The U.K.'s Christmas Election

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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by Old Grumpy » December 11, 2019, 6:02 am

GT93 wrote:
December 10, 2019, 11:09 pm
Young people also have moral significance and their interests should be considered.
To me life is but a relay race, we have done our leg and now passed the baton on to the next generation, how fast they go is up to them, time for us to sit back and watch them .


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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by Drunk Monkey » December 11, 2019, 7:35 am

yartims wrote:
December 10, 2019, 9:20 pm
GT93 wrote:
December 10, 2019, 1:52 am
Johnson made a dick of himself in dealing with the boy resting or sleeping on the hospital floor. That should have been easy to deal with. Jacinda, in Johnson's shoes, would easily have whacked that one back over mid off for a six. Johnson was yorked. :lol:
the boy on the floor in the hospital was fake news concocted by some nut

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/ ... spital-boy
Mamouth amount of fake news n stories ..most directed at Bojo .. n the Torys .. and just about all of it stemming from.and used by labour n the lib dems without a thought if its true or fact checked ..
Corbs n co have git their hands on so many SECRET documents n reports etc its scary .. most of which have turned out to bevtotal BS ...

Vote Boris lets get Brexit done ..

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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by Drunk Monkey » December 11, 2019, 7:42 am

Old Grumpy wrote:
December 11, 2019, 6:02 am
GT93 wrote:
December 10, 2019, 11:09 pm
Young people also have moral significance and their interests should be considered.
To me life is but a relay race, we have done our leg and now passed the baton on to the next generation, how fast they go is up to them, time for us to sit back and watch them .
Excellent way to sumerise.... wouldnt it be great if all in the garde was rosey n generations handed over a perfect world over n over again .. alas dont work like that n every generation will have to muddke their way thru best as they can ..wether its in wars or health n climate issues etc.

My parents gave me all they coukd to help througout my life but i cut the apron strings many years ago .. we got to find our own path in life ... and one way to do it is to try to vote the right way at any given time so as it offers the best chance of a better life .. this election the only option fir that is Bojo as all others are so bad and IMO offer the opppsite n will devastate the country my daughter n her familt still reside in

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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by jackspratt » December 11, 2019, 8:28 am

yartims wrote:
December 10, 2019, 9:20 pm

the boy on the floor in the hospital was fake news concocted by some nut

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/ ... spital-boy
That's not what the linked article says, Izzie. :confused:

Do you have a reading comprehension problem?

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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by tamada » December 11, 2019, 8:32 am

stattointhailand wrote:
December 10, 2019, 9:31 pm
Old Grumpy wrote:
December 10, 2019, 3:37 pm
stattointhailand wrote:
December 10, 2019, 2:09 pm
"sod the NHS, schools and nationalisation, we don't get to use them anyway, why should we worry."

I'm sure Boris would be so proud of you for summing up the Tory attitude in one sentence ...

Sod U Jack I'm alright :-&
Yes I'm afraid so , at my age after so many years of worrying about all and sundry I have realised no one is going to worry about me except myself and experience has taught me its no good worrying about what you can not change, especially when it doesn't effect you. It's a fruitless exercise, better things to spend my remaining days doing especially here in Thailand, surprised you haven't worked that simple equation out . :-"
Good point grumps why should we care about the future, its the grandkids and their sprogs that will have to suffer not us. We will only have to turn a few times in our graves when they curse our selfishness 8-[
Only curse? I wouldn't want them pissing on mine so there's no better argument for cremation IMHO.

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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by jackspratt » December 11, 2019, 8:32 am

Old Grumpy wrote:
December 11, 2019, 6:02 am
To me life is but a relay race, we have done our leg and now passed the baton on to the next generation, how fast they go is up to them, time for us to sit back and watch them .
Too bad I guess if the baton we are passing on is rapidly becoming more and more poisonous, with a good chance of infecting the recipients, and then their children, and then ........

Scary ......... if you care. :shock:
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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by tamada » December 11, 2019, 8:34 am

GT93 wrote:
December 10, 2019, 11:09 pm
Young people also have moral significance and their interests should be considered.
What is "moral significance" when it's at home?

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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by tamada » December 11, 2019, 8:39 am

Old Grumpy wrote:
December 11, 2019, 6:02 am
GT93 wrote:
December 10, 2019, 11:09 pm
Young people also have moral significance and their interests should be considered.
To me life is but a relay race, we have done our leg and now passed the baton on to the next generation, how fast they go is up to them, time for us to sit back and watch them .
It's more like a sack race these days. I reckon the ill-conceived Tory/Lib Dem's 3-legged race started it.

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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by Drunk Monkey » December 11, 2019, 4:16 pm

jackspratt wrote:
December 11, 2019, 8:28 am
yartims wrote:
December 10, 2019, 9:20 pm

the boy on the floor in the hospital was fake news concocted by some nut

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/ ... spital-boy
That's not what the linked article says, Izzie. :confused:

Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
Some more info.on the boy on hospital floor

https://youtu.be/UkZdligY19U

Or

Is this more new fake news about old fake news ...this is how bad all this bollocks has got ??? .. the days when politicians had respect is well.n truly over they will stoop.to.any level.to get power ..n that goes for the lot ov em

*******

vote ------ Boris n lets get Brexit done

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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by jackspratt » December 11, 2019, 4:49 pm

The ------ in this case is clearly the guy who made the Youtube you link to - Mahyar Tousi.

When trying to defend Johnson, he uses different camera angles (ie initially only uses close-ups) to that appearing in the original video from the ITV reporter, to try and discredit the reporter.

FAKE NEWS

However, the first thing that jumps out from Mr Tousi's YT is that he is also using it try and flog Brexit merchandise. :shock:
Mahyar Tousi
Pinned by Mahyar Tousi
Mahyar Tousi
15 hours ago
Need to buy a Christmas present? Get a Brexit T-shirts and other merchandise here: https://shop.spreadshirt.co.uk/mahyartousi
As for the incident with the boy itself, I think it is pretty safe to believe the news coming straight from the horse's mouth ie
.......Details of the Yorkshire Post's story were confirmed by a written statement, issued by Leeds Teaching Hospitals NHS Trust chief medical officer Dr Yvette Oade, that included an apology to Jack and his family.

"We are extremely sorry that there were only chairs available in the treatment room, and no bed. This falls below our usual high standards, and for this we would like to sincerely apologise to Jack and his family," Dr Oade said......
The ITV video, plus other details, are all here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-11/ ... r/11789014

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Post by Drunk Monkey » December 11, 2019, 4:58 pm

You mean Mr Tousi isnt a respected journalist Jack ..well.knock.me over with a feather ..

Some if his Brexit merchadise is rather spiffing IMO..

Another topic ..might vote for the undemocratic liberal.democrat Jo Swinson ..just been watching her on telly n shes got a massive set of jugs .. or are they fake news ?.

Keep up.the good work.mr Tousi .. love your YT channel subscribe now to here the truth ..the whole n nothing like the truth

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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by stattointhailand » December 11, 2019, 6:11 pm

Brexiteers started off with a pack of lies and haven't changed one little bit in the last 3 yrs =;

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The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by Barney » December 11, 2019, 6:13 pm

jackspratt wrote:
Old Grumpy wrote:
December 11, 2019, 6:02 am
To me life is but a relay race, we have done our leg and now passed the baton on to the next generation, how fast they go is up to them, time for us to sit back and watch them .
Too bad I guess if the baton we are passing on is rapidly becoming more and more poisonous, with a good chance of infecting the recipients, and then their children, and then ........

Scary ......... if you care. :shock:
Your probably correct in your summation Mr Spratt but most times the baton is not always poisoned but gets dropped by the mob in power, then a change of govt has to start again then stuffs it all up again until they also drop it.
All countries can and do throw out the best leader their country has ever had throughout modern times. They and their policies never last usually attacked by a backstabber or lying opposition. For some crazy reason the human race is always trying to reinvent the wheel.
Some times things aren’t broke.


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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by Drunk Monkey » December 11, 2019, 6:22 pm

stattointhailand wrote:
December 11, 2019, 6:11 pm
Brexiteers started off with a pack of lies and haven't changed one little bit in the last 3 yrs =;
WALOB .. thats your opinion as a remoaner .. u do t have to be a rocket scientist tonsee what a coruot money grabbing union the EU is .. i hope we gwt Brexit done a d tge whole EU house of cards comes tumbling down ...

If you want to.go.back in history further just remember theblies that wwre spouted to get the UK involved in the first place ..common market my arse
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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by tamada » December 11, 2019, 7:21 pm

Drunk Monkey wrote:
December 11, 2019, 4:16 pm
jackspratt wrote:
December 11, 2019, 8:28 am
yartims wrote:
December 10, 2019, 9:20 pm

the boy on the floor in the hospital was fake news concocted by some nut

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/ ... spital-boy
That's not what the linked article says, Izzie. :confused:

Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
Some more info.on the boy on hospital floor

https://youtu.be/UkZdligY19U

Or

Is this more new fake news about old fake news ...this is how bad all this bollocks has got ??? .. the days when politicians had respect is well.n truly over they will stoop.to.any level.to get power ..n that goes for the lot ov em

*******

vote ------ Boris n lets get Brexit done

Dm.
Nice sleuthing there DM. Fact checking... it isn't just for the Democrats.

Wasn't it a Corbynista that called the cops when he heard Boris and his moll having a shouting match in their flat a few months ago?

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Post by stattointhailand » December 11, 2019, 7:36 pm

"Wasn't it a Corbynista that called to cops when he heard Boris and his moll having a shouting match a few months ago?"

No tam it was a concerned neighbour who alerted the correct authorities fearing for his girlfriends safety ....... theres not too many "Corbynistas" that can afford to live in that neighbourhood :roll:

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Post by Drunk Monkey » December 11, 2019, 7:50 pm

tamada wrote:
December 11, 2019, 7:21 pm
Drunk Monkey wrote:
December 11, 2019, 4:16 pm
jackspratt wrote:
December 11, 2019, 8:28 am
yartims wrote:
December 10, 2019, 9:20 pm

the boy on the floor in the hospital was fake news concocted by some nut

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/ ... spital-boy
That's not what the linked article says, Izzie. :confused:

Do you have a reading comprehension problem?
Some more info.on the boy on hospital floor

https://youtu.be/UkZdligY19U

Or

Is this more new fake news about old fake news ...this is how bad all this bollocks has got ??? .. the days when politicians had respect is well.n truly over they will stoop.to.any level.to get power ..n that goes for the lot ov em

*******

vote ------ Boris n lets get Brexit done

Dm.
Nice sleuthing there DM. Fact checking... it isn't just for the Democrats.

Wasn't it a Corbynista that called the cops when he heard Boris and his moll having a shouting match in their flat a few months ago?
Tam... precisely ..that incident was the.start of the election BS .... the guy whon rang the old bill was a remainer 55555
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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by caducus » December 12, 2019, 8:18 am

A very great man once said, "The language of priorities is the religion of Socialism".

That man was Aneurin Bevan.

Having read and digested the Labour Manifesto I have had no hesitance in casting my vote for the Labour candidate.

Although I am now retired, I was particularly taken by the 'Green Industrial Revolution', which attempts to bequeath a livable world for first-time voters.

It is a very detailed and far-reaching manifesto and after the Labour Party have been elected they will need a painstaking process of the 'language of priorities'.

No other party can match their need for change or vision for the future.

There is only one way for a man, or woman, with concern for all of humanity to vote.

VOTE LABOUR

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Post by saint » December 12, 2019, 9:04 am

I dont read socialist propaganda , but does it say how they propose to pay for all this wonderful change , or how they are going to get the money ?
Remember the last election when they promised to scrap student fees , and write off student debts .
If you have no chance of winning you can promise the earth and beyond , can you not .
Corbyn and his motley crew are a mere shadow of Bevins labour party , and a threat to the country .

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Re: The U.K.'s Christmas Election

Post by tamada » December 12, 2019, 9:57 am

I am voting with my conscience, not my heart or my gut, but my conscience.

Looking back on how Labour repeatedly did nothing for the NHS when they were in power and how quickly and desperately Corbyn lamped on the the 'boy on the floor' NHS scandal that never was...

Looking back on how Johnson has flim-flammed and flip-flopped his way around any in-depth questioning of Tory policy, including a consistent trait to say things that are contrary to what his own ministers are saying and what is own deal is claiming...

Looking back on how the Lib Dems shot themselves in the foot right from the get go with their hapless revoke Article 50 nonsense delivered alongside Swinsons' poor (wo)mans 'I have a dream' moment and then belatedly realizing their horse had truly bolted, urging people to vote tactically...

And totally discounting the narcissism and self-aggrandizement that drives the Brexit party and the SNP respectively...

The constituency I am voting in is one of those marginal ones. Labour are freshly incumbent after many years of a Tory representation that largely did nothing but check the party line boxes and cash their cheques. So the Tories have a younger, brighter and quite likeable candidate this time around. The Labour incumbent is also younger, likeable, very motivated and socially active but again, just a rote box checker.... who, on reviewing her voting record on successive Brexit bills in the last parliament, appears able to ignore that her constituents voted resoundingly to Leave in the referendum.

Despite the special interests that have hijacked a Swedish schoolgirls concerns for her environment and ignoring the monster raving loonyness of the Extinction Rebellion, regardless of my two score and two years working as a white Anglo-saxon male exclusively in the hydrocarbon sector where they probably consider my life's work achievements as being recklessly damaging and ultimately worthless, I am voting Green.

Not for me. For my children and their children.
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