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Re: climate change

Post by tamada » October 20, 2022, 5:44 pm

How about the 306.7 million sacred cows that wander around India farting and belching? That includes the ones wandering in and out of their coal-fired power stations?


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Re: climate change

Post by FrazeeDK » October 20, 2022, 6:50 pm

I seem to remember the Paris climate agreements gave a lot of slack to India as a "developing" economy...
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Re: climate change

Post by jackspratt » October 20, 2022, 6:59 pm

noosard wrote:
October 20, 2022, 3:20 pm
......McKenzie argues that any “reductions will be replaced by less efficient foreign farmers”.
McKenzie who?

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Re: climate change

Post by noosard » October 21, 2022, 5:01 am

jackspratt wrote:
October 20, 2022, 6:59 pm
noosard wrote:
October 20, 2022, 3:20 pm
......McKenzie argues that any “reductions will be replaced by less efficient foreign farmers”.
McKenzie who?
Does it matter who?

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Re: climate change

Post by jackspratt » October 21, 2022, 7:10 am

Yes .... quite obviously.

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Re: climate change

Post by noosard » October 21, 2022, 8:14 am

What will happen is like everywhere else local produce too expensive so they will import cheaper
Then blame the producer they are too expensive

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Re: climate change

Post by vidmaster » October 21, 2022, 4:33 pm

That’s the way to do it 😎👍
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Re: climate change

Post by jackspratt » October 21, 2022, 5:23 pm

I wonder how all those Porsches got into a Volkswagen factory. :-k

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Re: climate change

Post by Bandung_Dero » October 21, 2022, 6:05 pm

You're taking the piss, surely, Jack.

Anyway, I liked the way the French just dragged these wackers away leaving their finger prints glued to the pavement in a similar protest!
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Re: climate change

Post by FrazeeDK » October 22, 2022, 8:17 am

hope they wore their Depends!!!!!
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Re: climate change

Post by pipoz4444 » October 22, 2022, 11:56 am

FrazeeDK wrote:
October 20, 2022, 6:50 pm
I seem to remember the Paris climate agreements gave a lot of slack to India as a "developing" economy...

And to China: The 2060 pledge is so far down the track, no one will be alive to remember, that it was ever said? 2060 BS. Certainly not from this Forum

Not to mention that it is worth diddly squat, coming from China. Name one commitment or promise or pledge, that China has ever met or kept. (Oh yes China's pledge to Hong Kong for considerable political autonomy for fifty years under a framework known as “one country, two systems.” China just left out small print - how China would interpret it when the time comes and it will be the same when it the time comes in 2060 when they interpret their meaning of "carbon neutrality".

And the Climate Change guru's just lap it up from China, like one would do with Mango Sticky rice. \:D/ \:D/ :-k

With near on 36% of the worlds Population between the two countries India and China and some total 8.4% of the Worlds Landmass ( China at 6.4% and India at 2.0% ) and holding tops spots for World C02 Emission Contribution: China with more than 10,065 million tons of CO2 released (No 1 in the World) and India with 2,654 million tons of CO2 (No 3 in the World), well enough said

And all the the Climate Change guru's keep sucking their male appendage, for anything the can get from both Countries. Just makes one laugh at their naivety or is it stupidity =D> =D> :drunk: :guitar: :fryingpan:

Question to those who believe in China's pledges, "Have you every been out in a back alley of the China, Hong Kong or Chinatown restaurant area, and seen how they recycle"?? and then asked yourself the second & third questions: "Where does it all go and how is it treated" - Its the culture of the people * that will need to change :-k and that is not going to happen any time soon in China


Extract from Link: Two days prior to the start of COP26 last month, China submitted its updated 2030 climate pledge and a new long-term climate strategy (LTS) to the UN.

The submission means China has now officially confirmed that its commitment to tackle climate change under the terms of the Paris Agreement will see it peak its carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions before 2030 and achieve net-zero emissions before 2060.

Notably, major targets in the revised 2030 pledge (known as a nationally determined contribution, NDC) stay intact from the announcements made by China’s leader Xi Jinping in December 2020. But it did not specify the long-anticipated peaking date, the level at which the country’s emissions would peak, or how long they would plateau before starting to drop.

What is in China’s new climate pledges? The headline targets in China’s updated NDC are pledges to reach a peak in CO2 emissions before 2030 and achieve “carbon neutrality” before 2060.

The document – which is titled, “China’s achievements, new goals and new measures for nationally determined contributions” – was published on 28 October 2021, just days before COP26.

In terms of quantitative targets for 2030, it pledges to cut CO2 emissions per unit of GDP by more than 65% from 2005 levels, increase the share of non-fossil energy to around 25% and raise forest stock volumes by 6bn cubic meters from 2005 levels, as well as bringing the installed capacity of wind and solar to more than 1,200 gigawatts (GW).

Link: https://www.carbonbrief.org/qa-what-doe ... te-change/


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Re: climate change

Post by FrazeeDK » October 22, 2022, 3:10 pm

gee no bias there right? Starts off at a predicted 1 foot rise... Any bond holders for Miami long term bonds dumping them?
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Re: climate change

Post by Whistler » October 24, 2022, 9:44 am

https://futurism.com/the-byte/cargo-ves ... 3ET7aYyjAk

Got this from a client in Australia, pertinent as the latest software project I am working on, is a logistics system called CLIPPER.
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Re: climate change

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Re: climate change

Post by FrazeeDK » October 24, 2022, 9:28 pm

modern wind propulsion techniques are already in use albeit not much. https://www.onesteppower.com/post/ship-wind-propulsion
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Re: climate change

Post by pipoz4444 » October 24, 2022, 11:19 pm

Just some facts on Ocean Shipping

It's going to take an enormous effort to change the course /direction of this Industry, given the present and predicted cargo shipping volumes that people of this world demand every year and it is growing by the year.

The sheer logistics and technology that it would take to develop/manufacture alternative replacement vessels, capable of moving a fraction of the 11 Billion Tons of ocean freight each year and to replace some of the 55,000 existing Merchant Ships/Vessels, will be, lets just say "Difficult to achieve"

And as for the the time to do it, lets just say it will be a "Very Long Time". :-k :-k given the existing Ocean Freight Shipping industry structure, comprises,

Ocean Freight Facts:

1.The global shipping container industry was $8.7 billion in 2019 and is expected to reach $12 billion by 2027

2.About 95% of the cargo in the world is shipped by Ocean - 11 Billion Tons of Ocean Freight per Annum

3.World seaborne trade is approx. 52% by Container, 22% by Tanker, 20% as General Cargo, and 6% by Dry Bulk

4.There are about 55,000 merchant ships that trade internationally, approximately 15,106 General Cargo ships
12,258 Bulk Cargo Carriers
7,350 Crude Oil Tankers
7,027 Ro-Ro Passenger ships
5,664 Chemical Tankers
5,307 Container Ships
2,031 Liquefied Natural Gas Tankers

5.7 million shipping containers are in use Worldwide

6.80% of the Shipping Containers in the world come from just three manufacturers in China: CIMC, CXIC, and DFIC

7.The biggest cargo ship in the world is the Ever Ace, which set a new TEU record. Four football fields long, it can hold upward of 23,000 containers. It was built in 2021 for Evergreen Marine Corporation, a Taiwanese shipping company and sails under the Panama flag

With a capacity of 23,992 TEUs, Ever ACE is 400-meter long, has 24 rows of side-by-side containers having a massive breadth of 61.53 meters. A modern marvel built by Samsung Heavy Industries in South Korea with a main engine - a 2-stroke Wartsila engine comprising of 11 cylinders delivering 70,950 Kilowatts of power and a cruising speed of 22.6 knots.
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8.The Port of Shanghai has the greatest cargo volume in the world. It handles approximately 43.5 million TEU containers

9.The Port of Los Angeles has the greatest cargo volume in the U.S. It handles approximately 9.2 million TEU containers.

10.There are 835 active ports around the world


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Re: climate change

Post by rick » October 26, 2022, 12:50 pm

As the average life of a cargo ship is about 25 years, if these modern fuel saving technologies were used for all new ships, the majority of the shipping fleet could go green by 2050 without the need to scrap existing ships until they were due to be replaced anyway.

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Re: climate change

Post by jackspratt » October 27, 2022, 12:54 pm

Significant progress being made in recycling of EV batteries - which comes as no surprise, given the amount of investment going into electric vehicles.
Gigafactories are recycling old EV batteries into new ones

It is a further step towards circular manufacturing
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Re: climate change

Post by tamada » October 27, 2022, 7:48 pm

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