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Post by Kenr6583 » January 7, 2022, 7:11 am

There is no legal mechanism to decertify the election results. Try again Cholla.



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Post by glalt » January 7, 2022, 9:08 am

I for one, am disgusted with the presidents latest speech. Why does he want to resurrect the White house debacle? I thought his idea was to unite the people and here he is causing more hate. He must be worried about the next election and is starting the dirty political campaign already.

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Post by Laan Yaa Mo » January 7, 2022, 10:27 am

glalt wrote:
January 7, 2022, 9:08 am
I for one, am disgusted with the presidents latest speech. Why does he want to resurrect the White house debacle? I thought his idea was to unite the people and here he is causing more hate. He must be worried about the next election and is starting the dirty political campaign already.
I thought it was one of Biden's better speeches in which he wants a more rational and sensible country. He really had no choice but to lay blame where it belongs. Good luck to him and the U.S.A.
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Post by jai yen yen » January 7, 2022, 10:33 am

glalt wrote:
January 7, 2022, 9:08 am
I for one, am disgusted with the presidents latest speech. Why does he want to resurrect the White house debacle? I thought his idea was to unite the people and here he is causing more hate. He must be worried about the next election and is starting the dirty political campaign already.
Anything to make the Republicans look bad and stir up more bias against them. Politics as usual.

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Post by jackspratt » January 7, 2022, 10:53 am

^ Do you believe the events of 12 months ago at the Capitol to be "Politics as usual"?

I guess Biden was just reminding those many cult members in the US, the vast majority of whom are Republicans, that it definitely wasn't.

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Post by Kenr6583 » January 7, 2022, 11:06 am

Some members of the GOP don’t need Biden to make themselves look bad, they are doing just fine on their own.

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Post by Declan MacPherson » January 7, 2022, 1:41 pm

glalt wrote:
January 7, 2022, 9:08 am
I for one, am disgusted with the presidents latest speech. Why does he want to resurrect the White house debacle? I thought his idea was to unite the people and here he is causing more hate. He must be worried about the next election and is starting the dirty political campaign already.
Joebama's speech writers are trying to give the phony J6 committee some legs and justify the violation of rights of those deplorables in the DC jail. The J6 propaganda is all Democrat Communists have going into the 2022 elections. To have any chance of salvaging anything in the House or Senate, the Democrat Communists have to label and accuse all Republicans and Conservatives of being terrorists and insurrectionists.

Included in their propaganda is falsely labeling the United States a democracy when it is a republic. This is the second arm of their propaganda exercise that accuses Republicans and Conservatives of "destroying democracy." This effort is meant to push Americans to call for "a democracy", which is antithetical to the United States. Democrat Communists WANT a pure democracy and to crush the republic, the Constitution, free enterprise and individual liberty. They want federal control over everything (especially elections), which includes levers of power that will keep them in office forever.

It is no oversight that Democrat Communists never mention free enterprise or individual liberty. Those two foundations of the United States do not work within socialist/communist regimes. The Marxist idea of the collective will not tolerate free enterprise and individual liberty. It is also no mistake that the Democrat Communists repeatedly try to legislate around the Constitution and violate its principles in the hopes that some activist judges will side with them.

There will be more of this and probably worse from Democrat Communists between now and November elections. Expect it.
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Post by Khun Paul » January 7, 2022, 2:15 pm

Oh Declan I saw a flying box , if you catch it , you can stand on and vent loquaciously about all the injustices of the America dream and its so-called politicians voted in I might add by the seemingly stupid masses.
But on here it is like punching your way out of a wet paper bag, no-one cares one jot in reality .

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Post by Teacher Dan » January 7, 2022, 4:56 pm

Declan MacPherson wrote:
January 7, 2022, 5:35 am
I don't see Trump coming back during this Presidential term unless the U.S.A. falls into complete turmoil.
There is a process for this within the United States Constitution. It is not turmoil, and it has been shared in this forum more than once.

If state legislatures decertify their election results, recall electors, and the winner's electoral votes drop below 270, the election goes to the House of Representatives. There is no automatic installation. There is no winner.

The state legislatures then pick the president with each state having one vote. With Republicans having state legislative majorities from coast to coast, it is conceivable that Joebama would be GONE. That is the process.
Yep and I've said this many times too but most of these people are NOT American and the rest are American mushrooms and sheep who have NO idea how things work in America yet feel the need to show their ignorance daily.
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Post by Teacher Dan » January 7, 2022, 4:56 pm

He is right BUT what he doesn't realize and as Mark Dice confirmed the vast majority of Americans do NOT listen to the lying leftist MSM so they are NOT actually reaching much of an audience--most average Americans still don't even know that there was anything special about Jan 6th at all because they stopped listening to the lies from DC and their propaganda arm in the MSM.
'The number of people killed by pro-Trump supporters at the January 6 Capitol riot is equal to the number of pro-Trump supporters who brandished guns or knives inside the Capitol. That is the same number as the total of Americans who — after a full year of a Democrat-led DOJ conducting what is heralded as “the most expansive federal law enforcement investigation in US history” — have been charged with inciting insurrection, sedition, treason or conspiracy to overthrow the government as a result of that riot one year ago. Coincidentally, it is the same number as Americans who ended up being criminally charged by the Mueller probe of conspiring with Russia over the 2016 election, and the number of wounds — grave or light — which AOC, who finally emerged at night to assure an on-edge nation that she was “okay" while waiting in an office building away from the riot at the rotunda, sustained on that solemn day.

That number is zero. But just as these rather crucial facts do not prevent the dominant wing of the U.S. corporate media and Democratic Party leaders from continuing to insist that Donald Trump's 2016 election victory was illegitimate due to his collusion with the Kremlin, it also does not prevent January 6 from being widely described in those same circles as an Insurrection, an attempted coup, an event as traumatizing as Pearl Harbor (2,403 dead) or the 9/11 attack (2,977 dead), and as the gravest attack on American democracy since the mid-19th Century Civil War (750,000 dead). The Huffington Post's White House reporter S.V. Date said that it was wrong to compare 1/6 to 9/11, because the former — the three-hour riot at the Capitol — was “1,000 percent worse.”

Indeed, when it comes to melodrama, histrionics, and exploitation of fear levels from the 1/6 riot, there has never been any apparent limit. And today — the one-year anniversary of that three-hour riot — there is no apparent end in sight. Too many political and media elites are far too vested in this maximalist narrative for them to relinquish it voluntarily.'
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Post by Kenr6583 » January 7, 2022, 5:00 pm

Teacher Dan wrote:
January 7, 2022, 4:56 pm
Declan MacPherson wrote:
January 7, 2022, 5:35 am
I don't see Trump coming back during this Presidential term unless the U.S.A. falls into complete turmoil.
There is a process for this within the United States Constitution. It is not turmoil, and it has been shared in this forum more than once.

If state legislatures decertify their election results, recall electors, and the winner's electoral votes drop below 270, the election goes to the House of Representatives. There is no automatic installation. There is no winner.

The state legislatures then pick the president with each state having one vote. With Republicans having state legislative majorities from coast to coast, it is conceivable that Joebama would be GONE. That is the process.
Yep and I've said this many times too but most of these people are NOT American and the rest are American mushrooms and sheep who have NO idea how things work in America yet feel the need to show their ignorance daily.
Yes, you show your ignorance on a daily basis.

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Post by Declan MacPherson » January 7, 2022, 5:22 pm

Teacher Dan wrote:
January 7, 2022, 4:56 pm
'The number of people killed by pro-Trump supporters at the January 6 Capitol riot is equal to the number of pro-Trump supporters who brandished guns or knives inside the Capitol. That is the same number as the total of Americans who — after a full year of a Democrat-led DOJ conducting what is heralded as “the most expansive federal law enforcement investigation in US history” — have been charged with inciting insurrection, sedition, treason or conspiracy to overthrow the government as a result of that riot one year ago. Coincidentally, it is the same number as Americans who ended up being criminally charged by the Mueller probe of conspiring with Russia over the 2016 election, and the number of wounds — grave or light — which AOC, who finally emerged at night to assure an on-edge nation that she was “okay" while waiting in an office building away from the riot at the rotunda, sustained on that solemn day.

That number is zero. But just as these rather crucial facts do not prevent the dominant wing of the U.S. corporate media and Democratic Party leaders from continuing to insist that Donald Trump's 2016 election victory was illegitimate due to his collusion with the Kremlin, it also does not prevent January 6 from being widely described in those same circles as an Insurrection, an attempted coup, an event as traumatizing as Pearl Harbor (2,403 dead) or the 9/11 attack (2,977 dead), and as the gravest attack on American democracy since the mid-19th Century Civil War (750,000 dead). The Huffington Post's White House reporter S.V. Date said that it was wrong to compare 1/6 to 9/11, because the former — the three-hour riot at the Capitol — was “1,000 percent worse.”

Indeed, when it comes to melodrama, histrionics, and exploitation of fear levels from the 1/6 riot, there has never been any apparent limit. And today — the one-year anniversary of that three-hour riot — there is no apparent end in sight. Too many political and media elites are far too vested in this maximalist narrative for them to relinquish it voluntarily.'
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Post by Teacher Dan » January 7, 2022, 5:31 pm

This is true of both the MSM and our leftist establishment government--they are not happy with the internet messing up their takedowns as they WOULD have Nixoned Trump if not for the internet. Nixon did nothing wrong and never should have resigned but the media went to war against him as they did Trump but back then he had no alternative media--there wasn't even a Fox News--to get the truth out. This is how the left have stolen elections and removed those they had problems with for decades--JFK stole his election against Nixon the first time and Nixon knew it but he agreed not to challenge it under the condition he'd win the next election and that was his reward: to be taken down by the leftist MSM.



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Post by Teacher Dan » January 7, 2022, 5:32 pm

Declan MacPherson wrote:
January 7, 2022, 5:22 pm
Teacher Dan wrote:
January 7, 2022, 4:56 pm
'The number of people killed by pro-Trump supporters at the January 6 Capitol riot is equal to the number of pro-Trump supporters who brandished guns or knives inside the Capitol. That is the same number as the total of Americans who — after a full year of a Democrat-led DOJ conducting what is heralded as “the most expansive federal law enforcement investigation in US history” — have been charged with inciting insurrection, sedition, treason or conspiracy to overthrow the government as a result of that riot one year ago. Coincidentally, it is the same number as Americans who ended up being criminally charged by the Mueller probe of conspiring with Russia over the 2016 election, and the number of wounds — grave or light — which AOC, who finally emerged at night to assure an on-edge nation that she was “okay" while waiting in an office building away from the riot at the rotunda, sustained on that solemn day.

That number is zero. But just as these rather crucial facts do not prevent the dominant wing of the U.S. corporate media and Democratic Party leaders from continuing to insist that Donald Trump's 2016 election victory was illegitimate due to his collusion with the Kremlin, it also does not prevent January 6 from being widely described in those same circles as an Insurrection, an attempted coup, an event as traumatizing as Pearl Harbor (2,403 dead) or the 9/11 attack (2,977 dead), and as the gravest attack on American democracy since the mid-19th Century Civil War (750,000 dead). The Huffington Post's White House reporter S.V. Date said that it was wrong to compare 1/6 to 9/11, because the former — the three-hour riot at the Capitol — was “1,000 percent worse.”

Indeed, when it comes to melodrama, histrionics, and exploitation of fear levels from the 1/6 riot, there has never been any apparent limit. And today — the one-year anniversary of that three-hour riot — there is no apparent end in sight. Too many political and media elites are far too vested in this maximalist narrative for them to relinquish it voluntarily.'
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Actually there's more than you realize and more every day. I was one of them at one time as was Tim Poole, Dave Rubin, Jordan Peterson, and Brandon Straka who led the walkaway movement.
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Post by Declan MacPherson » January 7, 2022, 5:35 pm

Teacher Dan wrote:
January 7, 2022, 5:32 pm
Actually there's more than you realize and more every day. I was one of them at one time as was Tim Poole, Dave Rubin, Jordan Peterson, and Brandon Straka who led the walkaway movement.
Yes. I am familiar with all of their conversions. Intelligent and honest.
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Post by Teacher Dan » January 7, 2022, 5:56 pm

He's right REAL insurrections were like when BLM was burning DC forcing our president to go to the bunker or even what we witnessed in Seattle much of last year when BLM and Antifa thugs took over the downtown and police station. Jan 6th was a false flag organized by Feds and Antifa, allowed by Pelosi who refused national guard protection and warned all of her members beforehand. Asley Babbitt was murdered while other conservatives were brutalized by the Capitol Police in actions far worse than Derek Chauvin ever dreamed of and NOTHING has been done about it.

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Teacher Dan wrote:
January 7, 2022, 5:56 pm
He's right REAL insurrections were like when BLM was burning DC forcing our president to go to the bunker or even what we witnessed in Seattle much of last year when BLM and Antifa thugs took over the downtown and police station. Jan 6th was a false flag organized by Feds and Antifa, allowed by Pelosi who refused national guard protection and warned all of her members beforehand. Asley Babbitt was murdered while other conservatives were brutalized by the Capitol Police in actions far worse than Derek Chauvin ever dreamed of and NOTHING has been done about it.

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Who Are the Real Insurrectionists?
Recently, Democrats have been despondent over Joe Biden’s sinking polls. His policies on the economy, energy, foreign policy, the border, and COVID-19 all have lost majority support.

As a result, the Left now variously alleges that either in 2022, when they expect to lose the Congress, or in 2024, when they fear losing the presidency, Republicans will “destroy democracy” or stage a coup.

A cynic might suggest that they praise democracy when they get elected—only to claim it is broken when they lose. Or they hope to avoid their defeat by trying to terrify the electorate. Or they mask their own revolutionary propensities by projecting them onto their opponents.

After all, who is trying to federalize election laws in national elections contrary to the spirit of the Constitution? Who wishes to repeal or circumvent the Electoral College? Who wishes to destroy the more than 180-year-old Senate filibuster, the over 150-year-old nine-justice Supreme Court, and the more than 60-year-old, 50-state union?

Who is attacking the founding constitutional idea of two senators per state?

The Constitution also clearly states that “When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside.” Who slammed through the impeachment of Donald Trump without a presiding chief justice?

Never had a president been either impeached twice or tried in the Senate as a private citizen. Who did both?

The Left further broke prior precedent by impeaching Trump without a special counsel’s report, formal hearings, witnesses, and cross-examinations.

Who exactly is violating federal civil rights legislation?
It is called selective outrage.
We are in a dangerous revolutionary cycle. But the threat is not so much from loud, buffoonish one-day rioters on January 6. Such clownish characters did not for 120 days loot, burn, attack courthouses and police precincts, cause over 30 deaths, injure 2,000 policemen, and destroy at least $2 billion in property—all under the banner of revolutionary justice. Even more ominously, stone-cold sober elites are systematically waging an insidious revolution in the shadows that seeks to dismantle America’s institutions and the rule of law as we have known them.
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Post by tamada » January 7, 2022, 6:05 pm

Affirmation echo chamber in progress.

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Post by jackspratt » January 7, 2022, 9:13 pm

^ I was thinking more like circle jerk.

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Post by Teacher Dan » January 8, 2022, 12:35 am

This is something that they SHOULD have been asking from the start as not only was the Capitol security her responsibility but she refused the offer and request for National Guard assistance that day--Trump offered and the now-fired Capitol chief requested it. And they should be asking her why she refused it along with why she warned all DEMs in December that they should be careful that day--AOC admitted it ON the House floor! Releasing that info would clearly incriminate her......

'Davis, the ranking Republican on the House Administration Committee, which oversees Capitol security, said lawmakers are frustrated that Pelosi has blocked the release of information — including contemporaneous communications — showing what the Capitol Police and the House Sergeant at Arms discussed as security needs before a planned Jan. 6, 2021 protest by pro-Trump supporters that eventually spiraled out of control into the riots.'
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