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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by Whistler » January 18, 2023, 9:36 am

These posts brought a real smile on my face, everybody is an expert based on their individual experiences.

In Thailand, immigration, amphur and other agencies vary with the Thai official you are dealing with, not the law, not the written procedures not what you experienced last time.

There is no standard.


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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by tamada » January 18, 2023, 9:50 am

Whistler wrote:
January 18, 2023, 9:36 am
These posts brought a real smile on my face, everybody is an expert based on their individual experiences.

In Thailand, immigration, amphur and other agencies vary with the Thai official you are dealing with, not the law, not the written procedures not what you experienced last time.

There is no standard.
Although you are fundamentally correct in your overall assessment that everyone's experience will be largely unique, an opinion that I agree with, I would suggest that there is one standard.

In the English-speaking nations, it's called a "double standard" but not sure how that transliterates here in the land of crushed hearts, wasted opportunities and squandered earnings.
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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by Whistler » January 18, 2023, 9:54 am

Maybe a better approach from the so called experts is to predicate their advice with 'in my experience' or 'I understand the procedure is' rather than I am right and you are wrong.
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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by tamada » January 18, 2023, 10:07 am

Whistler wrote:
January 18, 2023, 9:54 am
Maybe a better approach from the so called experts is to predicate their advice with 'in my experience' or 'I understand the procedure is' rather than I am right and you are wrong.
Totally in agreement again (must buy a lottery ticket).

I usually append the dual suffixes of "YMMV" and "TiT" to any post I make that references my limited personal experiences in dealing with Thai bureaucracy.
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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by Bandung_Dero » January 18, 2023, 10:50 am

sometimewoodworker wrote:
January 18, 2023, 8:19 am
That is an interesting claim.

If you claim that in udon immigration the amount on the Bank certified statement must have exactly the same figures as are shown on the Bank book, I have categorical proof that your claim is wrong.

I submitted a bank letter and statement issued on the 29th (the day of application for my extension) that showed the balance and statement as of the 28th, my bank book showed the transactions with a deposit of ฿100 on the 29th so the bank book number was ฿100 higher than the certified letter and statement.
"I have categorical proof that your claim is wrong." You only have proof of a different experience to me!!!

The renewal I tried in 2020 was rejected because my bank statement was dated the day prior and the bank book did not show a transaction on the statement date as well. They ordered me to go over the road to the KBank and get it sorted (another 300 Baht). A very frustrating day as immigration was heaving with Covid extension applicants, at the time, and I wanted to get to the queue early thus my (ill conceived) decision to get the banking commitments done the day before.

2021 and 2022 went smoothly following the criteria they forced on me in 2020.
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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by sometimewoodworker » January 18, 2023, 2:49 pm

Bandung_Dero wrote:
January 18, 2023, 10:50 am

"I have categorical proof that your claim is wrong." You only have proof of a different experience to me!!!
The experience was different because I followed the rule
Bandung_Dero wrote:
January 18, 2023, 10:50 am
The renewal I tried in 2020 was rejected because my bank statement was dated the day prior and the bank book did not show a transaction on the statement date as well. They ordered me to go over the road to the KBank and get it sorted (another 300 Baht).
This is new information

Your original claim was
Bandung_Dero wrote:
January 17, 2023, 5:52 pm
Your "BS" bankbook HAS to reflect the final balance on your statement/letter.

The categorical proof of the incorrectness of the claim is in the fact that the bank book does not have to reflect final balance on your statement/letter.
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In your previous posting you made no mention of the fact that you did not get the letter and statement on the day of application.

This was obviously new information for you, though it has been mentioned in a number of posts In previous years, so unfortunate that you missed them.
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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by Bandung_Dero » January 18, 2023, 4:25 pm

Enough!!
As I have said in the past you will NEVER replace @Bob Helm. Don't have the intellect to read what is in front of you.
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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by sometimewoodworker » January 18, 2023, 5:52 pm

Bandung_Dero wrote:
January 18, 2023, 4:25 pm
As I have said in the past you will NEVER replace @Bob Helm.
Never knew him or of him, so I have no idea what you are talking about.
Don't have the intellect to read what is in front of you.
I certainly understand what is written.

However my Cristal ball is in for repairs so I don’t reply to what is thought but not posted. So if you mean something different from the words you use that is not me confusing what’s meant.

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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by rick » January 20, 2023, 10:32 pm

I actually had this 'exact' experience about 2020 also. Although i was sure he was wrong, the officer insisted that the 2 amounts should be the same. Resulted in another visit to the bank - they said they couldn't correct the letter, would have to wait until next day to get the same figure on a new letter. Answer - thought about it for 30 seconds, so withdrew exact amount in the account i had deposited in the morning, to make the book match the existing letter. Accepted by immigration officer.

That was using fixed deposit. I now use Mee Tae Dai account and that days updated amount is in the letter. TIT.

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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by Doodoo » February 17, 2023, 8:52 pm

Went and renewed Retirement Multi Entry Visa
Paid what I think it too much after checking with a friend in Pattaya

What should we be looking at here in Udon?

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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by Whistler » February 17, 2023, 9:13 pm

Doodoo wrote:
February 17, 2023, 8:52 pm
Went and renewed Retirement Multi Entry Visa
Paid what I think it too much after checking with a friend in Pattaya

What should we be looking at here in Udon?
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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by Whistler » February 17, 2023, 9:22 pm

Whoops, I thought it was for your friend, not you.

Disappointed.
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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by sometimewoodworker » February 18, 2023, 6:53 am

Doodoo wrote:
February 17, 2023, 8:52 pm
Went and renewed Retirement Multi Entry Visa
Paid what I think it too much after checking with a friend in Pattaya

What should we be looking at here in Udon?
There is no renewable visa, so impossible to know exactly what you paid for.

You can renew an extension to stay ฿1,900 (no change given from ฿2,000) and get a multi re-entry permit ฿3,800. So hand in ฿5,700 (or ฿6,000 you may well not be offered change). A single reentry permit costs ฿1,000.
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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by Doodoo » February 18, 2023, 8:15 am

thank you for the info regarding payment

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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by tamada » February 18, 2023, 10:08 am

Doodoo wrote:
February 17, 2023, 8:52 pm
Went and renewed Retirement Multi Entry Visa
Paid what I think it too much after checking with a friend in Pattaya

What should we be looking at here in Udon?
A non-agent, walk-in and DIY extension (or renewal of an existing extension) should cost the same in Pattaya as it does here. STWW's post has the official fees. Unsolicited 'tips' are optional but going in with the exact amount will nip that nonsense in the bud.

YMMV
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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by 747man » February 18, 2023, 10:58 am

tamada wrote:
February 18, 2023, 10:08 am
Doodoo wrote:
February 17, 2023, 8:52 pm
Went and renewed Retirement Multi Entry Visa
Paid what I think it too much after checking with a friend in Pattaya

What should we be looking at here in Udon?
A non-agent, walk-in and DIY extension (or renewal of an existing extension) should cost the same in Pattaya as it does here. STWW's post has the official fees. Unsolicited 'tips' are optional but going in with the exact amount will nip that nonsense in the bud.

YMMV
TiT
TiUT
Unsolicited 'tips' are optional but going in with the exact amount will nip that nonsense in the bud.But The IO Won't give you a " SMILE "... :( :( :shock: :shock:

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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by Doodoo » February 18, 2023, 12:47 pm

Tam so how much as I was asking

"A non-agent, walk-in and DIY extension (or renewal of an existing extension) should cost the same in Pattaya as it does here. STWW's post has the official fees. Unsolicited 'tips' are optional but going in with the exact amount will nip that nonsense in the bud."

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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by tamada » February 18, 2023, 1:42 pm

Doodoo wrote:
February 18, 2023, 12:47 pm
Tam so how much as I was asking

"A non-agent, walk-in and DIY extension (or renewal of an existing extension) should cost the same in Pattaya as it does here. STWW's post has the official fees. Unsolicited 'tips' are optional but going in with the exact amount will nip that nonsense in the bud."
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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by sometimewoodworker » February 18, 2023, 5:04 pm

Doodoo wrote:
February 18, 2023, 12:47 pm
Tam so how much as I was asking

"A non-agent, walk-in and DIY extension (or renewal of an existing extension) should cost the same in Pattaya as it does here. STWW's post has the official fees. Unsolicited 'tips' are optional but going in with the exact amount will nip that nonsense in the bud."
There is absolutely no way of predicting how much more than the official fee you may be asked to pay, as it is totally dependent on how far you are from the requirements.

If you have everything and just want to avoid going to immigration your total including statutory fees is unlikely to be more than 10k, probably much less.

The less you have the higher the fee will be, I have heard of someone with no deposit or income being required to fork over, over 25k. This will also be highly dependent upon the agent used and the office where the extension is issued amongst other factors.
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Re: retirement visa extension based on 800.000 in bank

Post by FrazeeDK » February 19, 2023, 11:56 am

seeing as how Deputy National Police Chief and former head of Immigration General "Big Joke" is supposed to either been up here or coming to visit reference the office's involvement in alleged facilitation of giving 3500 Chinese long stay visas I wonder if the office will be on the absolute straight and narrow??
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