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Post by DuiDui49 » May 9, 2021, 1:07 pm

Goverment will give reduced Water and Electric bills for Maj and June..They will look at your April bill to estimate what and how much you will have in reduction on M/J bills.

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Post by parrot » May 9, 2021, 1:26 pm

Details of the government program:
https://www.bangkokbiznews.com/news/detail/936100 (put your browser on auto-translate for English).

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Post by semperfiguy » May 9, 2021, 1:33 pm

DuiDui49 wrote:
May 9, 2021, 1:07 pm
Goverment will give reduced Water and Electric bills for Maj and June..They will look at your April bill to estimate what and how much you will have in reduction on M/J bills.

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Post by pipoz4444 » May 9, 2021, 4:05 pm

semperfiguy wrote:
May 9, 2021, 1:33 pm
DuiDui49 wrote:
May 9, 2021, 1:07 pm
Goverment will give reduced Water and Electric bills for Maj and June..They will look at your April bill to estimate what and how much you will have in reduction on M/J bills.

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https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/121639 ... paign=news
Hi semperfiguy

My April 2021 Electricity Bill, which I automatically pay through the Bank each month (on 7th of the Month) was abnormally high, so much so that I thought they guessed it and do not go read any of the two meters.

My March 2021 Bill, was marginally up from that of March 2020

But my April Bill of 2021 was nearly double that of April 2020

I thought they had jacked the Unit Rates up??

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Post by stattointhailand » May 9, 2021, 4:17 pm

I put the sharp increase in my bill down to my daughter leaving the aircon on in her room all night ....... perhaps there are other , more sinister reasons?

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Re: Reduced Water and Electric bills for Maj and June

Post by semperfiguy » May 9, 2021, 4:27 pm

pipoz4444 wrote:
May 9, 2021, 4:05 pm
semperfiguy wrote:
May 9, 2021, 1:33 pm
DuiDui49 wrote:
May 9, 2021, 1:07 pm
Goverment will give reduced Water and Electric bills for Maj and June..They will look at your April bill to estimate what and how much you will have in reduction on M/J bills.

Source Thaivisa 05 09 2021

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/121639 ... paign=news
Hi semperfiguy

My April 2021 Electricity Bill, which I automatically pay through the Bank each month (on 7th of the Month) was abnormally high, so much so that I thought they guessed it and do not go read any of the two meters.

My March 2021 Bill, was marginally up from that of March 2020

But my April Bill of 2021 was nearly double that of April 2020

I thought they had jacked the Unit Rates up??

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Pipoz, in April 2020 we were given a Covid discount and the bill should have been equal to your Feb 2020 bill. There was no discount given in April 2021 which should explain the disparity.

In March 2020 the Covid discounted bill should have been equal to your Feb 2020 bill, but we were also given a discount in March 2021, so can't explain the difference there except to say that this year's discount wasn't as big as last year's.

Hope you are doing well!
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Re: Reduced Water and Electric bills for Maj and June

Post by pipoz4444 » May 9, 2021, 5:19 pm

semperfiguy wrote:
May 9, 2021, 4:27 pm
pipoz4444 wrote:
May 9, 2021, 4:05 pm
semperfiguy wrote:
May 9, 2021, 1:33 pm
DuiDui49 wrote:
May 9, 2021, 1:07 pm
Goverment will give reduced Water and Electric bills for Maj and June..They will look at your April bill to estimate what and how much you will have in reduction on M/J bills.

Source Thaivisa 05 09 2021

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/121639 ... paign=news
Hi semperfiguy

My April 2021 Electricity Bill, which I automatically pay through the Bank each month (on 7th of the Month) was abnormally high, so much so that I thought they guessed it and do not go read any of the two meters.

My March 2021 Bill, was marginally up from that of March 2020

But my April Bill of 2021 was nearly double that of April 2020

I thought they had jacked the Unit Rates up??

pipoz4444
Pipoz, in April 2020 we were given a Covid discount and the bill should have been equal to your Feb 2020 bill. There was no discount given in April 2021 which should explain the disparity.

In March 2020 the Covid discounted bill should have been equal to your Feb 2020 bill, but we were also given a discount in March 2021, so can't explain the difference there except to say that this year's discount wasn't as big as last year's.

Hope you are doing well!
Hi and wish it was, but for the month/year of
Jan 2020 was B 4,445
Feb 2020 was B 3,658
Mar 2020 was B 4,897
Apr 2020 was B 4,814
Which was expected and sort of consistent with 2019

Then come 2021
Jan 2021 was B 4,727 OK pretty close to Jan 2020
Feb 2021 was B 4,439 OK pretty close to Feb 2020 and Jan 2021
Mar 2021 was B 6,403 Opps a slight sudden rise to what I normally pay in the early summer months of May and June. I thought they may have increased their Rates, no big deal

Then 2 days ago,
Apr 2021 was B 11,404 :confused: :confused: I have paid 10K plus in July and August before, but never in April. Did you guys have heat wave in Udon Thani last month \:D/ :-k :-k .

I did have the Company installing a Security System back in March 2021 and they may have chewed up some extra power, but that would have been paid for in the 7th April Bill

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Re: Reduced Water and Electric bills for Maj and June

Post by DuiDui49 » May 9, 2021, 8:38 pm

March,NOT including tax...1036Bath=344 Units=3.011Bath/Unit

April,NOT including tax...1733Bath=443 Units = 3.911Bath/Unit

So the diffrence is 387 Units between March and April..so i paid 387x3.911=1513..IF i pay 3.911/Unit..if i pay the lower price (March)387x1165Bath...diffrence is 348Bath... :-k

PEA:s Tariffs:

Monthly Rate
1.1 Normal Rate Energy Charge Service Charge
(Baht/kWh) (Baht/Month)
1.1.1 Consume up to 150 kWh. per Month 8.19
First 15 kWh. ( 0 – 15 th) 2.3488
Next 10 kWh. ( 16 th – 25 th) 2.9882
Next 10 kWh. ( 26 th – 35 th) 3.2405
Next 65 kWh. ( 36 th – 100 th) 3.6237
Next 50 kWh. ( 101 st – 150 th) 3.7171
Next 250 kWh. ( 151 st – 400 th) 4.2218
Over 400 kWh. ( 401 st and over) 4.4217
1.1.2 Consume over 150 kWh. per Month 38.22
First 150 kWh. ( 0 – 150 th) 3.2484
Next 250 kWh. ( 151 st – 400 th) 4.2218
Over 400 kWh. ( 401 st and over) 4.4217
1.2 Time of Use Rate (TOU) Energy Charge Service Charge
(Baht/kWh) (Baht/Month)
Most of us i guess have this tariff living in our own houses.
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1.2.1 At voltage level 22 - 33 kV. 5.1135 2.6037 312.24
1.2.2 At voltage level lower than 22 kV. 5.7982 2.6369 38.22
Note: 1. Customer, who has installed meter up to 5 Amp., 220 V., 1 Phase, 2 Wires, is classified under 1.1.1. If the customer
consumes over 150 kWh for 3 consecutive months, he/she will be reclassified under 1.1.2 in the following month. When the
customer does not consume over 150 kWh for 3 consecutive months, he/she will be reclassified under 1.1.1 in the following
month.
2. Customer, who has installed meter over 5 Amp., 220 V., 1 Phase, 2 Wires, is classified under 1.1.2.
3. Customer, who has classified under 1.1.1 and does not consume over 50 kWh, will be received free electricity for that
month until December 2015. From January 2016 onwards, the customer who classified under 1.1.1, and not be a juristic person,
and does not consume over 50 kWh for 3 consecutive months (including the current month), will be received free electricity for
that month.
4. As for tariff No. 1.2, if the customer installs a meter on a low voltage side of his/her transformer, another 2% of kWh
will be added to the energy consumption to compensate for the losses in the transformer.
5. Tariff No. 1.2 is an optional rate, in order that the customer is obligated to pay for any additional cost specified by PEA.
After the minimum use of 12 months, the customer can require to be in tariff No. 1.1.

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Re: Reduced Water and Electric bills for Maj and June

Post by pipoz4444 » May 9, 2021, 8:47 pm

At this time of year I think my Monthly Consumption of Units is around 1400-1500 Units, but they have stopped issuing the Paper Receipts in the Letter Boxes and I cant access the PEA App on my phone anymore, so have n way of seeing how many Unites, I am chewing up on each Meter each Month or how thy calculate it from the No of Units. Bummer

Have to check to see if the neighbor has latched on to my meter :-k :-k

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Re: Reduced Water and Electric bills for Maj and June

Post by pipoz4444 » May 9, 2021, 8:51 pm

DuiDui49 wrote:
May 9, 2021, 8:38 pm
March,NOT including tax...1036Bath=344 Units=3.011Bath/Unit

April,NOT including tax...1733Bath=443 Units = 3.911Bath/Unit

So the diffrence is 387 Units between March and April..so i paid 387x3.911=1513..IF i pay 3.911/Unit..if i pay the lower price (March)387x1165Bath...diffrence is 348Bath... :-k

PEA:s Tariffs:

After the minimum use of 12 months, the customer can require to be in tariff No. 1.1.
Hi DuiDui, so your March to April Total jumped up around 67% as well

Was April a hot month?

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Re: Reduced Water and Electric bills for Maj and June

Post by Giggle » May 9, 2021, 9:08 pm

PEA may be adopting the Tesco Lotus Thailand pricing policy of doubling the price of an item only to offer it on sale -- half off.
They will look at your April bill to estimate what and how much you will have in reduction on M/J bills.
I wouldn't be surprised if there is a clause for some to pay an extra surcharge based on such extraordinary savings.
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Post by DuiDui49 » May 10, 2021, 7:57 am

pipoz4444 wrote:
May 9, 2021, 8:51 pm
DuiDui49 wrote:
May 9, 2021, 8:38 pm
March,NOT including tax...1036Bath=344 Units=3.011Bath/Unit

April,NOT including tax...1733Bath=443 Units = 3.911Bath/Unit

So the diffrence is 387 Units between March and April..so i paid 387x3.911=1513..IF i pay 3.911/Unit..if i pay the lower price (March)387x1165Bath...diffrence is 348Bath... :-k

PEA:s Tariffs:

After the minimum use of 12 months, the customer can require to be in tariff No. 1.1.
Hi DuiDui, so your March to April Total jumped up around 67% as well



God morning pipoz4444 !Was April a hot month?-YES it was hot but not THAT hot..i think. I check my meter now and then,alone at the moment in the house..so i "know"what to expect and i'm usually right when it comes to guessing how much power/units i use month by month.And -YES,i was supprised by the increase..i was expecting around 13->1400Bath..When i get this month bill i will take them to PEA office and have them to check for sure.

Take care and have a good day pipoz4444.


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Re: Reduced Water and Electric bills for Maj and June

Post by tamada » May 10, 2021, 8:07 am

Units burned at Casa tam for Q1/2021 as follows:

Jan 914
Feb 845
Mar 1053
Apr 1176

March got hot quick towards the end but April wasn't excessively hotter than previous years. I will see if I can find last April's bill for units burned. Always good to compare.

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Post by DuiDui49 » May 10, 2021, 8:30 am

tamada wrote:
May 10, 2021, 8:07 am
Units burned at Casa tam for Q1/2021 as follows:

Jan 914
Feb 845
Mar 1053
Apr 1176

March got hot quick towards the end but April wasn't excessively hotter than previous years. I will see if I can find last April's bill for units burned. Always good to compare.
Morning Khun Steve !

Can you break your Units divided into Bath /Unit,like i did,NOT including Tax/Vat..easyer to follow then..well atleast for me ;-)Thank you and have a nice Monday.

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Post by semperfiguy » May 10, 2021, 9:20 am

pipoz4444 wrote:
May 9, 2021, 8:47 pm
At this time of year I think my Monthly Consumption of Units is around 1400-1500 Units, but they have stopped issuing the Paper Receipts in the Letter Boxes and I cant access the PEA App on my phone anymore, so have n way of seeing how many Unites, I am chewing up on each Meter each Month or how thy calculate it from the No of Units. Bummer

Have to check to see if the neighbor has latched on to my meter :-k :-k

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Pipoz, just curious to know how you know your monthly bill total if you don't have a paper receipt or can't get onto the PEA app. Are you relying on a report from someone in your home and then sending money for them to pay the bill? None of my business of course, but there could be a rat in the woodpile.
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Post by Khun Paul » May 10, 2021, 10:15 am

I thought the same as you semper , no bill no pay, although the PEA have changed into a reasonably efficient Power supplier they still needs bills delivered to get their cash , the story no0 more paper slips is total B/S

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Post by saint » May 10, 2021, 11:05 am

semperfiguy wrote:
May 10, 2021, 9:20 am
pipoz4444 wrote:
May 9, 2021, 8:47 pm
At this time of year I think my Monthly Consumption of Units is around 1400-1500 Units, but they have stopped issuing the Paper Receipts in the Letter Boxes and I cant access the PEA App on my phone anymore, so have n way of seeing how many Unites, I am chewing up on each Meter each Month or how thy calculate it from the No of Units. Bummer

Have to check to see if the neighbor has latched on to my meter :-k :-k

pipoz4444
Pipoz, just curious to know how you know your monthly bill total if you don't have a paper receipt or can't get onto the PEA app. Are you relying on a report from someone in your home and then sending money for them to pay the bill? None of my business of course, but there could be a rat in the woodpile.
Rat in the wood pile !!!! See when i grew up , it wasnt called rats , but something completely different in the wood pile .
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Post by tamada » May 10, 2021, 11:33 am

tamada wrote:
May 10, 2021, 8:07 am
Units burned at Casa tam for Q1/2021 as follows:

Jan 914
Feb 845
Mar 1053
Apr 1176

March got hot quick towards the end but April wasn't excessively hotter than previous years. I will see if I can find last April's bill for units burned. Always good to compare.
Compared with my Q1/2020 which was:

Jan 977 (decrease)
Feb 802 (increase)
Mar 1083 (decrease)
Apr 1260 (decrease)

I'm liking this trend! If May/June is going to be a PEA guesstimate from my lower April bill, I will be happy since last May was my biggest at 1271 units.

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Re: Reduced Water and Electric bills for Maj and June

Post by tamada » May 10, 2021, 11:50 am

Khun Paul wrote:
May 10, 2021, 10:15 am
I thought the same as you semper , no bill no pay, although the PEA have changed into a reasonably efficient Power supplier they still needs bills delivered to get their cash , the story no0 more paper slips is total B/S
With regard to "PEA have changed into a reasonably efficient Power supplier". I was a bit disappointed to have my UPS's going batshit at 3 p.m. yesterday when the power was down around 180.

About 3 weeks back, late afternoon, I passed some PEA trucks working on power line on the Nong Sai road about 200 yards from our house. The area was without power for about 2 hours but when it was restored before 6 p.m., we had about 207 volts which, for the first time in maybe 13 years, stayed rock solid above 200 volts throughout the evening. Even turning the shower water heater on didn't cause the UPS's to beep, the LED lights in the kitchen to flicker or the audible drop in rpm of the extractor fan. I was thinking that the PEA must have either replaced something, attached us to a different phase or done some much-needed load balancing. However, after about 4 days, the low evening voltage problems returned so I guess whatever load balancing they applied late afternoon STILL doesn't address the early evening surges at this time of year when aircons and lights get turned on.

They tell us that they can monitor the system automatically from their grand white palace on the southern ring road but having been in a live, online chat with a PEA person at the very same time as my UPS was showing an input of 158 volts and the PEA person saying that they can't see that low voltage on their system, I guess their automatic sensing only goes so far and not down to each step-down transformer at the end of a distribution line? But one would think that the same transformer blowing up and needing replacing maybe twice a year would tell them something, no?

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Re: Reduced Water and Electric bills for Maj and June

Post by Niggly » May 10, 2021, 2:18 pm

Being a tightfisted northerner it goes without saying I'm always grateful of a discount no matter where it comes from so that's the reply to the thread title.
However, now following on from some of the other posts I'm rather surprised at the number of electrical units used each month being stated. I can't be bothered working out the unit cost, what with the discounts, threshholds & VAT being applied differently each month so the number of units consumed is my baseline comparison.
We don't conserve energy by any stretch of the imagination but our units usage seems to be a lot lower in many cases for some reason.

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