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Re: Trump "wows" Germany

Post by semperfiguy » February 8, 2020, 7:02 pm

Kenr6583 wrote:
February 8, 2020, 7:00 am
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February 7, 2020, 9:40 am

There is no such thing as the separation of church and state. It's a liberal talking point, a twisting of the words and a misinterpretation of the original intent of the constitution.
Then please explain to me why churches don't pay taxes and evangelist preachers fly around in privately owned jets and ride around in limousines and live in mansions? Is that a liberal thing?
Kenr, with all due respect you are the one that believes in separation of church and state, so you will have to believe that my simple answer to your query about churches not paying taxes is valid. Churchgoers' tithes and offerings are tax exempt as they should be...the same as other charitable contributions. You can't not tax those contributions, then turn around and tax the corporate church on those same contributions they receive. That seems to be a form of double jeopardy. If the government receives money from the church, then the church is supporting the government. Where's your separation of church and state now?

For the second part of your question, there are estimated to be 167,000,000 Christian adults in America and multiple thousands of evangelists and preachers. My guess is you would be hard pressed to name even a handful of those that are living the lifestyle of the rich and famous as you have noted above. These people do exist and they are wolves in sheep's clothing as should be expected and are found in any branch of religion. I think you will agree that you can't paint all of us with the same brush for the sake of your argument that all of us Christians are hypocrites. Rather than concern yourself with the misdeeds of others, I would strongly encourage you to focus on the condition of your own soul and what you are going to do with Jesus. There will come a day when you will stand before Jesus and give an account for every idle word that has ever proceeded from your lips, even your posts on this forum. Jesus is knocking on the door of your heart and is ready to forgive you of your transgressions against Him and extend to you the free gift of eternal life, but you must turn from your sin and change what you believe about God. Otherwise, the wrath of God abides on you even now, but the Good News is "there is now no condemnation to those who have submitted their lives to the Lordship of Jesus the Christ". I am praying for you my friend! Thanks for your questions.
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Re: Trump "wows" Germany

Post by Sateeb » February 8, 2020, 7:14 pm

Apart from separation of church and state, you need to separate reality from fantasy. Trump is the reality but the mythical being is just that... A myth.

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Re: Trump "wows" Germany

Post by Kenr6583 » February 8, 2020, 7:26 pm

No semperfiguy, it was Thomas Jefferson, one of our founding fathers, who made the assertion concerning separation of church and state. Religion is a business now, and has been for a while, and when these mega churches get on TV and get involved in politics, they should lose their tax-exempt status.

And you tell me I should not concern myself with other people's misdeeds, but you are halfway around the world doing just that. What gives you the right to judge, but not me?

To respond to your double jeopardy argument. I pay taxes on all the money I earn, then why do I have to pay taxes on items I purchase? Would that not be considered double taxation?

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Re: Trump "wows" Germany

Post by semperfiguy » February 8, 2020, 7:59 pm

Kenr6583 wrote:
February 8, 2020, 7:26 pm
No semperfiguy, it was Thomas Jefferson, one of our founding fathers, who made the assertion concerning separation of church and state. Religion is a business now, and has been for a while, and when these mega churches get on TV and get involved in politics, they should lose their tax-exempt status.

And you tell me I should not concern myself with other people's misdeeds, but you are halfway around the world doing just that. What gives you the right to judge, but not me?

To respond to your double jeopardy argument. I pay taxes on all the money I earn, then why do I have to pay taxes on items I purchase? Would that not be considered double taxation?
You judge according to the flesh; I judge no one by that standard. And yet if I do judge, my judgment is true because I judge with the righteous judgement of God. 1 Corinthians 2:15 says: But he that is indwelt by God's Spirit judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

As for the other matters it appears that we have come to an impasse, so I will leave you to your god and pray that one day you will come to the knowledge of the one true and living God, the Lord Jesus Christ! Have a great day, and I wish you Godspeed in your search for the Truth.
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Re: Trump "wows" Germany

Post by Kenr6583 » February 8, 2020, 8:23 pm

semperfiguy wrote:
February 8, 2020, 7:59 pm
Kenr6583 wrote:
February 8, 2020, 7:26 pm
No semperfiguy, it was Thomas Jefferson, one of our founding fathers, who made the assertion concerning separation of church and state. Religion is a business now, and has been for a while, and when these mega churches get on TV and get involved in politics, they should lose their tax-exempt status.

And you tell me I should not concern myself with other people's misdeeds, but you are halfway around the world doing just that. What gives you the right to judge, but not me?

To respond to your double jeopardy argument. I pay taxes on all the money I earn, then why do I have to pay taxes on items I purchase? Would that not be considered double taxation?
You judge according to the flesh; I judge no one by that standard. And yet if I do judge, my judgment is true because I judge with the righteous judgement of God. 1 Corinthians 2:15 says: But he that is indwelt by God's Spirit judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man.

As for the other matters it appears that we have come to an impasse, so I will leave you to your god and pray that one day you will come to the knowledge of the one true and living God, the Lord Jesus Christ! Have a great day, and I wish you Godspeed in your search for the Truth.
LOL... It seems your hypocrisy has no boundaries. You stated in an earlier post that a gay man should not be POTUS, but it's okay for a lying, cheating, adulterer to be POTUS. But I guess you can overlook the lying cheating adulterer as long as he continues to put pro-life unqualified judges on the bench. You seem like a nice guy, but I think you are the one who is twisted.

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Post by Earnest » February 8, 2020, 8:23 pm

This thread is hysterical. It starts with Statto talking about Trump and the Germans and ends with one American quoting the Bible to another. Almost as good as the Australian bush fire thread and discussions on coal mining.

I see opportunities here, I'm going to stick around for a while.
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Re: Trump "wows" Germany

Post by Kenr6583 » February 8, 2020, 8:25 pm

Earnest wrote:
February 8, 2020, 8:23 pm
This thread is hysterical. It starts with Statto talking about Trump and the Germans and ends with one American quoting the Bible to another. Almost as good as the Australian bush fire thread and discussions on coal mining.

I see opportunities here, I'm going to stick around for a while.
LOL...I am here to amuse you

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Re: Trump "wows" Germany

Post by jackspratt » February 8, 2020, 8:50 pm

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February 8, 2020, 8:23 pm
I see opportunities here, I'm going to stick around for a while.
Good for you westers - but I don't think there will be any Saturday Night Fever like in the good old days.

As I've been reliably informed that I am up for a meeting with JC sometime in the future, I'll be heading for bed soon for some contemplation of my misdeeds.

I also need to book a flight to Bangkok to see my favourite Indian tailor, along Sukhumvit near Soi 4, for a new bag of fruit. First impressions count at interviews, and I want to make sure JC is pressing the "UP" button when the time comes.

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Post by Earnest » February 8, 2020, 9:01 pm

I think he normally delegates that task to Saint Peter but as you've become something of a legend in these parts, I reckon JC will be there to unlock the gates himself.

The Dalai Lama has ear-marked Beer Monkey, Uncle Tilo and myself as the three wise monkeys once we're reincarnated.

Failing that, I'd like to come back as Pooh Bear.

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Re: Trump "wows" Germany

Post by Udon Map » February 8, 2020, 9:58 pm

Perhaps we might give some thought to getting back to the topic of this thread....

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Post by stattointhailand » February 8, 2020, 10:01 pm

OK

Back on topic :lol:

at least you wont have to search for where you left your trousers Poo never wears any =;

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Re: Trump "wows" Germany

Post by Earnest » February 8, 2020, 11:59 pm

Udon Map wrote:
February 8, 2020, 9:58 pm
Perhaps we might give some thought to getting back to the topic of this thread....
No offence but this thread has probably run its course. That said, it's fascinating how Trump gets people so excited on your forum. He's like a catalyst agitating ex-pats, American or otherwise, quite bizarre.

Are people here really bothered about Trump 'wowing' the Germans or are they just circling, waiting for another Trump thread to get stuck into?
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Post by 86Tiger » February 9, 2020, 1:05 am

Earnest wrote:
February 8, 2020, 8:23 pm
This thread is hysterical. It starts with Statto talking about Trump and the Germans and ends with one American quoting the Bible to another. Almost as good as the Australian bush fire thread and discussions on coal mining.

I see opportunities here, I'm going to stick around for a while.

I follow good many forums, not a lot but a few. The theme I see most often in Thai expat forums is the thread always turns to posters bickering like a bunch of old ladies regardless of topic. Don’t see it that much in other forums, just the Thai forums. Just an observation.

YMMV

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Post by Zidane » February 9, 2020, 1:07 pm

Earnest wrote:
February 8, 2020, 8:23 pm
This thread is hysterical. It starts with Statto talking about Trump and the Germans and ends with one American quoting the Bible to another. Almost as good as the Australian bush fire thread and discussions on coal mining.

I see opportunities here, I'm going to stick around for a while.
The Lord he works in mysterious ways,the same as Mr Trump,Earnest......
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Re: Trump "wows" Germany

Post by stattointhailand » February 9, 2020, 1:24 pm

Earnest wrote:
February 8, 2020, 11:59 pm
Udon Map wrote:
February 8, 2020, 9:58 pm
Perhaps we might give some thought to getting back to the topic of this thread....
No offence but this thread has probably run its course. That said, it's fascinating how Trump gets people so excited on your forum. He's like a catalyst agitating ex-pats, American or otherwise, quite bizarre.

Are people here really bothered about Trump 'wowing' the Germans or are they just circling, waiting for another Trump thread to get stuck into?
I'd have earned a fortune with 2000 hits and 75 comments for one little foreign video if this was youTube :cry:

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Post by glalt » February 9, 2020, 6:04 pm

It appears that some of you socialists would prefer to be governed by unelected EU bureaucrats. Trump was elected and will be re-elected again. That gives you nearly five more years to cry and moan.

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Re: Trump "wows" Germany

Post by stattointhailand » February 9, 2020, 6:42 pm

Or more truthfully that gives the world 5 more years to worry .....

When you put a lunatic in charge of the asylum you have to expect the worst

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Post by Earnest » February 9, 2020, 6:53 pm

glalt wrote:
February 9, 2020, 6:04 pm
It appears that some of you socialists would prefer to be governed by unelected EU bureaucrats. Trump was elected and will be re-elected again. That gives you nearly five more years to cry and moan.
KP, I think he's talking about you, old chap.
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Re: Trump "wows" Germany

Post by semperfiguy » February 9, 2020, 7:15 pm

I really can't for the life of me understand why any freedom loving fairly intelligent American who is not suffering from some mental health issue could possibly say that they are not happy with the way President Trump is running the country. Forget about his brash personality and his former lifestyle choices. Who the heck cares about that as long as he's taking the country in the right direction. John F. Kennedy was one of the most beloved Presidents we have ever had and he was probably the most prolific adulterer that has ever been in the White House according to his security team that ushered all of his flings into the White House on a continuous basis. I challenge anyone on this forum to tell me one thing that Trump has done that has personally affected them negatively. I've said it once and I'll say it again....if you don't like him then have you seriously considered the alternatives, because that's the most important question you can answer? Who in their right mind would dare wish that Mayor Pete, Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren were our next President? Forget about Sleepy Joe Biden and the rest of the candidates because they don't have a snowball's chance of winning the ticket. You'd have to be out of your ever-loving mind to desire that sort of change for our great country. I'd venture to say that there's not a single American on this forum that would be happy with any of the Democratic candidates, so why can't you just quit your belly-aching and support our President for another term if he's the only viable choice that makes sense for America at this point in our history.

Seriously, in 2016 Donald Trump was elected over Hillary Clinton because the American people finally woke up at the last minute and realized that crooked Hillary would be a disaster for our country if she was elected. The choice was made between the lesser of two evils as many would say. We're faced with the same decision this coming election...the lesser of the two evils for those that think that Trump is the devil incarnate. Just imagine what you're going to get with the alternative....a communist or a socialist...take your pick; but I promise you you're not going to be happy with either of those choices, and deep in your hearts you all know it. Wake up Americans and take off your blinders of hate so you can discern clearly. Trump will be reelected in 2020 so why put yourself through the stress of hate for the next 5 years when you can soften up now and spare your health. Most of us don't have that many years left anyway, so join the Trump team and be happy!!!!!
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Re: Trump "wows" Germany

Post by Earnest » February 9, 2020, 7:24 pm

If he's such a great guy then how come he keeps firing people on his team?
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