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Post by mortsyn » September 6, 2014, 4:22 pm

Life cerificates can be signed and stamped at Udon Thani Tourist Police Station (55/55 Naresuan Rd, Udon Thani) on Monday to Friday (excluding holidays) between 09:00 to 16:00.

In order to have your life certificate signed and stamped, you should bring the following documents:
  • Passport
  • Life certificate
  • Proof of resident:
    • Your own yellow or blue book -or-
    • Rental contract, a copy of your landlord's blue book and ID card -or-
    • A Thai citizen with ID card, for example your spouse, that can verify your resident
Regards,
Kjell Nystrom
Tourist Police Volunteer Team Secretary
email: [email protected]
Mobile: +66-88-1155-713



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Post by goshawk » September 7, 2014, 12:18 pm

mortsyn wrote:Life cerificates can be signed and stamped at Udon Thani Tourist Police Station (55/55 Naresuan Rd, Udon Thani) on Monday to Friday (excluding holidays) between 09:00 to 16:00.

In order to have your life certificate signed and stamped, you should bring the following documents:
  • Passport
  • Life certificate
  • Proof of resident:
    • Your own yellow or blue book -or-
    • Rental contract, a copy of your landlord's blue book and ID card -or-
    • A Thai citizen with ID card, for example your spouse, that can verify your resident
Regards,
Kjell Nystrom
Tourist Police Volunteer Team Secretary
email: [email protected]
Mobile: +66-88-1155-713
I there a fee for this service?,if so how much is requierd,or does it depend on how the immigration officer feels on the day?

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Post by Alchai » September 7, 2014, 2:02 pm

Can someone explain what a "Life Certificate" is? :-k
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Post by trubrit » September 7, 2014, 2:07 pm

Alchai wrote:Can someone explain what a "Life Certificate" is? :-k
I would assume the exact opposite to a "death certificate. I must admit I receive three pensions every month from different suppliers , including the govt and I have never been asked to prove I am, still alive by any of them and I am knocking on eighty. :-$
Ageing is a privilige denied to many .

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Post by boes » September 7, 2014, 2:18 pm

Alchai wrote:Can someone explain what a "Life Certificate" is? :-k
When you receive pension from at least Denmark and Sweden you are required to prove that you are still alive....once a year

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Post by boes » September 7, 2014, 2:21 pm

BTW - great news Kjell !!!!

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Post by Alchai » September 7, 2014, 3:10 pm

OK Thanks (tack Boes & Kjell)
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Post by stattointhailand » September 7, 2014, 4:58 pm

trubrit wrote:
Alchai wrote:Can someone explain what a "Life Certificate" is? :-k
I would assume the exact opposite to a "death certificate. I must admit I receive three pensions every month from different suppliers , including the govt and I have never been asked to prove I am, still alive by any of them and I am knocking on eighty. :-$
As they say TB, your bl**dy lucky mate :lol:

I've had to get one filled out, witnessed and returned every year I've been here as it "safeguards the interests of the pensioners in the scheme" :roll:

At least I've now got them used to accepting a scaned copy sent by e-mail (it had to be returned by post years ago and got lost twice)

It has to be witnessed by:=
A clerk at the town hall (for residents of France)
Minister of Religion (don't think shaving head and sitting in a wat for a few weeks years coz mummy said it will get the family a few merits counts)
Police Officer (yeah right, in Thailand?)
A Bank Official (Bangkok Bank refuse to have anything to do with it as it's not banking business)
Your Doctor (Dont have personal doctors in Thailand)
A Notary Public
A Commissioner of Oaths
A Justice of the Peace
A Solicitor or Lawyer
An official from your National Embassy or the British Embassy

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Post by mortsyn » September 7, 2014, 5:15 pm

Most people receiving pension from a european country are requested to send in a yearly Life Certificate. The form the Swedish "Pensionsmyndigheten" sends you can read:

Pensionsmyndigheten accepts life cedificates issued by Pensionsmyndigheten, Försäkringskassan, a Swedish embassy, a Swedish consulate, Church of Sweden, a foreign social insurance administration, a notary public, a foreign police authority or a foreign authority responsible for population registration.

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Post by mortsyn » September 7, 2014, 5:28 pm

Text update:


Life cerificates can be signed and stamped at Udon Thani Tourist Police Station (55/55 Naresuan Rd, Udon Thani) on Monday to Friday (excluding holidays) between 09:00 to 16:00.

In order to have your life certificate signed and stamped, you should bring the following documents:
  • •Passport
    •Life certificate
    •Proof of residency:
    • ◦Your own yellow or blue book -or-
      ◦Rental contract, a copy of your landlord's blue book and ID card -or-
      ◦A Thai citizen with ID card, for example your spouse, that can certify your residency
Regards,
Kjell Nystrom
Tourist Police Volunteer Team Secretary
email: [email protected]
Mobile: +66-88-1155-713

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Post by LenArt » September 30, 2014, 6:24 pm

[-X Udon Thani Tourist Police Station (55/55 Naresuan Rd, Udon Thani)
take a fee of 300 bath and without receipt!

If you go to Ampur in downtown they do not bargain or want tips, but they
charge 30 bath and insert this in a log book![/u][/b]

Ps. For me, passport and yellow book and 30 bath workt okey at AMPUR!

Seems like it's scramble on pricing! :confused: How many farangs need this service in Thailand?

According to reliable sources, there are some offices that takes 1.000 bath

Maby more "Life Cerifcates" have more info about this ?

/LenArt

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Post by stattointhailand » September 30, 2014, 11:07 pm

Are you sure about the fee LenArt?

The "Tourist Police Volunteer Team Secretary" did not mention any fee being charged in the OP.

Perhaps the OP would like to explain this oversight or LenArts missinterpretation of what is happening?

I can't believe that the Tourist Police who are there to help us would charge a fee for doing their duty, so I'm sure it is all a missunderstanding

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Post by Khun Paul » October 1, 2014, 7:18 am

In the UK Police sign Life certificates as a service to the public. I know i did it so many times. The recipient were normally elderly and very grateful. here it would seem that the Tourist Polkice see a way to make money , not customer service but customer scam.
I agree if the Amphur sign for Baht 30 and enter details in a register, why pay the Tourist Police vast sums of money for a service most countries provide free ( except of course Thailand ) .

Luckily I do not need one yet, but when I do I will steer clear of the Police. As an aside being registered with the BE, I have signed many here for UK citizens and my signature has been accepted, maybe the rules are different in other countries, that I don't know.

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Post by BossHogg69 » October 1, 2014, 7:31 am

I often have to return one of these as I have numerous pension providers, just get a friend to sign, never a problem yet.

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Post by LenArt » October 1, 2014, 9:13 am

Hey, let a friend sign seems to be asking for trouble! Would the Swedish authorities have the knowledge of this, I am quite sure that they would do everything to force us to go to the embassy in BKK because they would certify our life! AThis I do not consider to be an option for me! Ampur and 30 bath will be my choice! =D>

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Post by LenArt » October 1, 2014, 9:39 am

"What law governs that acquired the following is required to certify that I am alive"

• Proof of residency: :confused:
◦Your own yellow or blue book -or- :confused:
◦Rental contract, a copy of your landlord's blue book and ID card -or- :confused:
◦A Thai citizen with ID card, for example your spouse, That can certify your residency :confused:

Which accommodation I have in Thailand, Is not requested in the life certificate

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Post by BobHelm » October 1, 2014, 10:50 am

Boss is talking about private pension providers in the UK, not the Swedish Government.
I have done similar to him in the past - including getting a neighbouring police captain fill & sign the form all in Thai!!

It is an auditor requirement by these organisations to ensure that pensions are not being paid to people who are no longer living. The only requirement is to prove that you are who you say you are (via your passport) & that you are breathing.. :D

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Post by LenArt » October 1, 2014, 11:14 am

Tourist Police seems to have other rules!, and refers to the law change ?

"In order to have your life certificate signed and stamped, you should bring the following documents:
•Passport
•Life certificate
•Proof of residency:
◦Your own yellow or blue book -or-
◦Rental contract, a copy of your landlord's blue book and ID card -or-
◦A Thai citizen with ID card, for example your spouse, that can certify your residency"

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Post by BobHelm » October 1, 2014, 11:36 am

Yes, I agree LenA.
Where you live has absolutely nothing to do with signing this form, which is just a 'proof of life' form.
The cynical among us might almost think that the Tourist Police are actually doing some data collection that can be used for other purposes while providing this service.. :shock:

It would be interesting to get their 'take' on why they require this additional information.
The only thing that is required, surely, is to see that the passport details match the person & the name on the form..

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Post by LenArt » October 1, 2014, 12:39 pm

Yes, BobHelm
we have to see if a replay is coming? :-)

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