Conspiracy Therories

[lepidoptra]

But I really don't think that what he's mad about Kjellsnell. No one is bashing him on this thread. I think hes mad that everyone doesn't agree with him.

Yes Jello
I think you may be right but there are others who get angry if we don't agree. I just try to treat their little outbursts with the contempt they deserve. Perhaps something to do with their lack of communication skills
cheers

[Manadon]

Hi Guys, Am I mad? Not really. Should I expect anything different from those who have nothing better to do than twist peoples words and sling mud? I wish I could help, but God gives us all a free will. So this is the legend you will leave when you are buried or burned. You should be mad about that. As for me, I have better things to do. And to let you try to pull me down, well, thats not good either. You bash everything "good" because you love the darkness. That is your choice, knock yourself out. You bashed after a kind offer, then ran to bash on here. Where is your conspiracy theories? I have offered alot here and you have bashed that. What is it with you? You started this thread for what? To bash? Get a life...or get talkin about your conspiracies. Manadon is signing off here. Going to look for intelligent conversation. Bye. I will try to find something to offer when Easter gets here. I won't forget to think of others.

[Aardvark]

See Ya

[lepidoptra]

Bye. I will try to find something to offer when Easter gets here

A nice big Easter Egg please

[Jello]

Hi Guys, Am I mad? Not really. Should I expect anything different from those who have nothing better to do than twist peoples words and sling mud? I wish I could help, but God gives us all a free will. So this is the legend you will leave when you are buried or burned. You should be mad about that. As for me, I have better things to do. And to let you try to pull me down, well, thats not good either. You bash everything "good" because you love the darkness. That is your choice, knock yourself out. You bashed after a kind offer, then ran to bash on here. Where is your conspiracy theories? I have offered alot here and you have bashed that. What is it with you? You started this thread for what? To bash? Get a life...or get talkin about your conspiracies. Manadon is signing off here. Going to look for intelligent conversation. Bye. I will try to find something to offer when Easter gets here. I won't forget to think of others.

I'm happy your not mad manadon. Thanks for your postings and do try to lighten up and have some fun once in a while!


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[Jello]

I've been looking for something convincing to back up the "agenda 21 will "destroy 2/3 of mankind" conspiracy theory. This website uses the following quotes:

"One of the things we could do about it is to change the technologies, to put out less of this pollution, to stabilize the population, and one of the principle ways of doing that is to empower and educate girls and women. You have to have ubiquitous availability of fertility management so women can choose how many children have, the spacing of the children. You have to lift child survival rates so that parents feel comfortable having small families and most important you have to educate girls and empower women. And that’s the most powerful leveraging factor, and when that happens, then the population begins to stabilize and societies begin to make better choices and more balanced choices.
- Al Gore

from a UN resolution-
"…population growth rates have been declining globally, largely as a result of expanded basic education and health care. That trend is projected to lead to a stable world population in the middle of the twenty-first century… The current decline in population growth rates must be further promoted through national and international policies that promote economic development, social development, environmental protection, and poverty eradication, particularly the further expansion of basic education, with full and equal access for girls and women, and health care, including reproductive health care, including both family planning and sexual health, consistent with the report of the International Conference on Population and Development."

So whats so bad about education, family planning and personal choice?
The author then jumps to the conclusion (with nothing to back it up) that - "there is a growing consensus among the global elite that they need to get rid of 80 to 90 percent of us".

http://endoftheamericandream.com/archiv ... on-control

These sites always refer to the Georgia Guidestones:

http://www.wired.com/science/discoverie ... rentPage=1

the message on the Georgia Guidestones reads:

1. MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE
2. GUIDE REPRODUCTION WISELY - IMPROVING FITNESS AND DIVERSITY
3. UNITE HUMANITY WITH A LIVING NEW LANGUAGE
4. RULE PASSION - FAITH - TRADITION - AND ALL THINGS WITH TEMPERED REASON
5. PROTECT PEOPLE AND NATIONS WITH FAIR LAWS AND JUST COURTS
6. LET ALL NATIONS RULE INTERNALLY RESOLVING EXTERNAL DISPUTES IN A WORLD COURT
7. AVOID PETTY LAWS AND USELESS OFFICIALS
8. BALANCE PERSONAL RIGHTS WITH SOCIAL DUTIES
9. PRIZE TRUTH - BEAUTY - LOVE- SEEKING HARMONY WITH THE INFINITE
10. BE NOT A CANCER ON THE EARTH - LEAVE ROOM FOR NATURE -

I sure I can find many monuments with idealistic inscriptions. That doesn't mean anyone is going to adhere to it. Since no one knows who had it built, the doors wide open for theories. Was it the "Illuminati" or was it just one guy with too much money and a sense of humor?


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[Aardvark]

[Quote] "there is a growing consensus among the global elite that they need to get rid of 80 to 90 percent of us"..... Wonder who will do all the Work

[Laan Yaa Mo]

Kurt Vonngegut wrote about this in one of his novels. Anyway, under the pen name of Kilgore Trout, he wrote a short story in which science had ensured that everyone on the planet could live forever. The problem, of course, was overcrowding. People shuffled along the streets much as they do on Oxford Street, London, England during the Christmas rush. In other words, it took forever to get anywhere.

Some folks grew bored with their lives, and wanted to die. So the government accommodated their wishes and allowed Howard Johnson's to build hotels where the suicidal could spend their last nights watching pornography, sports or whatever. Crematoriums were located nearby to take care of their deaths.

Even earlier, a Cantonese reformer Kang Yu-wei (he is the one who influenced the young Manchu Emperor to launch the 100 days of reform in the 1890s), wrote of a future utopia in which there would be no countries, a universal government, merit granted to inventors in the fields of science, education and technology; furthermore, people would be assigned partners for one year after which they would get new partners for the next year, and so on. Any children would be sent away to be attended to by the elderly. The dead would be cremated and their remains would be spread in nearby fields. Kang was wise enough not to spread his ideas around for fear of people thinking he was insane (this was a Confucian society after all).

[Jello]

Here's a interesting unbiased tour of the Georgia Guidestones:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIfU41BI ... re=related

enjoy

[Jello]

New World Order (conspiracy theory)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In conspiracy theory, the term New World Order or NWO refers to the emergence of a totalitarian one-world government.
The common theme in conspiracy theories about a New World Order is that a secretive power elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an authoritarian world government—which replaces sovereign nation-states—and an all-encompassing propaganda that ideologizes its establishment as the culmination of history's progress. Significant occurrences in politics and finance are speculated to be orchestrated by an unduly influential cabal operating through many front organizations. Numerous historical and current events are seen as steps in an on-going plot to achieve world domination through secret political gatherings and decision-making processes.

Prior to the early 1990s, New World Order conspiracism was limited to two American countercultures, primarily the militantly anti-government right, and secondarily fundamentalist Christians concerned with end-time emergence of the Antichrist. Skeptics, such as Michael Barkun and Chip Berlet, have observed that right-wing populist conspiracy theories about a New World Order have now not only been embraced by many seekers of stigmatized knowledge but have seeped into popular culture, thereby inaugurating an unrivaled period of people actively preparing for apocalyptic millenarian scenarios in the United States of the late 20th and early 21st centuries. These political scientists are concerned that this mass hysteria could have what they judge to be devastating effects on American political life, ranging from widespread political alienation to escalating lone-wolf terrorism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_ ... _theory%29

Sounds like a self fulfilling prophecy. The more people believe the conspiracy theories, the more the Government sets up methods to deal with domestic terrorism, thus fueling the fire of conspiracy theories.

[Jello]

From The Guardian

US base leads poll's top conspiracy theories

Area 51 is the most popular conspiracy therory to have surfaced over recent years, according to a survey to mark the release of the film The X-Files: I Want To Believe. Of 1,000 British adults, 48% are said to believe that aliens and spaceships are being investigated at the US military base, also known as Groom Lake, in Nevada. The online poll, by film company 20th Century Fox, found the second and third top conspiracy theories were the beliefs that the terrorist attacks in New York on September 11 2001 were orchestrated by the US government, and that the Apollo moon landing was a hoax.

· 1 Area 51 exists to investigate aliens (48%)

· 2 9/11 was orchestrated by the US government (38%)

· 3 Apollo landing was a hoax (35%)

· 4 Diana and Dodi were murdered (32%)

· 5 The Illuminati secret society and masons are trying to take over the world (25%)

· 6 Scientologists rule Hollywood (17% )

· 7 Barcodes are really intended to control people (7%)

· 8 Microsoft sends messages via Wingdings (6%)

· 9 US let Pearl Harbour happen (5%)

· 10 The world is run by dinosaur-like reptiles (3%)
Press Association

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/jul/31/1

It seems a few folks in the UK are believers. I gotta read more about this "The world is run by dinosaur-like reptiles" theory. Apparently David Icke has a few people convinced!

[rjj04]

The British do love their Dr Who... it's the Silurians

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... s_2010.jpg

[Frankie 1]

"The world is run by dinosaur-like reptiles"

So, this means that my ex-wife runs the world? OMG!!!

[Jello]

Reptile Conspiracy Theories
Sourced from http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4046 (podcast transcription)
The concept of reptilian beings on Earth is a surprisingly widespread conspiracy theory, in which the US government and major public companies are complicit in a vast worldwide network of underground bases housing a large population of humanoid reptilian creatures called Reptoids. They speak English and are involved in every major
government and corporate decision. They are variously said to either disguise themselves or actually shape-shift into humans, where they have public lives in positions of national importance. Some say the Reptoids are of extraterrestrial origin, and some say they are native to Earth, having developed intelligence before the primates, and have been secretly running things all along.

I first heard of reptilians when planning a trip to Mt. Shasta as a youth. Shasta is one of our fourteeners here in California. As I discovered, it's also something of a sacred hotbed for a whole range of New Age traditions. It not only has a lot of Native American spiritual history, it also figures prominently for any number of modern pagan religions. Shasta is said to be full of secret caverns, jewel encrusted tunnels, and whole subterranean civilizations peopled with all sorts of exotic races. Most notably, it's the home of the Lemurians, an ancient race whose original continent called Mu sank and now make their home inside the mountain, in the great five-level city of Telos. Lemurians, who are tall, white-cloaked beings speaking English but with a British accent, employ invisible four-foot-tall beings called Guardians to protect their city. Bigfoots are also said to populate Shasta. Among all this exotic company, Reptoids would hardly be noticed. The story goes that Reptoids use Mt. Shasta as one of the numerous entrances to their huge underground network of bases.

Reptoids are said to serve at least one very useful purpose: They are sworn enemies of the gray aliens, and may well serve to be humanity's last line of defense against this threat. Among the gray aliens' holdings provided them by the US government is a large underground base at Dulce, New Mexico. Some 18,000 grays are said to reside on level 5 of the base, and they perform terrible genetic experiments on humans on levels 6 and 7. Reptilian beings have been caught trying to acquire information about the Dulce base.

The most outspoken proponent of the conspiracy theory that reptilian beings in disguise are actually running our planet is David Ickes, whose book "The Biggest Secret" reveals information like this:

Then there are the experiences of Cathy O'Brien, the mind controlled slave of the United States government for more than 25 years... She was sexually abused as a child and as an adult by a stream of famous people named in her book. Among them were the US Presidents, Gerald Ford, Bill Clinton and, most appallingly, George Bush, a major player in the Brotherhood, as my books and others have long exposed. It was Bush, a *** and serial killer, who regularly abused and raped Cathy's daughter, Kelly O'Brien, as a toddler before her mother's courageous exposure of these staggering events forced the authorities to remove Kelly from the mind control programme known as Project Monarch.


This is a fair sample of most of Ickes' evidence that reptilian beings have taken over our government. Virtually any statement that Ickes makes is easily falsified by minimal research if not simple common sense, but since his is a conspiracy theory, any evidence against it is simply regarded as evidence proving the conspiracy. Don't laugh: Ickes sells a lot of these books. A lot of people believe this stuff.

Full transcription at: http://revolutionoftruth.blogspot.com/2 ... ories.html

Worth repeating, "Any evidence against a conspiracy theory is simply regarded as evidence proving the conspiracy", (or disinformation). So how can you argue with a believer? You can't. Anyway, this stuff is entertaining. I might even buy one of David Ickes books. Sounds like good sci-fi rather than theory.

[infowars]

After 911 I saw that the media was corrupt and was searching for answers. Many crack pots etc out there as well as DISINFORMATION. This disinformation along with alot of truth makes it difficult to sort out. I have spent thousands of hours the last few years trying to sort out the truth. Alex Jones is as close as it gets.
Alex is out there with alot of answers, focus on what he says. Just spend a quanty of time and try to swallow as much as possible. He is formualting as his knowledge grows. He does say that he doesnt go into areas of speculation. There is alot of hard evidence he gives but he knows more that he can not prove.
After awhile you will find that the truth is alot easier to believe than what the government propaganda delivered to the main stream media. The government is run by the corporations, who are run by the banks, and who are then by the bank owners. Through every level people are bought and paid for.
You cant believe because you know people who couldnt be part of this but they are compartmentalized etc. It really is all too much. We will all suffer in the next few years. THIS IS WHY YOU SEE ALEX BLOWING A GASKET. HE KNOWS THE TRUTH.
So go ahead and rip this post apart.....but in the future a post like this will probally not be allowed to be broadcast.

Well its taken this amount of time to find Alex Jones was not all I took him for. Having to revise my position. Now after reviewing "BILL HICKS" AKA Alex Jones from an earlier day I find he is more of a FEAR MONGER. Not to say that 80% of what he spouts is correct but that he is there to give MISINFORMATION when needed. This Ron Paul mess is a good example of what AJ misdirects. Also the year 2000 show was pure FEAR MONGERING.