaven and enjoy his virgins? What kind of people believe that crap?

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Kenr6583 » May 11, 2021, 8:57 am

That's just one of the many crazy beliefs that religious fanatics believe. It's one thing to be religious for spiritual reasons, it's another to be a fanatic.

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by Kenr6583 » May 11, 2021, 8:58 am

And all religions have their fanatics...

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Re: How Does a State Built on Terorism Assume International Credibility?

Post by jackspratt » May 11, 2021, 9:36 am

Let's get back to the original point of my OP, which was that the state of Israel was built on (ie originated from) terrorism.

Enough silly deflections to the British Labor Party, and Osama Bin Laden and Navy Seals.

And particularly, the shabby tactic of alleging anti-Semitism.

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