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Post by tamada » October 4, 2021, 4:24 pm

Clarification of the UK's new rules effective today.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-list-of ... erritories

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/countries-w ... accination

Only relevant for those planning trips to/from Thailand and the UK.


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Post by Giggle » October 4, 2021, 5:32 pm

sometimewoodworker wrote:
September 25, 2021, 5:57 pm
There has been so much suspicion and superstition that linking getting vaccinated to showing respect for the late individual and ancestors was a smart move.
You into amulets and voodoo, too?

Tell me why, if vaccinated people can contract and spread Wuhan Flu, and they are just as contagious as non-vaccinated people, there are policies around the world of ... "no vaccine, no service." Who are the Luddites, here?

Vaccinated people who are allowed into airplanes and restaurants can equally spread the disease as anyone else. So why these ridiculous, divisive (ring a bell?) policies?

You don't have to answer, the answer is rhetorical and obvious -- (see: divisive) Science is dying a slow, painful death and is now driven by hysterical, emotional nitwits.
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Post by sometimewoodworker » October 5, 2021, 8:05 am

Giggle wrote:
October 4, 2021, 5:32 pm
sometimewoodworker wrote:
September 25, 2021, 5:57 pm
There has been so much suspicion and superstition that linking getting vaccinated to showing respect for the late individual and ancestors was a smart move.
You into amulets, too?
No, but many Thai people are.
Giggle wrote:
October 4, 2021, 5:32 pm
Tell me why, if vaccinated people can contract and spread Wuhan Flu,
Nobody can spread wuhan flu as it doesn’t exist.

Vaccinated people can catch Covid19, Vaccinated people can pass the infection. They are not nearly as capable of building up virus as the unvaccinated as you can see by the hospital admission figures, note are they less as likely to spread the infection as the amounts of virus they expel are much less
Giggle wrote:
October 4, 2021, 5:32 pm
and they are just as contagious as non-vaccinated people, there are policies around the world of ... "no vaccine, no service." Who are the Luddites, here?
You really would have benefited from more attention at school as your question is as ridiculously ignorant as you present yourself.
Giggle wrote:
October 4, 2021, 5:32 pm
Vaccinated people who are allowed into airplanes and restaurants can equally spread the disease as anyone else.
they can’t, see above
Giggle wrote:
October 4, 2021, 5:32 pm
So why these ridiculous, divisive (ring a bell?) policies?
Public health
Giggle wrote:
October 4, 2021, 5:32 pm
You don't have to answer, the answer is rhetorical and obvious -- (see: divisive) Science is dying a slow, painful death and is now driven by hysterical, emotional nitwits.
Science is alive and well, see the release of the first antiviral medicine by Merck
Merck and Ridgeback’s Investigational Oral Antiviral Molnupiravir Reduced the Risk of Hospitalization or Death by Approximately 50 Percent
Your attempt at the "big lie" is as successful as your Orange messier's legal challenges
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Re: Corona Virus / COVID-19 Important Information

Post by FrazeeDK » October 5, 2021, 1:29 pm

well, breakthrough infections for those fully vaccinated are out there. A fully vaccinated person can equally spread the virus although the vaccination statistically prevents serious hospitalization and death. My 43 year old daughter, a health worker, was fully vaccinated at the beginning of the year and roughly 6 months later had a breakthrough COVID infection She was on home quarantine with her 11 year old son who also had it and likely infected his mother although we'll never know for sure.. So, certainly a fully vaccinated person could infect other fully vaccinated or unvaccinated people should they have a break through infection.. I've no serous objections to vaccine mandates but threatening people's liveliehoodds or in the case of Lousisina State government charging vaccinated employees a fee (for testing??) if their spouse is unvaccinated seems a bit intrusive...
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Post by Bonanza » October 6, 2021, 4:46 am

Yes, a fully vaccinated person can spread the virus - but a fully vaccinated person is less likely to get infected in the first place. This is kindergarden mathematics, but people STILL can't understand. :shock:

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Post by sometimewoodworker » October 6, 2021, 7:26 am

Bonanza wrote:
October 6, 2021, 4:46 am
Yes, a fully vaccinated person can spread the virus - but a fully vaccinated person is less likely to get infected in the first place. This is kindergarden mathematics, but people STILL can't understand. :shock:
Absolutely correct, and while a fully vaccinated can get infected the amount of virus they have produced in their system is smaller so their ability to infect others is much less.

There is a general inability to understand that not every infected person will be able to infect others at the same rate.
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Post by Declan MacPherson » October 6, 2021, 7:44 am

FrazeeDK wrote:
October 5, 2021, 1:29 pm
I've no serous objections to vaccine mandates but threatening people's liveliehoodds or in the case of Lousisina State government charging vaccinated employees a fee (for testing??) if their spouse is unvaccinated seems a bit intrusive...
Once you open that door, individual liberty is gone and all the power is with the state and their fascist corporate disciples. Creeping violations of rights are eventually carved in stone.

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Post by Doodoo » October 6, 2021, 3:55 pm

Thai Government presentation in English (Facebook)
October 6 Wednesday

https://www.facebook.com/thailandprd/vi ... 181365158/

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Post by Doodoo » October 6, 2021, 4:00 pm

Duclan
Best you research any info regarding Isreal Your Data is outdated and does not represent the current position

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... ry/israel/

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Post by Declan MacPherson » October 6, 2021, 10:07 pm

Doodoo wrote:
October 6, 2021, 4:00 pm
Duclan
Best you research any info regarding Isreal Your Data is outdated and does not represent the current position

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... ry/israel/
Poopoo (you like mocking the names of members here, so here's one for you), research is not necessary. This graph is meant to show the spike in deaths at the time that fully vaccinated began experiencing death beginning in July 2021. It also compares fully vaccinated to Sweden's herd immunity.

Hope this helps.
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Post by Declan MacPherson » October 6, 2021, 10:09 pm

Giggle wrote:
October 4, 2021, 5:32 pm


You don't have to answer, the answer is rhetorical and obvious -- (see: divisive) Science is dying a slow, painful death and is now driven by hysterical, emotional nitwits.
Correct. Scientism is not science. It is political manipulation.
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Post by tamada » October 8, 2021, 3:19 am

Declan MacPherson wrote:
October 6, 2021, 10:09 pm
Giggle wrote:
October 4, 2021, 5:32 pm


You don't have to answer, the answer is rhetorical and obvious -- (see: divisive) Science is dying a slow, painful death and is now driven by hysterical, emotional nitwits.
Correct. Scientism is not science. It is political manipulation.
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Post by tamada » October 8, 2021, 3:22 am

Thailand (and a whole bunch of other countries) will come off the UK's red list next Monday.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/red-list-of ... erritories

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/countries-w ... accination

Plan your Christmas shopping trip to Harrods NOW!
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Post by Mjkt » October 8, 2021, 10:19 am

Declan MacPherson wrote:
October 6, 2021, 10:07 pm
Hope this helps.
Not really, so you are some sort of authority on these issues are you? :D

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Thai Government presentation in English (Facebook)
October 8 Friday

https://www.facebook.com/thailandprd/vi ... 460672361/

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Post by Galee » October 8, 2021, 1:41 pm

According to UK Government your vaccine passport needs to be in English if visiting the UK.
A few other languages accepted but Thai definitely not one of them.

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Post by tamada » October 8, 2021, 4:11 pm

Galee wrote:
October 8, 2021, 1:41 pm
According to UK Government your vaccine passport needs to be in English if visiting the UK.
A few other languages accepted but Thai definitely not one of them.
According to DM and others who have got their Thai Covid vaccination yellow book already and posted comments in another thread, it's virtually all in English. Name, DOB, passport and vaccination info including type and date are all in English.

The fact remains that up until 4 a.m. next Monday, it doesn't qualify for quarantine-exempt entry to the UK but from that point onwards, it magically does.
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Post by noosard » October 9, 2021, 9:00 am

Anybody over 18 can get a covid vaccine in Udon
I went to the Uni yesterday for my second AZ shot and the majority of people there were under the age of 40
It was not as busy as my first shot which took 4 hrs this time less than 1 hr

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Post by tutone » October 9, 2021, 9:20 am

Regarding the Covid vaccination passport, I saw this post on the Asean Now website. "I was supposed to pick mine up Oct 7 at the Udon Thani main hospital.

Little sign saying no yellow vaccine passports as of the 7th and they don't know when it will resume.

They are out of stock and can't get anymore." The post can be viewed via this link: https://aseannow.com/topic/1234691-vacc ... t-16882336

Has anyone else encountered this problem?

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Post by ladda3904 » October 9, 2021, 11:05 am

Amazing how their story changes. I was due to pick up on the 5th. Told us the person who signs off on the passport was out sick. They will call when it is ready.

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