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Post by noosard » May 8, 2021, 11:15 am

This will put the fox in the henhouse
Six overseas travellers who reported they were fully vaccinated have tested positive for COVID-19 while in hotel quarantine, authorities have revealed. NSW Oz
This will cause a major rethink on travel



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Post by Khun Paul » May 8, 2021, 11:44 am

Mis-conception, the Vaccine does NOT stop you getting it, just stops you probably being hospitalised and dying . Dearly love to know which VACCINE they received

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Post by Doodoo » May 8, 2021, 11:49 am

Noosard
It is common knowledge that the Vaccines are 100% foolproof.

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Post by jackspratt » May 8, 2021, 12:14 pm

Six overseas travellers who reported they were fully vaccinated have tested positive for COVID-19 while in hotel quarantine, authorities have revealed.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/six-va ... -c-2788842

Some further information from the same article:
NSW Health noted that all six may have contracted the potentially deadly virus prior to their vaccination becoming fully effective.

The report stated a dose does not become fully effective until two weeks after the patient receives the second of a two-dose vaccine.

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Post by Drunk Monkey » May 8, 2021, 12:31 pm

jackspratt wrote:
May 8, 2021, 12:14 pm
Six overseas travellers who reported they were fully vaccinated have tested positive for COVID-19 while in hotel quarantine, authorities have revealed.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/six-va ... -c-2788842

Some further information from the same article:
NSW Health noted that all six may have contracted the potentially deadly virus prior to their vaccination becoming fully effective.

The report stated a dose does not become fully effective until two weeks after the patient receives the second of a two-dose vaccine.
HANG ON Cobba .... if my granny had a cock shed be my grandad .. !!

travelers were fully vaccinated ???
yet
may have ?????
and
possibly get the lurgy in a newly announced unprotected 2 week period after the 2nd jab ..

Nothing to see here just more guesswork induced non fact based journalism....move along please
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Post by tamada » May 8, 2021, 12:36 pm

jackspratt wrote:
May 8, 2021, 12:14 pm
Six overseas travellers who reported they were fully vaccinated have tested positive for COVID-19 while in hotel quarantine, authorities have revealed.
https://www.perthnow.com.au/news/six-va ... -c-2788842

Some further information from the same article:
NSW Health noted that all six may have contracted the potentially deadly virus prior to their vaccination becoming fully effective.

The report stated a dose does not become fully effective until two weeks after the patient receives the second of a two-dose vaccine.
And a tad worryingly,

"Mr Morrison’s vaccine passport comments came as he said that the government was set to lift its India travel ban on May 15."

Someone in government did recently state their opinion that Australia probably wouldn't open up before 2024 didn't they?

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Post by tamada » May 8, 2021, 12:47 pm

noosard wrote:
May 8, 2021, 11:15 am
This will put the fox in the henhouse
Six overseas travellers who reported they were fully vaccinated have tested positive for COVID-19 while in hotel quarantine, authorities have revealed. NSW Oz
This will cause a major rethink on travel
No it won't. They were nabbed in quarantine. There's plenty of stories from people that have had both shots and either caught Covid or tested +ve more than 2 weeks after the last shot. There's some, admittedly elderly, that have died after getting their second shot but before the 14-day 'fully effective' date.

As KP says, the vaccination is primarily to reduce the severity of any infection on anyone vaccinated. It has never been asserted that it makes people any less infectious (which is why it is my opinion that the UK's clamor for foreign holidays this summer is premature and dangerous). Think flu shots: it didn't 100% stop everyone from catching it but it reduced the likelihood and the severity of it if you did.
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Post by tamada » May 8, 2021, 12:53 pm

Infection/day increased by 29.2 - increasing up trend
Deaths/day increased by 0.3 - halved
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Post by jackspratt » May 8, 2021, 1:02 pm

Drunk Monkey wrote:
May 8, 2021, 12:31 pm

travelers were fully vaccinated ???
Nope.
Six overseas travellers who reported they were fully vaccinated
Now, about your tranny granny.........

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Post by Drunk Monkey » May 8, 2021, 1:42 pm

jackspratt wrote:
May 8, 2021, 1:02 pm
Drunk Monkey wrote:
May 8, 2021, 12:31 pm

travelers were fully vaccinated ???
Nope.
Six overseas travellers who reported they were fully vaccinated
Now, about your tranny granny.........
More grey cloudy areas .. so who did they report their vaccination too and what documentation did they produce to prove it .. were they housesos ????

My point being all too often there are so many ifs n ands in articles like this .. nothing is ever black n white

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Post by mak » May 8, 2021, 1:42 pm

Fully vaccinated people have a significantly lower risk of getting COVID-19 and even lower risk of severe COVID-19. It's possible to die from the virus after being fully vaccinated, but it's exceptionally rare. In the United States, out of 105 million fully vaccinated people, about 70 cases of death from COVID-19 have been reported. Mostly of the vaccinated people who died were older and frail, with significant underlying medical conditions.

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Post by papafarang » May 8, 2021, 2:07 pm

jackspratt wrote:
May 8, 2021, 1:02 pm
Drunk Monkey wrote:
May 8, 2021, 12:31 pm

travelers were fully vaccinated ???
Nope.
Six overseas travellers who reported they were fully vaccinated
Now, about your tranny granny.........
That's odd , vaccinated or not they still do quarantine . why on earth would they say they were vaccinated if they weren't ? Everything is a report ,so unless you know them personally saying nope is just an uninformed opinion. As said being vaccinated don't stop you catching or spreading. Once a country is fully vaccinated it won't go away ,just a lot more asymptomatic people ,which in turn means nobody will be able to travel a other country unless that country is fully vaccinated too. I doubt that will be viable either .
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Post by Khun Paul » May 8, 2021, 2:19 pm

As I stated the argument put out by the Anti-vaxxers, is that as it will not stop Covid why bother. What is not PUT out in Large Capital letters is that Receiving the Vaccine will probably stop you dying from it and that folks is the only statistic I want to hear.
And Tam talking about the UK, I agree, any foreign holidays should not start until 2023 at the earliest, allow the rest of the world to catch up . When this fiasco started I penned in my Diary, thats buggered travel until m2023 and it looks like that was a good guess.

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Post by tamada » May 8, 2021, 2:53 pm

papafarang wrote:
May 8, 2021, 2:07 pm
jackspratt wrote:
May 8, 2021, 1:02 pm
Drunk Monkey wrote:
May 8, 2021, 12:31 pm

travelers were fully vaccinated ???
Nope.
Six overseas travellers who reported they were fully vaccinated
Now, about your tranny granny.........
That's odd , vaccinated or not they still do quarantine . why on earth would they say they were vaccinated if they weren't ? Everything is a report ,so unless you know them personally saying nope is just an uninformed opinion. As said being vaccinated don't stop you catching or spreading. Once a country is fully vaccinated it won't go away ,just a lot more asymptomatic people ,which in turn means nobody will be able to travel a other country unless that country is fully vaccinated too. I doubt that will be viable either .
The wording 'recorded as being' should have been used instead of 'reported they were'. Otherwise, they may as well have used the word 'claimed' if they wanted to suggest that these six overseas travelers were lying on their declarations.

Thailand briefly dabbled with the reduced ASQ for vaccinated people just about the time the 3rd wave kicked off. They ignored the known impact of unregulated Songkran travel on infection in vain clutch at making the country look more appealing to tourists who frankly don't bloody exist.

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Post by Doodoo » May 8, 2021, 3:02 pm

Thai Government presentation in English (Facebook)
May 8, Saturday

Important information right at the beginning of presentation concerning Embassys

https://www.facebook.com/thailandprd/vi ... 8835987250

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Post by Zidane » May 8, 2021, 3:48 pm

More statistics for today......

COVID-19 in Thailand Update (May 8, 2021)
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As of Saturday, 1,138 (-32) patients are in critical condition, with 380 (+13) of them relying on ventilator. Only 0.70 percent of the population is fully vaccinated, with 1,262,703 (+61,445) people received the first dose, while 467,785 (+17,261) received the second dose. (NBT)
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Post by Zidane » May 9, 2021, 10:47 am

Thailand on Sunday (May 9) reported 2,101 new COVID-19 cases and 17 more deaths.



A further 2,186 people were discharged having made a full recovery.



Sunday’s cases bring the total number of COVID-19 infections in Thailand to 83,375 with 399 deaths.
(Reuters)
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Post by tamada » May 9, 2021, 11:15 am

Infection/day increased by 18.5 - down trend
Deaths/day increased by 0.2 - down trend
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Thai Government presentation in English (Facebook)
May 9, Sunday

https://www.facebook.com/thailandprd/vi ... 5130418561

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Post by Zidane » May 9, 2021, 8:53 pm

Watch out for Chaiyaphum in tomorrow's NE figures.
A cluster of infections has been found in a suburb called Gudken where my wife's ex in-laws live.
It's in total lockdown with police and army patrolling the streets.
Over 30 infections found up to now....
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