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Post by jackspratt » March 21, 2020, 8:43 pm

Article was from new scientist magazine.
Google it yourself.
Plenty of scientific references.
Thanks.

Everything I have read so far says chloroquine may work.

This is what I read in Sciencenews:
In lab tests, it can. Both remdesivir and the antimalaria drug chloroquine inhibited the new virus’s ability to infect and grow in monkey cells, virologist Manli Wang of the Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences and colleagues reported February 4 in Cell Research. Remdesivir also stopped the virus from growing in human cells. Chloroquine can block infections by interfering with the ability of some viruses — including coronaviruses — to enter cells. Wang and colleagues found that the drug could also limit growth of the new coronavirus if given after entry. Chloroquine also may help the immune system fight the virus without the kind of over­reaction that can lead to organ failure, the researchers propose.
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/cor ... ents-drugs
Struggling to find any further credible scientific references.

Hopefully, chloroquine will be helpful in the fight against CV19, but it is a long way short at this stage of proven to be "working".
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Post by mickojak » March 21, 2020, 8:47 pm

That article i attached was from the latest edition of new scientist hence why i posted the header.
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Post by mickojak » March 21, 2020, 8:50 pm

You searched new scientist for chloroquinine.
Wrong spelling.
Try chloroquine.
Heaps references

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Post by jackspratt » March 21, 2020, 8:58 pm

Plenty of references (as you would expect) - but only 1 relates to Covid19. And it is paywalled.

https://www.newscientist.com/search/?q= ... =date_desc

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... under-way/

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Post by parrot » March 21, 2020, 9:26 pm

One of my brothers, an architect, swears by a product called copper zap that purportedly stops colds/flu germs in their tracks. One of my other brothers, a PhD in organic chemistry and now a gear head who takes joy out of making small engines out of blocks of steel, says copper is a snakeoil remedy. It's sort of like the climate change discussion............it's up to you on who to believe.

On the subject of tricksters and scams.....the news in the US last night talked about virus-related scams. One was an email that offered to show the details of the spread of the virus. 'click here', it said. The people who clicked got their phones locked and were advised they could unlock their phones for a fee. just sayin'

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Post by GT93 » March 22, 2020, 12:11 am

Laan Yaa Mo wrote:
March 21, 2020, 8:41 pm
Taiwan and Singapore seem to have got the virus under control. This is how they have done it,

https://nationalpost.com/health/how-tai ... life-go-on
Impressive. It's amazing to see that they've achieved this without shutting down their respective countries. Singapore was screening visitors from Wuhan as early as 3 January. :shock:

China after its initial mistakes seems to be becoming another success story.
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Post by pipoz4444 » March 22, 2020, 12:57 am

I wish I could believe this (Link below), but I have my doubts, given it is from the Chinese side :-k :-k

I would hope that some of the European countries can confirm their Data over the next month or two with regards to the chance of the infection being "Mild" and also whether that "Recovery" as they call it has any after effect on your lungs?

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https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/20/heal ... index.html
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Post by jai yen yen » March 22, 2020, 1:04 am

pipoz4444 wrote:
March 22, 2020, 12:57 am
I wish I could believe this (Link below), but I have my doubts, given it is from the Chinese side :-k :-k

I would hope that some of the European countries can confirm their Data over the next month or two with regards to the chance of the infection being "Mild" and also whether that "Recovery" as they call it has any after effect on your lungs?

pipoz4444

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/03/20/heal ... index.html
It is true that most experience mild symptoms. the problem is it spreads so fast and so easy that many will be infected resulting in many deaths. When I posted on this forum months ago that this was serious people did not believe me and were actually sometimes sarcastic about it. This is very serious and we are far from seeing the worst of it. Stay home if you can and stay away from others.

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Post by Laan Yaa Mo » March 22, 2020, 2:20 am

GT93 wrote:
March 22, 2020, 12:11 am
Laan Yaa Mo wrote:
March 21, 2020, 8:41 pm
Taiwan and Singapore seem to have got the virus under control. This is how they have done it,

https://nationalpost.com/health/how-tai ... life-go-on
Impressive. It's amazing to see that they've achieved this without shutting down their respective countries. Singapore was screening visitors from Wuhan as early as 3 January. :shock:

China after its initial mistakes seems to be becoming another success story.
It is something western governments should consider although it seems too late for Italy and Spain.
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Post by GT93 » March 22, 2020, 3:18 am

I read that Commie doctors and nurses from Cuba with experience in dealing with Ebola have gone to Italy to help the Italians. Hopefully the Commies will be able to help the Americans, if needed, too.
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Post by tinpeeba » March 22, 2020, 3:33 am

Here in London my nephew's wife has been ill eight days now and has tested positive for the virus. They only tested her because she has an underlying medical condition. She was very ill indeed for about five days but is feeling somewhat better now but cannot eat properly yet. The hospital phone every day to check how she is and it seems likely she will make a full recovery. My nephew has also been ill but had relatively mild symptoms and feels OK now. Their two young children seem fine.
I am staying at home apart from essential shopping as are most of my neighbours. My other half follows Thai news avidly and she is very worried that the Thai government isn't doing enough to stop it spreading and is fearful for her family in Udon.
Shopping has been difficult as the shelves are being stripped bare by panic buyers very quickly but my local supermarket has now started a "silver hour" first thing in the morning for the over 70s which helps.
Strangely the only bottle left on the shelves this morning was Corona beer!
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Post by Galee » March 22, 2020, 8:21 am

Where do Thais like to congregate?

The Wats and Temples.

Thailand not taking this seriously until they are closed.

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Post by vincemunday » March 22, 2020, 11:49 am

The forest was shrinking daily but the trees kept voting for the axe as its handle was made of wood and they thought it was one of them.

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Post by Drunk Monkey » March 22, 2020, 11:55 am

anefarious1 wrote:
March 22, 2020, 11:51 am
188 new cases in Thailand. Bad!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/thailand-rep ... 53357.html
Not suprized and im guessing the new cases are very widespread over the country ..
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Post by jackspratt » March 22, 2020, 12:28 pm

mak wrote:
March 22, 2020, 12:03 pm
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9hCevN707hw
You should read this, before taking too much notice of what "Dr" Dimke has to say:

http://www.dimke.com/bio.html

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hair- ... ronavirus/

It would be helpful if people did a bit of their own research before posting crackpot information.

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Post by saint » March 22, 2020, 12:41 pm

vincemunday wrote:
March 22, 2020, 11:49 am
A great move, not!

https://thethaiger.com/coronavirus/chin ... o-thailand
I wouldnt worry too much , as its just kicking off here , will the Chinese authorities let them come .
I doubt it . as for TAT rubbing their hands in anticipation at this new influx , like all in this government . Not an effing clue .

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Post by saint » March 22, 2020, 12:43 pm

anefarious1 wrote:
March 22, 2020, 11:51 am
188 new cases in Thailand. Bad!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/thailand-rep ... 53357.html
Tip of the iceburg . They are doing far to little , far too late .

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Post by TJ » March 22, 2020, 12:49 pm

This is an interesting development. Seems too good to be true.

MUST SEE: Chloroquine Already Used on Coronavirus in US — Study Shows 100% Success Rate — And May Act as Preventative to Virus

Dr. Mihael Polymeropoulos, the co-founder and former CEO of Vanda Pharmaceuticals, joined Tucker Carlson on Thursday night to discuss the use of chloroquine in the treatment of coronavirus. On Monday Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, reported that the anti-viral medication chloroquine is showing success in fighting the coronavirus. ** An Effective Treatment for Coronavirus (COVID-19) Dr. Gregory Rigano, the co-author of the study, later went on with Laura Ingraham and then Tucker Carlson to discuss the results from the chloroquine study. Dr. Rigano announced that their study found that COVID-19 patients who took hydroxy-chloroquine were found free of the disease in 6 days. The patients were testing negative for the coronavirus in six days! Dr. Rigano also said taking choroquine could act as a preventative. On Wednesday night Dr. Rigano told Tucker Carlson that a new peer-reviewed study out of France found that chloroquine had a 100% success rate in treating patients with coronavirus.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-blo ... 1&;page=81

Also

COVID-19 CURE: Australia Plans To Roll Out Use of Two Existing Medications After Patients Successfully Recover in Secret Trials

..A group of patients who were among the first in Australia with confirmed cases of coronavirus have been successfully treated using two existing drugs.

They were given HIV medication Kaletra and malaria treatment hydroxychloroquine in a secret trial.

The test was so successful that the same drugs will now be given to COVID-19 patients in 50 hospitals around Australia.

The two drugs were highly effective when used against coronavirus in test tubes.

Researchers then conducted a secret trial on the group of patients - all of whom have completely recovered.

University of Queensland Centre for Clinical Research Director Professor David Paterson - who is also Consultant Infectious Diseases Physician at the Royal Brisbane and Women's Hospital - was part of the team that made the discovery.

'These medications have the potential to be a real cure for all, unlike the random anecdotal experiences of some people,' Professor Paterson said.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-new ... ts?page=41

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