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Post by ronan01 » December 2, 2014, 4:42 am

rick wrote:Well, depends where you live. With Australia getting more and more prolonged bouts of 40+ centigrade, guess you better start digging holes to get out of the heat .... 2014 still on track to possibly be the worlds hottest year on record - and we are still in a sunspot minimum period ....

Of course, with the right commitment and money, it is possible to replace fossil fuels. Fossil fuel use for generating electricity is declining in the UK, year on year. We are doing our bit to save you .... mind you, another 2 degrees in the Uk would be nice ...
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Post by ronan01 » December 4, 2014, 7:00 am

GT93 wrote:Hottest spring on record in Aussie:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-12-01/a ... rd/5931282

Anecdotally, just from my experience, it was a lousy spring in New Zealand. It seemed very windy.

Keep up the Aussie posts on the Aussie weather ronan01. The link looks at more than just this spring.
Are we dead yet? Or do we have until midnight 4 December (which time zone?).

BTW GT93 - its best not to put the condoms on your head, big head that is, though I suspect you find it hard to differentiate between your big head and little head, probably because your little head does the thinking, well, what ever little bit of thinking that happens sometimes.

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Post by GT93 » December 4, 2014, 12:00 pm

Now that's 2 grams of sanuk. You're having a good day ronan01.

I am looking forward to your posts keeping us up to date with the world wide temperatures this year. As usual you will behead the science. :(
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Post by ronan01 » December 17, 2014, 9:30 am

Communists along with a few environmental groups staged a “People’s Climate Rally” in Oakland, California on Sunday, September 21, in conjunction with the larger “People’s Climate March” in New York City on the same day.

Wait — did I say communists? Isn’t that a bit of an exaggeration?

Well…no.

http://pjmedia.com/zombie/2014/09/23/cl ... epage=true

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Post by FrazeeDK » December 17, 2014, 6:49 pm

the majority of the anti-Iraq and Afghanistan war mob were also Communists and Socialists.. ANSWER, Code Pink all backed by various Marxist groups... Note the older bearded "child of the 60's" ... or more likely a "child of the 70's" that missed the Vietnam anti-war movement and feels impelled to pursue any protest movement in an attempt to fulfill some unknown need..
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Post by KHONDAHM » December 22, 2014, 3:33 am

The Keystone pipeline was mentioned earlier in this thread. Obama (finally) gives an excellent factual explanation of the the project and debunks the Right-wingnuts false messaging to the American sheeple.



What strikes me most is that our (Fail!) American media could have and should have explained the project as eloquently and snuffed out the Republican propaganda surrounding the project before it could take root. With Keystone being #1 on the new Republican-controlled Congress' agenda, all the American media need do is put this video on a loop.

So what is the real reason Republicans want Keystone? Because it would feed Canadian oil directly to Koch Industries refineries in the Gulf states. Being the wealthiest on the planet (combined) has its privileges and the Koch Brothers bought themselves the Republican puppets in the US Congress. :censored:
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Post by akwoodworker » December 22, 2014, 8:11 am

Bear in mind that almost all media in America is controlled by five corporations.

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Post by ronan01 » December 26, 2014, 4:20 pm

Ice in the Arctic and Antarctic is 'not melting', says global warming expert

http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/54 ... nny-Peiser

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Post by rick » December 27, 2014, 12:23 am

In the same article it also says:
However other experts have questioned the accuracy of the latest reports and say it is too early to declare there is no problem with the poles.

Professor Peter Wadhams, a Professor of Ocean Physics at Cambridge University, suggested the research from the Antarctic is based on thick ice which had previously not been sampled by scientists.

He confessed that while the Antarctic sea ice area is increasing, experts do not know how thick the ice really is because they lack the means to measure it.

The reason for this is that "satellites don't work for Antarctic ice thickness because the ice is too wet, while submarines are forbidden to go there", he explained.

He also added that these recent figures on the Arctic "mean little" on their own, and that the trends should be looked at from a wider range.

He explained: "I would say the consensus view of climate scientists is that the trend of area and thickness in Arctic sea ice is very strongly downwards, despite this year's partial recovery.

"It is best to look at five-year running means since annual fluctuations mean little."
Even that statement contains a misquote: the 2014 figure is actually down 700 cubic kilometres, it was 2013 that saw the big rise. it may only need a couple of years before new record lows are set - but might take longer. It 's variable.

Meanwhile, we wait to see if 2014 sets a new record for warmest year - it was the warmest year up to end of October.

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Post by ronan01 » December 27, 2014, 5:29 am

rick wrote:In the same article it also says:
However other experts have questioned the accuracy of the latest reports and say it is too early to declare there is no problem with the poles.

Professor Peter Wadhams, a Professor of Ocean Physics at Cambridge University, suggested the research from the Antarctic is based on thick ice which had previously not been sampled by scientists.

He confessed that while the Antarctic sea ice area is increasing, experts do not know how thick the ice really is because they lack the means to measure it.

The reason for this is that "satellites don't work for Antarctic ice thickness because the ice is too wet, while submarines are forbidden to go there", he explained.

He also added that these recent figures on the Arctic "mean little" on their own, and that the trends should be looked at from a wider range.

He explained: "I would say the consensus view of climate scientists is that the trend of area and thickness in Arctic sea ice is very strongly downwards, despite this year's partial recovery.

"It is best to look at five-year running means since annual fluctuations mean little."
Even that statement contains a misquote: the 2014 figure is actually down 700 cubic kilometres, it was 2013 that saw the big rise. it may only need a couple of years before new record lows are set - but might take longer. It 's variable.

Meanwhile, we wait to see if 2014 sets a new record for warmest year - it was the warmest year up to end of October.
The same article says:

Ted Maksym, an oceanographer at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution in Massachusetts, conducted a study in which he sent an underwater robot into the depths of the Antarctic sea to measure the ice.

His results contradicted previous assumptions made by scientists and showed that the ice is actually much thicker than has been predicted over the last 20 years.

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Post by akwoodworker » December 27, 2014, 6:48 am

And in Alaska no -20f weather yet!

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Post by marjamlew » December 27, 2014, 7:41 am

ronan01 wrote:Ice in the Arctic and Antarctic is 'not melting', says global warming expert

http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/54 ... nny-Peiser
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Post by akwoodworker » December 27, 2014, 9:55 am

I am certain that the 'expert' cited in this has not done much real research, I can say first hand that most of the glaciers in Alaska have receded dramatically. Most 'experts' that deny climate change are mouthpieces for those that don't want to believe. The percentage of legitimate scientists that acknowledge global warming is close to 99%.

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Post by rick » December 27, 2014, 12:39 pm

it may be true that sea-ice in Antarctica is thicker than expected (at least in some places) but that does not mean it has got thicker - just not measured before. On most of the 'ice shelves' where research has been done for some time (because the ice is more stable) are not as thick. The actual Antarctic icecap has been measured via satellite and radar and overall now appears to be declining - although not by much. I believe sea-ice for end of October was actually considerably reduced from last year.

Arctic sea-ice long term trend is decline - for the month of November the trend is 4.7% per decade. Winter ice trends do not vary as much as summer - if there is more sea that is ice free, more ice forms.

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Post by ronan01 » January 2, 2015, 10:27 am

akwoodworker wrote:The percentage of legitimate scientists that acknowledge global warming is close to 99%.
Prove it!

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Post by ronan01 » January 2, 2015, 10:28 am

Leonardo DiCaprio’s Home On Wheels

Leonardo, the ultra-rich ecotard who wants plebs to reduce their carbon footprint to save the planet.

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Post by ronan01 » January 5, 2015, 11:17 am

"In 2008, Canada’s weekly news magazine, Maclean’s, ran an article titled Soaring energy costs are about to change everything. “Should oil hit US$200 [a barrel] in the next few years, the world will be scarcely recognizable,” it warned.

Oil is currently trading at US$52 a barrel. The two journalists who wrote that 2008 news story didn’t have a clue. Nor did the magazine’s editors. Nor did all the experts who were interviewed and quoted.

Rank speculation masquerading as news. That is what predictions about the future amount to. And that, dear friends, is what the entire climate crisis boils down to. Experts imagining they know what will happen next. Journalists pretending that experts know what they’re talking about."

http://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2015/01/ ... edictions/

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Post by redwolf » January 5, 2015, 12:13 pm

Are you a supplier of backlinks (via Udonmap's PR4 status) for various "climate debate" website owners?

*Many* of the sites you have supplied as so-called proofs certainly look like they must be great backlink clients eh?

Making sure to pepper in some major sites every now and then just for cover?

Hmmm.
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Post by GT93 » January 5, 2015, 3:14 pm

Yes, there's long been a suspicion that ronan01 is so one eyed on this that he has some coin in the game.
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Post by rjj04 » January 5, 2015, 3:57 pm

You boys are in for some serious name-calling :-$

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