E10 or 91 red fuel...Honda 250R

by **Mudguard** » July 19, 2012, 8:35 pm

Would anyone know if either of the above 91 types of fuel are both OK or, one is better to use then the other?
Cheers Mudguard...

by **GARYZX6R** » July 20, 2012, 6:50 am

Either are fine for the CBR. I use Shell 91 E10 normally ,and if the bike is not being used for a while I fill up with 91 benzine - red -. Reason is over a period of time E10 can break down and water is a by- product ,and as we know we dont want water in the fuel system.

by **ting_tong** » July 22, 2012, 6:28 am

91 red benzine has been long removed from the gas stations (well over a year)
if you ride or drive around, you will only see yellow bottles on the racks of the road side sellers

by **GARYZX6R** » July 22, 2012, 8:10 am

Guess you don't vist many petrol stations then Jonny ! 91 benzine is available at most petrol stations in Udon.

by **mykthemin** » July 22, 2012, 12:16 pm

In fact where I live the village station only has diesel and 91 benzine, as all the 2 stroke and 4 stroke farming implements would not last long on ethanol e10 crap, and as for my bikes always use 91 benzine even if the other crap is available as the mileage from the benzine is far better.

by **Mudguard** » July 22, 2012, 1:36 pm

Thank you all for your replies.........Mudguard

by **ting_tong** » July 22, 2012, 3:29 pm

GARYZX6R wrote:> I fill up with 91 benzine - red -. < Guess you don't vist many petrol stations then Jonny ! 91 benzine is available at most petrol stations in Udon.

they dont dye the gas red anymore, they stopped doing that for over a year...........no red 91, only yellow 91

I guess if you are filling up a CAR, you dont see the color of the fuel?

by **GARYZX6R** » July 22, 2012, 3:49 pm

Car ? As discussed 91 benzine is still available ,95 benzine was stopped ,perhaps you were confused ? Are you aware the difference between 91 and 95 Jonny ? :lol:

by **papaguido** » July 22, 2012, 4:15 pm

Red 91 still exist, that's all I use in my car & MB's. It's suppose to be phased out this year and replace with green 91 (gasohol), but it hasn't yet...obviously.

Posted by pattayatoday on Aug 30th, 2011 and filed under Thailand News

Bangchak in particular has been a strong promoter of alternative fuels and previously announced plans to scrap sales of pure petrol next year. The company already has withdrawn 95 petrol in favour of 95 gasohol, a blend of 5% ethanol with 95% petrol.

http://pattayatoday.net/news/thailand-n ... mp-prices/

by **ting_tong** » July 22, 2012, 4:25 pm

GARYZX6R wrote: I fill up with 91 benzine - red -..

they dont dye 91 benzine, it comes as 91 yellow
that happened over a year ago

by **GARYZX6R** » July 22, 2012, 7:04 pm

Boring ,you missed the point yet again. :lol:

by **ting_tong** » July 23, 2012, 1:04 am

when you figure out you're wrong, I am sure you wont admit it, eh sherlock?.............lol

by **bluejets** » July 23, 2012, 7:46 am

Mudguard wrote:Would anyone know if either of the above 91 types of fuel are both OK or, one is better to use then the other?
Cheers Mudguard...

I think you will find it pretty much depends on the age of your machine.

A few years ago (in Aus at least) they took the lead out of petrol. The lead content acted as a lubricant for the valve seats and valve guides.
To overcome the obvious problems this new lead-free fuel created, they made the aforementioned parts much harder. For the ones left behind, it was recommended to use "upper-cylinder lubricant". :lol:

The 91 and 95 refers to the octane rating I believe, so a different characteristic altogether.

E10 is the content of alcohol fuel added to mix.

Alcohol fuel requires a much higher volume of fuel to be consumed (about 4 to 6 times I believe) to create the same energy. So although it may be a bit cheaper to begin with, one will use a lot more to go the same distance.
Although no one now has a choice.

The risk with using too high a mix content percentage is that engines are tuned with petrol or 10% mix in mind and as the content of alcohol fuel increases, so does the required fuel flow, but most engines are fixed mixture control either manually or by the ECU (engine control unit ) The result is they start to run lean, heat up too much, crack heads, burn valves, burn holes in pistons, on and on.

Wouldn't be concerned with the choice you have now though if your machine is only a few years old.

by **ting_tong** » October 18, 2012, 2:35 pm

papaguido wrote:Red 91 still exist, that's all I use in my car & MB's. It's suppose to be phased out this year and replace with green 91 (gasohol), but it hasn't yet...obviously.

Posted by pattayatoday on Aug 30th, 2011 and filed under Thailand News

Bangchak in particular has been a strong promoter of alternative fuels and previously announced plans to scrap sales of pure petrol next year. The company already has withdrawn 95 petrol in favour of 95 gasohol, a blend of 5% ethanol with 95% petrol.

http://pattayatoday.net/news/thailand-n ... mp-prices/

PapaG,
please tell me where they sell RED 91 benzine?

by **bamakmak** » October 18, 2012, 3:00 pm

ting_tong wrote: please tell me where they sell RED 91 benzine?

I just filled up with RED 91 benzine yesterday at 7/11 on the Ring Road. I assume the RED has always referred to the color shown on the pump, not whatever color the fuel may be dyed.

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