The reason these investigations and enquiries are approaching five years without getting any closer to answers or meaningful prosecutions is because the corruption that was the root cause of the 72 deaths is still working "in plain sight." Keep kicking that can down the road. Chances are Grenfell will be demolished before the enquiry is ever completed. There you go, closure.AlexO wrote: ↑April 28, 2022, 7:07 amTamtamada wrote: ↑April 28, 2022, 5:25 amBy your own admission, you despise what you claim as my "favourite rag" so much, you refuse to read it. Thus you are excused for being ignorant of the many salient facts that their investigative reporting about Grenfell and it's unresolved aftermath has brought to the public's attention. No matter how much the Kensington and Chelsea London Borough Council and the Tories would wish it would all just go away, it isn't.AlexO wrote: ↑April 27, 2022, 8:23 pmWas it corruption? Tam or just lack of due diligence in checking materials installed versus materials specified. If it was caused by corruption would your favourite rag not be all over it like a rash and criminal would charges being throw about like confetti. Lord Mayor Khan is a great champion of anything to do with immigrants and ethnic minorities (that group made up the majority of the poor souls that perished) do you think he is involved in a cover up of corrupt practices?tamada wrote: ↑April 27, 2022, 8:09 pmThe victims, survivors and their families drawn together under the corruption that caused the Grenfell Tower inferno probably have an opinion on how it remains hidden in plain sight almost five years on.AlexO wrote: ↑April 27, 2022, 7:16 pmTalking from somewhere between your belly button and your knee's again Statts. If there is so much corruption so well covered up how just how do you know about it? But there are no whistle blowers, no investigative journalists exposing, with facts, the massive amount of corruption that surrounded you, that only you knew about. Not saying there isn't corruption but hardly on the scale that you infer there is. I worked for a company that virtually banned me from playing golf with my brother because he was employed by a company who could potentially be a supplier/subcontractor so its not quite as rife as you claim.stattointhailand wrote: ↑April 25, 2022, 6:28 pmThat was one of the big questions I considered before moving here. I though about all the corruption I'd seen in Thailand and I thought about all the corruption I didn't see in UK, then I realised I'm far happier to know and see the corruption here and deal with it in my own way than knowing it's happening all round me and not be able to do anything in UK due to it being so well covered up
That's a horrifically meaningful scale whichever way you look at it, no?
The Grenfell wiki is a good point of reference if you chose to cling to it ALL being "just a lack of due diligence."
With regard to your dismissive "like confetti" comment and goading about the current Mayor from the minorities, maybe you are also unaware that criminal charges cannot be entertained while all three enquiries (police, public and inquest) are still ongoing and/or open. That's law and order 101. I guess it sucks to be white and right all the time, eh?
Here endeth the first lesson.
If it so "hiding in plain sight" why oh why is it only the Guardian and you that can see it. Why are enquiries still ongoing after 5 years. Again you misquote me see highlight in red. Honestly people might just think you are referring to yourself in your final sentence, I could not have put it better myself.
Acting quickly to snuff out a potential bushfire, the May government quickly stepped in and "took over" certain departments at K&C who were directly responsible for certain budgetary decisions. These decisions ignored safety warnings and were made at the ultimate cost of the lives of the minorities and socially disadvantaged who paid them rent to live in a fire trap. Meanwhile, companies awarded the work then sub-contracted the work to other companies that conveniently no longer exist. Oh, that's too bad, sorry.
You really need to get over this Guardian fixation and take a gander at the other 'not right-wing' news and opinion.