Bringing my ENGLISH staffordshire bull terrier

Post by **nel123** » June 8, 2013, 1:26 am

Hi all, great site....

Please please can someone give me a 100% concrete yes or no to my question?

Can I bring my English Staffordshire bull terrier into the country from the uk??
Thai websites say that American pitbulls and American staffords are banned from entering the country, it doesn't say anything about "English". Pitbulls are banned from the uk so I can understand that.
All day I have spoken or emailed airlines, pet exporters, DEFRA, an agent in Thailand but as of yet I have not had a definitive yes or no!!!!
I really don't want to leave her behind, we have two other dogs that are coming also but this decision to come and live in Thailand hinges on this decision. Dog lovers will understand, others will not.
So...... Does anybody out there have any recent experience with this breed?

I wait in anticipation

Cheers all

Post by **nel123** » June 9, 2013, 10:49 pm

Hi Gary, thanks for your PM.... I can't send a message back as I'm a new user.

Post by **ifatfilo** » January 4, 2014, 6:16 am

Hello my friend
I have the same problem,
I have a 10 years old staffordshire bul terrier and im going to move to Thailand in 6 monthes with her.
did you move your dog easily?
please help me and tell me what do in this situation.
thanx alot
Ifat

Post by **nel123** » January 4, 2014, 6:47 pm

Hi Ifat,

Were still in the UK at the moment awaiting the sale from our house. I will mail some more limited info later today when I've got 5 minutes.

Post by **ifatfilo** » January 4, 2014, 6:57 pm

Thank you very much

Post by **nel123** » January 5, 2014, 3:18 am

Hi Ifat,

Let me start by saying that were still not 100% sure whether we can bring our dog to Thailand. I researched and made various phone calls and emails, after 2 weeks I decided to stop as it was giving me a serious headache!! I will tell you what I know and what I've been told.....

Firstly Thai customs state that your not allowed to bring in an "American" Staffordshire bull terrier, ours are obviously not American, this was my first question to them. All they said to me was I must send them photos of our dog. We didn't go forward with this as we weren't in a position to move yet. But when your ready you must send them photos and all inoculations so they can/cannot issue you with a permit. Secondly the pain was the airlines! Eva air said NO! British airways said NO! Thai air you can send as cargo but not as excess baggage. KLM seemed to be the most helpful and are pet friendly, you can send them as cargo. The reason the airlines won't take them is because they're on the banned dogs list! Even half the pet exporters I phoned said no, others said yes! You can see why my head was hurting! We managed to find a pet importer in bangkok, after countless emails to him and we sent photos of our dog, he went to customs and they apparently said no problem. To send our dog cargo won't be cheap though, the money side of it isn't a problem though. But you could be looking at approximately £1200-£1500 all inclusive. We have two other dogs which will be coming as excess baggage, this will cost approx £600-£700 per dog but because we will probably end up having to go through the proper channels with our staff, this is the price to pay. Just make sure your dogs inoculations etc are up to date, you can get more information from DEFRA and your vet should be able to assist also. Sorry I can't be more help at this time but I've tried to forget about this for the time being, it's stressful enough trying to sell your house and deal with estate agents etc! All I really wanted to know for those two weeks of endless research etc was, is my dog allowed into Thailand? To this day I'm still none the wiser!! Good luck mate! If you get any info before I do, please get in touch and I will do the same. Kind regards Scott

Post by **nel123** » January 5, 2014, 3:23 am

Noi,

Many thanks for yr ref rate request.

First of all, we can re-confirm that there is NO Quarantine required on your
dog (on any cats/dogs) at all. NOT 1 day OR 1 week or 1 month.

Our dest rate fm ex Bangkok Airport upto delivery to owner residence in Bangkok
is: US$500 PLUS:
-Thai Customs Import Duties/Taxes "as per receipt" (Approx. US$200 per dog)

We need to obtain this Thai Import Permit. At least 10 days prior to pet arrival at
Bangkok Airport, we need following documents:
--owner copy passport: the page with owner name/signature/photo/number/issued date/
/expiry date AND the Thai Immigration Stamp on owner "last" entry to Thailand
(THIS IS NECESSARY. WITHOUT THIS, CANNOT CLEAR CUSTOMS)
--if owner is a Thai Citizen (holding a Thai Passport), we also need copy of owner Thai
Identification Card, and, Thai Residence Book (Ta Bian Baan)
--color photo of the dog
--Rabies Vaccination of the dog
--Full details of the dogs: name, breed, color, sex, age, and, approximate weight
--Owner address in U.K.
--Owner address/phone number in Thailand

At least 1 "working" days prior to pet arrival at Bangkok Airport, we need to receive:
--Air Waybill: completed with all details
--Health Certificate issued by the U.K. Government Body. NOT by a private vet.

ORIGINAL RABIES CERTIFICATE AND ORIGINAL HEALTH CERTIFICATE ISSUED
BY THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT BODY MUST BE ATTACHED TO THE CAGE SO
WE CAN PICKUP THESE DOCUMENTS AS SOON AS THE PET ARRIVES AT BANGKOK
AIRPORT.

PET HAS TO ARRIVE AT BANGKOK "DURING WEEK DAY ONLY"
NOT: ON SATURDAYS/SUNDAYS/THAI PUBLIC HOLIDAYS

IF POSSIBLE, PLEASE TRY TO SEND THE PET TO ARRIVE AT BANGKOK AIRPORT
DURING THE BUSINESS HOURS: 09:00 - 13:00 ONLY.

TERM OF PAYMENT: ADVANCE PAYMENT PRIOR TO DELIVERY OF THE DOG TO YOU.
VALIDITY: 30 DAYS

Sincerely hope you find our quoted price competitive.
If you need more info on this quote, pls do not hesitate to contact us.

Best regards,

Krit Wongsaengarunsri

Post by **nel123** » January 5, 2014, 3:24 am

Above is an email from the importer from bangkok

Post by **nel123** » January 5, 2014, 3:25 am

Dear Khun Noi,

Overlooked to mention that Thai Government Vet at Bangkok Airport confirmed that
your dog is NOT banned from importation into Thailand.

But to re-confirm this point, please email us a color photo of your dog so we can
re-confirm this with the Thai Government Vet once again.

Best regards,

Krit Wong

Post by **nel123** » January 5, 2014, 3:25 am

Above is another email from him

Post by **nel123** » January 5, 2014, 3:28 am

Www.hktranspack.com ok they're not pet importers but I heard through other websites that they were very good with other people's dogs

Post by **ifatfilo** » January 5, 2014, 2:27 pm

Hi Scott
you helped me alot and i will do the same.
if its ok, please send me your email so we can be in better contact.
mine is: [email protected]
good luck for us!!
Ifat Zilberfeld Filosof (facebook name)

Post by **nel123** » February 20, 2014, 4:28 pm

**update** now according to the vets at swampy! the dog is a banned breed! I only have about three hairs left on my head!! Aaaarrrrggghhhhh!!

Post by **fatbob** » February 20, 2014, 4:50 pm

I for one am glad the breed is banned in Thailand, Thais are not responsible enough to care for that type of dog, it would be great coming across ten stray staffies in a quiet soi, no thanks!

Post by **nel123** » February 20, 2014, 5:34 pm

Dog racist !

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Post by **howard** » February 20, 2014, 6:02 pm

coxo wrote:I for one am glad the breed is banned in Thailand, Thais are not responsible enough to care for that type of dog, it would be great coming across ten stray staffies in a quiet soi, no thanks!

Coxo, I have to agree with you Staffies are natural fighting dogs. In the UK they are often kept by ' Macho' owners having donned them with a black studded leather collar. According to Google some EU countries have banned them. It also mentions Thailand being one of the additional countries although it is unclear if the legislation is now law.
As far as Nel's insults are concerned I would assume he has broken the rules of UM and a moderator will block this thread

Post by **nel123** » February 20, 2014, 6:16 pm

Howard.. You know nothing about Staffordshire bull terriers! Obviously!!

Post by **nel123** » February 20, 2014, 6:19 pm

While I agree that some owners are idiots! Please don't come down on the breed!

Post by **fatbob** » February 20, 2014, 6:21 pm

Well there you go, can I call you a brain dead ! Obviously mentally unfit to own a killing machine.
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Post by **nel123** » February 20, 2014, 6:37 pm

How about we meet up for a drink? I can show you!