The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
Eight million is a lot of wonga but to some of these contributors to UK political parties and especially the die-hard socialist breed, I am pretty sure it's a drop in the ocean compared to all the favors that will forever be bestowed on them and their descendents. Lordships, Ladyships, gongs and other entitlements and friperies. The Unions of course will levy a nominal surcharge on the dues of their loyal membership in order to "save the party" and all that rot.
Starmer himself being an immensely experienced and amply rewarded barrister with all the wiles of the City will no doubt wangle a discount from the old boys club of judges.
Starmer himself being an immensely experienced and amply rewarded barrister with all the wiles of the City will no doubt wangle a discount from the old boys club of judges.
- vincemunday
- udonmap.com
- Posts: 3709
- Joined: December 11, 2014, 11:36 pm
- Location: Udon Thani ex North Stifford and Ramsgate
- Contact:
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
Oh the use of emojis to enforce your point, ermmmm grow up eh!jackspratt wrote: ↑April 19, 2020, 9:05 pmDo you want to jump in the pot with me, vince - or are you happy to stick around in the kettle?vincemunday wrote: ↑April 19, 2020, 8:48 pmJack as always you know EVERYTHING mate, you are getting extremely boring and it would seem most people find you very tedious, give it a rest eh!
In fact you should change your tag to “knowitall”
,
The forest was shrinking daily but the trees kept voting for the axe as its handle was made of wood and they thought it was one of them.
- vincemunday
- udonmap.com
- Posts: 3709
- Joined: December 11, 2014, 11:36 pm
- Location: Udon Thani ex North Stifford and Ramsgate
- Contact:
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
With the number of people involved Tam and the way litigation is going in the UK, £8M isn’t an awful lot, however, have to agree about the favours etc, that’s gone on forever so why would we think it would change now?
The forest was shrinking daily but the trees kept voting for the axe as its handle was made of wood and they thought it was one of them.
- Drunk Monkey
- udonmap.com
- Posts: 10046
- Joined: October 14, 2013, 4:39 pm
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
Hoots Tarm ..i never thought of that ....... didnt know Vince was buddies with Mr Farage , i do however share and agree with his respect AGAIN for Nige .. possibly the most influential politicians of this era AGAINtamada wrote: ↑April 19, 2020, 8:26 pmOh God not this, next thing you know vince will chime in (again) and tell us (again) all about his chum (again) and other political lightweights and also-rans.Drunk Monkey wrote: ↑April 19, 2020, 8:15 pmCredible opposition doesnt have to be in the form of Labour .. why not a new party formed and headed by Nigel Farage ..
DM
Again.
Traffic report in the morning now ive stopped sulking .
DM
Claret n Blue all way thru .. Up the Iron
L2 Season 19/20 Codheads 0 Scunny 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2qrsItFUug
8 minutes is the point of lift off !!!!!!!
L2 Season 19/20 Codheads 0 Scunny 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2qrsItFUug
8 minutes is the point of lift off !!!!!!!
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
Labour running out of money ? Oh dear, how sad, never mind
Other influential politicians, well we do have Nigel Farage, who reminds me of Enoch Powell a man vilified for his straight talking and now look , his observations and what is happening in the country is coming back to haunt us .
Like it or not the current ESTABLISHMENT will not allow Nigel to run anything and until the general Population gets a set and acts, nowt will change I fear.
Other influential politicians, well we do have Nigel Farage, who reminds me of Enoch Powell a man vilified for his straight talking and now look , his observations and what is happening in the country is coming back to haunt us .
Like it or not the current ESTABLISHMENT will not allow Nigel to run anything and until the general Population gets a set and acts, nowt will change I fear.
- vincemunday
- udonmap.com
- Posts: 3709
- Joined: December 11, 2014, 11:36 pm
- Location: Udon Thani ex North Stifford and Ramsgate
- Contact:
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
I think the UK public are ready for change Paul, the Brexit Party secured plenty of votes at the last election but I think people were genuinely worried that a vote for them might put Steptoe, Abacus and the rest of them in no.10, a scary prospect and I understand why they would vote tactically as they did, the result being the worst trouncing Labour have had in nearly a hundred years.
My thoughts are this, if Nigel decides to start a new party he has 4 years to make his party mainstream, it might not be as difficult as we think because Labour as a party is in it’s death throes and unless something radical changes it’s in trouble. The big IF is whether Nigel decides to go for it, I’m sure he has the financial backing and the revenue from people joining the party would be more than enough. My best guess is that he will, I’ve been contacted by other activists and there’s definitely an air that something will happen soon. Nigel has started to do live webcasts that attract hundreds of thousands of viewers, these aren’t reported upon by MSM but they’re becoming very popular. I’m hopeful that something will be announced soon, heaven knows the UK needs him, there is a genuine need for a decent opposition party that will hold the Tory feet to the fire and ensure things get done and I don’t just mean Brexit.
My thoughts are this, if Nigel decides to start a new party he has 4 years to make his party mainstream, it might not be as difficult as we think because Labour as a party is in it’s death throes and unless something radical changes it’s in trouble. The big IF is whether Nigel decides to go for it, I’m sure he has the financial backing and the revenue from people joining the party would be more than enough. My best guess is that he will, I’ve been contacted by other activists and there’s definitely an air that something will happen soon. Nigel has started to do live webcasts that attract hundreds of thousands of viewers, these aren’t reported upon by MSM but they’re becoming very popular. I’m hopeful that something will be announced soon, heaven knows the UK needs him, there is a genuine need for a decent opposition party that will hold the Tory feet to the fire and ensure things get done and I don’t just mean Brexit.
The forest was shrinking daily but the trees kept voting for the axe as its handle was made of wood and they thought it was one of them.
-
- udonmap.com
- Posts: 3516
- Joined: February 28, 2008, 5:31 pm
- Location: On lookout duty ,spotting for snipers .
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
Whilst i agree that the country needs a decent opposition , i doubt Nigel has the desire or stomach to actually form another party .
He is very good at highlighting the countries problems , but not so quick with any solutions .
Good after dinner speaker though , ill give him that .
He is very good at highlighting the countries problems , but not so quick with any solutions .
Good after dinner speaker though , ill give him that .
- vincemunday
- udonmap.com
- Posts: 3709
- Joined: December 11, 2014, 11:36 pm
- Location: Udon Thani ex North Stifford and Ramsgate
- Contact:
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
I’m hopeful Saint, I’m sure we’ll find out pretty quickly if he does, I just checked and his webcasts from last week had well over 1.4m views and his Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/13373766667384 ... 811312269/) has over 900k followers (Keir Starmer only has 65k), add to that his Twitter account etc that’s a huge following, whether he likes it or not he’s a natural politician, he hasn’t got it in him to just let things slide and even though he’s done so much already I think he will step up to the plate. Rumours are rife and he hasn’t denied any yet.
The forest was shrinking daily but the trees kept voting for the axe as its handle was made of wood and they thought it was one of them.
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
^ If I recall correctly, Thaksin reportedly had more FB friends than Abhisit and a lot of good that did him. I had a laugh at those irrelevant comparisons when they were trotted out maybe over 15 years ago before the Twittersphere had been properly inflated.
Social media, like opinion polls are just another flawed metric. A quick and easy way of gauging (misrepresenting) someone's popularity. If sheer volume of Twittering is anything to go by, then Donny John is the undisputed world leader... but he's not is he?
Undeniably these "like" numbers have been bandied about by all and sundry as some measure of acceptability but I am a bit old school and prefer the dipstick... and being able to know one when I see one.
However, in the current vacuum of serious and credible opposition in UK politics, everyone deserves a chance. Despite my low-regard for Farage as a real contender, he does galvanize and motivate far, far better than he leads so the key (once again) will not be so much as who his cheerleaders are and how many of them post "likes" but who's funding his newest one-trick pony.
Social media, like opinion polls are just another flawed metric. A quick and easy way of gauging (misrepresenting) someone's popularity. If sheer volume of Twittering is anything to go by, then Donny John is the undisputed world leader... but he's not is he?
Undeniably these "like" numbers have been bandied about by all and sundry as some measure of acceptability but I am a bit old school and prefer the dipstick... and being able to know one when I see one.
However, in the current vacuum of serious and credible opposition in UK politics, everyone deserves a chance. Despite my low-regard for Farage as a real contender, he does galvanize and motivate far, far better than he leads so the key (once again) will not be so much as who his cheerleaders are and how many of them post "likes" but who's funding his newest one-trick pony.
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
I pout N Farage in the same box as a Napoleon, whose hat was worth 10000 men on the battlefield. Nigel has the same persona, very good at leading needs damn good sidekicks to do his bidding then we have a winner.
- vincemunday
- udonmap.com
- Posts: 3709
- Joined: December 11, 2014, 11:36 pm
- Location: Udon Thani ex North Stifford and Ramsgate
- Contact:
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
He has got some decent people around him and I agree fully, it needs to be a party not a one man band, I think he’s more than capable of forming a good, solid opposition. Personally I think what’s needed is a set of strong policies, a manifesto that can be delivered upon because one things’s for sure, he wouldn’t get a second bite at the cherry if he didn’t deliver, it’d be no good standing on a bunch of policies only to U turn at a later date.
The forest was shrinking daily but the trees kept voting for the axe as its handle was made of wood and they thought it was one of them.
- Drunk Monkey
- udonmap.com
- Posts: 10046
- Joined: October 14, 2013, 4:39 pm
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
That would be a first in UK politics .. a party that actually delivers 100% on the manifesto they get elected on .. past history shows the manifesto is mostly wing n piss just to get the vote after which its out the window on large parts of it .vincemunday wrote: ↑April 20, 2020, 11:07 amHe has got some decent people around him and I agree fully, it needs to be a party not a one man band, I think he’s more than capable of forming a good, solid opposition. Personally I think what’s needed is a set of strong policies, a manifesto that can be delivered upon because one things’s for sure, he wouldn’t get a second bite at the cherry if he didn’t deliver, it’d be no good standing on a bunch of policies only to U turn at a later date.
DM
Claret n Blue all way thru .. Up the Iron
L2 Season 19/20 Codheads 0 Scunny 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2qrsItFUug
8 minutes is the point of lift off !!!!!!!
L2 Season 19/20 Codheads 0 Scunny 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2qrsItFUug
8 minutes is the point of lift off !!!!!!!
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
Just a small point because I always swore I would never get into religious or political debate on a forum but, you guys are pretty much all the same demographic.
Try speaking to someone who is less than, say 35. Try looking at the voting numbers on Brexit by age. The answers you might get about the Labour party and Farage will be massively different.
Feast on that for a while. Over and out.
Try speaking to someone who is less than, say 35. Try looking at the voting numbers on Brexit by age. The answers you might get about the Labour party and Farage will be massively different.
Feast on that for a while. Over and out.
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
samster wrote: ↑April 20, 2020, 3:18 pmJust a small point because I always swore I would never get into religious or political debate on a forum but, you guys are pretty much all the same demographic.
Try speaking to someone who is less than, say 35. Try looking at the voting numbers on Brexit by age. The answers you might get about the Labour party and Farage will be massively different.
Feast on that for a while. Over and out.
Oh, and PS, try speaking to someone who actually lives in the UK
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
Oh, and PS, try speaking to someone who actually lives in the UK
- vincemunday
- udonmap.com
- Posts: 3709
- Joined: December 11, 2014, 11:36 pm
- Location: Udon Thani ex North Stifford and Ramsgate
- Contact:
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
Another left winger in denial, nothing unusual.
The forest was shrinking daily but the trees kept voting for the axe as its handle was made of wood and they thought it was one of them.
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
Final word. You dont know my politics nor my background. A ridiculous comment.
- vincemunday
- udonmap.com
- Posts: 3709
- Joined: December 11, 2014, 11:36 pm
- Location: Udon Thani ex North Stifford and Ramsgate
- Contact:
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
Why would I want to know your background? I've absolutely no interest whatsoever. Do you think when we come here we stop communicating with people at home, that we stop getting involved in politics, that we lose our ability to read? The labour party is in a big mess and whats more we rely on people like you to keep it so, keep up the good work.
The forest was shrinking daily but the trees kept voting for the axe as its handle was made of wood and they thought it was one of them.
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
Ok, you've sucked me in with personal comments rather than my general point.
Why would you care about my background? Because my personal experiences in life and recent family history are directly relevant to any debate on Brexit and nationalistic or extreme right wing politics. This colours my personal opinion of Mr Farage.
In fact, my, personal politics are far from being Labour . I dont agree with other left wingers on politics generally but also dont agree with the pathetic vilification of someone who holds different views by calling them "snowflakes", "libtards" etc
I just happen to believe in democracy in the fullest sense and listen to other demographic's views. "Another left winger in denial" makes erroneous presumptions and clearly suggests that your politics are the only ones that matter. It is a fact that many people outside of this forums demographic were remainers and Labour voters.
I must be getting stir crazy......over and out. Again
Why would you care about my background? Because my personal experiences in life and recent family history are directly relevant to any debate on Brexit and nationalistic or extreme right wing politics. This colours my personal opinion of Mr Farage.
In fact, my, personal politics are far from being Labour . I dont agree with other left wingers on politics generally but also dont agree with the pathetic vilification of someone who holds different views by calling them "snowflakes", "libtards" etc
I just happen to believe in democracy in the fullest sense and listen to other demographic's views. "Another left winger in denial" makes erroneous presumptions and clearly suggests that your politics are the only ones that matter. It is a fact that many people outside of this forums demographic were remainers and Labour voters.
I must be getting stir crazy......over and out. Again
- vincemunday
- udonmap.com
- Posts: 3709
- Joined: December 11, 2014, 11:36 pm
- Location: Udon Thani ex North Stifford and Ramsgate
- Contact:
Re: The UK Labour Party faces bankruptcy
I still have no interest in your background or what you think Brexit has done to your family, it's of no interest to me whatsoever but I've noticed you do love the word demographic, is it a new word? I never referred to you as a libtard nor a snowflake, you came into a thread telling me i should check the voting age of brexit voters and speak to people under 35, as I was one of the activists working with UKIP you think I might have already done that? By the by, we might even be in the same "demographic" you're assuming too much.
The forest was shrinking daily but the trees kept voting for the axe as its handle was made of wood and they thought it was one of them.