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Re: Downunder republicanism

Post by jackspratt » July 15, 2020, 9:06 am

tamada wrote:
July 15, 2020, 6:08 am
........... and.fighting hard to get that racist blot of the Union Jack expunged from the flag.
Correct.

I believe this subject (the letters) would have received far more air time and column inches were it not for the fact that the daily news is dominated by CV-19.

And thanks tinpeeda - I enjoyed Mr Smith's take on the subject.



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Re: Downunder republicanism

Post by GT93 » March 26, 2022, 1:32 pm

I applaud the recent news from the Caribbean:
In Belize, a visit to a cocoa farm was scotched after residents protested. In Jamaica, the prime minister declared his country was “moving on” from the British monarchy. In the Bahamas, the couple arrived to demands from a group calling for slavery reparations that they acknowledge Britain’s economy “was built on the backs of our ancestors.”

For Prince William and his wife, Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge, it has been a turbulent tour of the Caribbean — one that has dramatized, through a pileup of gaffes and miscues, how rapidly Queen Elizabeth II is losing her grip on these distant dominions, even when she sends her most popular proxies.

Barbados cast off the queen as head of state last November, and Jamaica seems emboldened to follow suit, though it would require a referendum to amend the island’s constitution. William, second in line to the throne, got a taste of how the mood toward the monarchy has changed in the wake of the Black Lives Matter movement and a renewed call for reparations for Britain’s role in the slave trade.

“We intend to fulfill our true ambitions and destiny as an independent, developed, prosperous country,” Jamaica’s prime minister, Andrew Holness, said on Wednesday as a po-faced William looked on.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/25/worl ... w_arm_10_1
On many stops of their tour, the couple was greeted warmly, even jubilantly. But even those encounters were marred by off-key images. During a military parade, William, resplendent in a white dress uniform, rode with his wife, also in white, in the same open-top Land Rover that carried the queen and Prince Philip in 1962. To some locals, it was a caricature of a colonial proconsul inspecting his troops.
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Professor Drayton predicted Jamaica would be a republic in two years, possibly followed by Belize, though its situation was complicated by security concerns about its neighbor, Guatemala.

“The hesitations about doing this are now gone,” he said. “That particular ship has sailed.”
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Re: Downunder republicanism

Post by Shado » March 26, 2022, 2:39 pm

I can't remember the last time I saw a vehicle with whitewall tires, much less wide whitwall tires. Anyone know what year Land Rover that is? Pretty cool machine!

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Post by tamada » March 26, 2022, 3:58 pm

Shado wrote:
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I can't remember the last time I saw a vehicle with whitewall tires, much less wide whitwall tires. Anyone know what year Land Rover that is? Pretty cool machine!
Series II. Production from 1958 to 1961.
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Post by Shado » March 26, 2022, 4:13 pm

Lookin' good for sixty plus years of service!

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Re: Downunder republicanism

Post by rick » March 26, 2022, 6:25 pm

One issue which may also be aggravating anti-British sentiment is Covid. Very little in the way of vaccine donations were sent to the Caribbean, the UK government just didn't consider them important enough.

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Post by Doodoo » March 26, 2022, 7:17 pm

Belize received 25,000 donations via COVAX of which the UK had donated some 100Million doses.
So to say the UK didnt consider them important enough maybe a false statement

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Post by pepesgrill » March 26, 2022, 7:26 pm

are you saying it didnt happen this way? cant imagine why those natives are upset. shouldve
sent harry & meghan eh ? maybe a better choice

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Post by the-monk » March 26, 2022, 7:56 pm

Not quite. The UK has donated 10-20 millions doses of vaccine.
Please read.
https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/glob ... tribution/
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How many of the 100 million doses pledged has the UK delivered?
Statistics on how many of the 100 million doses pledged have been delivered varies across different sources. The UK Government states that at least 20 to 30.6 million doses will have been delivered by the end of 2021, whilst statistics from Our World in Data and UNICEF suggest that between 8 and 16 million UK-donated doses have been delivered to recipient countries to date with almost 20 million still in transit.

In a press release published on 30 October 2021, the Government announced that the UK had donated 20 million more Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccines to countries in need. The release announced that the UK had sent a further 10 million Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccines to Covax and added that “10 million more [were] due to be delivered in the coming weeks”. The Government said that together with 20 million doses of the Janssen vaccine and a further 20 million doses of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine pledged for 2022, this would mean 70% of the 100 million doses pledged either had been or would be delivered.

On 6 December 2021, George Freeman, Parliamentary Under Secretary of State at the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, responded to a written question on the UK’s contribution to Covax. He said that the UK had donated over 20 million doses of AstraZeneca bilaterally and through Covax to over 30 countries.

Statistics from Our World in Data on Covid-19 vaccination doses donated to Covax, using source data from Covax and the ACT Accelerator Hub, show that the UK had, as of 29 November 2021, pledged a total of 100 million doses to Covax. These consisted of:

8 million doses pledged but not yet donated to Covax;
2 million doses donated to Covax but not yet delivered to a recipient country; and
8 million doses delivered to a recipient country by Covax.
Statistics from UNICEF’s Covid-19 Vaccine Market Dashboard indicate that the UK has donated nearly 30 million doses both through Covax and to countries bilaterally, with just over 16 million doses having been delivered. This dashboard has been created by UNICEF, with data “produced and processed from sources believed to be reliable”.>>

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Re: Downunder republicanism

Post by GT93 » March 27, 2022, 6:02 am

pepesgrill wrote:
March 26, 2022, 7:26 pm
are you saying it didnt happen this way? cant imagine why those natives are upset. shouldve
sent harry & meghan eh ? maybe a better choice
My link which might have been blocked by a paywall raised this:
“If this tour had been led by Harry and Meghan, it would probably have gone down a lot better than William and Kate,” said Ed Owens, a historian who has written about the relationship between the media and the monarchy. “Harry and Meghan were, if you like, the monarchy’s silver bullet, making it more palatable.”
Yes, but those twits prefer hiding out in California selling their souls to the fabulously wealthy set.

Republicanism is at last picking up some momentum. This should spill over downunder.
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Re: Downunder republicanism

Post by pepesgrill » March 27, 2022, 6:46 am

seriously , the ginger & his black girl ? wouldda
been the clever play. use what you got g.o.t. :razz:

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Re: Downunder republicanism

Post by rick » March 27, 2022, 11:05 am

141 million doses administered in the UK, about 5 million thrown away, and 10 million donated - not exactly overly generous. In the Caribbean, those countries lucky enough to get any from the UK got enough for about one dose for 10% of their population.

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Re: Downunder republicanism

Post by tamada » June 5, 2022, 7:16 am

Look what I found!

Hopefully we can continue the discussion already started here and leave H.M.'s birthday and jubilee threads alone.

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Re: Downunder republicanism

Post by noosard » June 5, 2022, 7:44 am

wheres the fun in that

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Re: Downunder republicanism

Post by GT93 » June 5, 2022, 8:41 am

I read Queen Elizabeth II is really Queen Elizabeth I for Australia, New Zealand, Canada, the Solomon Islands etc. We've been using the wrong name.
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Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 5, 2022, 9:09 am

Not surprisingly, you read it wrong. Queen Elizabeth II is our Head of State. Queen Elizabeth I died on 24 March 1603
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Re: Downunder republicanism

Post by GT93 » June 5, 2022, 9:16 am

British numbering and sure her formal title. The 1603 old girl was never our Queen.
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Post by Laan Yaa Mo » June 5, 2022, 9:35 am

Of course not. But Queen Elizabeth II is.
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Post by GT93 » June 5, 2022, 9:36 am

Our first Queen called Elizabeth.
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