America coming apart at the seams?

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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by newtovillagelife » June 8, 2020, 5:43 pm

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June 8, 2020, 5:15 pm
Who knows what he was trying to do? He seemed to have papers or something in his hand. He was an irritant rather than a threat to the cops. He was kind of behaving like he doesn't have the full quid.

The cops who shoved him seem to have regretted what they did immediately. They must have felt sick when they saw the blood. They would have been anxious he might die.
Well I saw them hesitate, and then pass him by, not offering any assistance, so they couldn't of felt that badly, on the other hand if he was black, he would of been beaten with batons, so he got off lucky.



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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by RLTrader » June 8, 2020, 5:47 pm

Jimmy Dore
The Real Looting Of America CNN Won’t Show You. w/Chris Hedges
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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by Udon Map » June 8, 2020, 7:02 pm

Irrelevant posts removed. This thread is about whether America is coming apart at the seams. It's not about Mussolini, Soros, or anything not directly related to the title of the thread.

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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by joudon » June 8, 2020, 7:09 pm

Obviously a biased moderator . No point ever commenting again.

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Post by joudon » June 8, 2020, 7:20 pm

Thanks to all over the years for stimilating comments even if we differed. I enjoyed it all.

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Post by pipoz4444 » June 8, 2020, 8:34 pm

RLTrader wrote:
June 8, 2020, 5:19 pm
Jimmy Dore
Cops Aim Straight at Reporters & Shoot Live On Air! w/Chris Hedges
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWMkcyC ... ploademail
What a BS Video and what a clown JD is

Reporters and Media Presenters seem to think they are a special class of people.

In my humble view (for what it is worth), most of them are nothing better than a used car Salesman on Parramatta Road. (Sydney people will be able to relate to this). Or to put it in another Way they Reporters and Media Presenters profess to place themselves above others, when they are not.

A guy walks up to Police in a Protest or Riot environment, flashes a paper/plastic ID (which anyone can make/copy) and says I am a Reporter for CNN, as though the Police have to believe him and what he says. The CNN Reporter does not have the right to be in that close proximity to the Police, if the Police deem it otherwise.

In the environment such as that the Police are now, they have to take measures and play it safe with any approaching them or getting to close. How the hell are they able to predict what he might do or what he might have concealed.

As for the other statements by Jimmy Dore in his video, all I can say is the man is a F...kn idiot and probably would be the first to call the Police for help if he needed them. [-X [-X

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Post by Whistler » June 8, 2020, 9:21 pm

could not disagree with you more pip.
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Post by tamada » June 8, 2020, 10:30 pm

joudon wrote:
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Thanks to all over the years for stimilating comments even if we differed. I enjoyed it all.
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Post by vincemunday » June 8, 2020, 10:35 pm

Awww joudon is a good bloke...
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Post by vlad » June 8, 2020, 11:36 pm

Cjd A question for you ? You told us d a St Louis retired police officer killed protecting a p and 4 other officers shot on duty.y question is if the perps were not armed would these offences have taken place and all the other crimes committed by the use of your right to bear arms.aybe like us in the UK we do not shootings daily including police being shot in the line of duty. I'm afraid your rights have backfired and your gun ownership has proven the gun crimes firmly fall into this. In a nutshell if you didn't carry guns your police would not get shot.

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Post by Udon Map » June 9, 2020, 12:05 am

joudon wrote:
June 8, 2020, 7:09 pm
Obviously a biased moderator . No point ever commenting again.
Not at all. This isn't the Mussolini thread. If you want to discuss him, feel free to start another thread, in which you may condemn Mussolini, praise him or otherwise. This thread is about whether or not America is coming apart at the seams. Different topic.

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Post by cjd01 » June 9, 2020, 5:32 am

vlad wrote:
June 8, 2020, 11:36 pm
Cjd A question for you ? You told us d a St Louis retired police officer killed protecting a p and 4 other officers shot on duty.y question is if the perps were not armed would these offences have taken place and all the other crimes committed by the use of your right to bear arms.aybe like us in the UK we do not shootings daily including police being shot in the line of duty. I'm afraid your rights have backfired and your gun ownership has proven the gun crimes firmly fall into this. In a nutshell if you didn't carry guns your police would not get shot.
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Post by RLTrader » June 9, 2020, 7:44 am

‘Light ’em Up’: Warrior-Cops Are the Law – and Above the Law – As Violence Grips America

By William J. Astore
"to serve and protect" has become "to shoot and smack down."

https://original.antiwar.com/William_As ... come-home/

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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by cjd01 » June 9, 2020, 7:56 am

RLTrader wrote:
June 9, 2020, 7:44 am
‘Light ’em Up’: Warrior-Cops Are the Law – and Above the Law – As Violence Grips America

By William J. Astore
"to serve and protect" has become "to shoot and smack down."

https://original.antiwar.com/William_As ... come-home/
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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by Udon Map » June 9, 2020, 8:40 am

RLTrader wrote:
June 9, 2020, 7:44 am
‘Light ’em Up’: Warrior-Cops Are the Law – and Above the Law – As Violence Grips America

By William J. Astore
"to serve and protect" has become "to shoot and smack down."
https://original.antiwar.com/William_As ... come-home/
One could look at it that way, sure. OTOH, what percentage of daily police interactions with civilians result in this type of incident? Very, very small, I would wager.

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Post by cjd01 » June 9, 2020, 8:55 am

Udon Map wrote:
June 9, 2020, 8:40 am
RLTrader wrote:
June 9, 2020, 7:44 am
‘Light ’em Up’: Warrior-Cops Are the Law – and Above the Law – As Violence Grips America

By William J. Astore
"to serve and protect" has become "to shoot and smack down."
https://original.antiwar.com/William_As ... come-home/
One could look at it that way, sure. OTOH, what percentage of daily police interactions with civilians result in this type of incident? Very, very small, I would wager.
Yes the latest calls(demands) are to defund the police forces in America,Their having some minor victories but if they could in anyway remotely succeed how scary would that be.

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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by noosard » June 9, 2020, 9:32 am

Imagine what would happen with no law enforcement
Reckon the streets would run red and the sky would be thick with smoke
Thats the first day

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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by cjd01 » June 9, 2020, 9:38 am

How long before they turned on each other
I note that there a more black deaths from other blacks than police by quite a huge margin and whites and brindles and by family and friends and and.

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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by Whistler » June 9, 2020, 9:43 am

A very perspective article from Astore, there is a mindset issue here.

Not in favour of defunding police at all. Neither is Biden despite attempts to state otherwise as a political stunt.

Greatly in favour of better training, better discipline and ensuring that those in the force who think they are above the law have instilled in their minds that there are limits. Ordering people inside when they are doing nothing wrong, assaulting the press, attacking peaceful protesters, these types of actions are not what is needed from any police force.
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Re: America coming apart at the seams?

Post by jackspratt » June 9, 2020, 9:54 am

noosard wrote:
June 9, 2020, 9:32 am
Imagine what would happen with no law enforcement
Has anyone seriously suggested that?

What I have read about - albeit very briefly - is to look at a potential different model of policing and law enforcement.

Certainly worth looking at in my view.

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